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Umbrella
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Taiwan936 Posts
May 27 2008 23:40 GMT
#61
Turbine at full throttle.
anotak
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1537 Posts
May 27 2008 23:48 GMT
#62
They should cut the thor, yeah.
It's not very interesting of a unit, not suited to a multiplayer game. Maybe keep it for the campaign.

I hate big slow units in RTS, they are so boring and tasteless. No interesting micro possibilities at all.
dogen
Profile Joined June 2007
Belgium108 Posts
May 28 2008 00:51 GMT
#63
what's up with the vids being down
ImgGartok
Profile Joined August 2007
United States216 Posts
May 28 2008 01:44 GMT
#64
On May 21 2008 16:01 Klockan3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2008 05:00 lololol wrote:
The battlecruiser's attack now definitely looks and sounds powerfull, unlike in sc:bw. I also liked the jackals attack.

Battlecruisers do 8x8=64 damage in sc2, so yes its a lot more powerfull than before. Not just looks, now they are real combat units instead of the flying semi casters they were before.


Hmm armor upgrades will own BCs then?
ImgGartok
Profile Joined August 2007
United States216 Posts
May 28 2008 02:03 GMT
#65
On May 28 2008 08:48 anotak wrote:
They should cut the thor, yeah.
It's not very interesting of a unit, not suited to a multiplayer game. Maybe keep it for the campaign.

I hate big slow units in RTS, they are so boring and tasteless. No interesting micro possibilities at all.


Not necessarily true, in fact they tend to be more focused on micro because you don't have as many of them but they're more powerful. Though I agree the thor is uninteresting and its role as antiair just doesn't make sense. Need a cheap, agile ground unit for ground-to-air, otherwise it's just pointless since air already has more mobility.

But for example, mountain giants in war3, which are huge units, are one of the most fun units in the game. They have a taunt ability that makes nearby enemies attack it, which can really throw off enemy players if used well in the midst of a fight.
lepape
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada557 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-28 07:03:59
May 28 2008 06:22 GMT
#66
Sadly, I don't feel excited watching this video.

I already got over the fact it's in 3D but damn... the CC looks to me like a huge bunker, the supply depots look like farms from WC3 with lights. And the Thors, holy crap, what a lame unit on every aspect.

Sure I'm exagerating a bit, sure the game looks better and more fun than 99% of all RTS out there, but there's not much in that video that bring me the same feeling I've had with SC.
anotak
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1537 Posts
May 28 2008 09:51 GMT
#67
On May 28 2008 11:03 Oc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2008 08:48 anotak wrote:
They should cut the thor, yeah.
It's not very interesting of a unit, not suited to a multiplayer game. Maybe keep it for the campaign.

I hate big slow units in RTS, they are so boring and tasteless. No interesting micro possibilities at all.


Not necessarily true, in fact they tend to be more focused on micro because you don't have as many of them but they're more powerful. Though I agree the thor is uninteresting and its role as antiair just doesn't make sense. Need a cheap, agile ground unit for ground-to-air, otherwise it's just pointless since air already has more mobility.

But for example, mountain giants in war3, which are huge units, are one of the most fun units in the game. They have a taunt ability that makes nearby enemies attack it, which can really throw off enemy players if used well in the midst of a fight.

eweweewewewwwewEW
anything that takes control away from you = badbadbad
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7817 Posts
May 28 2008 11:21 GMT
#68
On May 28 2008 18:51 anotak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2008 11:03 Oc wrote:
On May 28 2008 08:48 anotak wrote:
They should cut the thor, yeah.
It's not very interesting of a unit, not suited to a multiplayer game. Maybe keep it for the campaign.

I hate big slow units in RTS, they are so boring and tasteless. No interesting micro possibilities at all.


Not necessarily true, in fact they tend to be more focused on micro because you don't have as many of them but they're more powerful. Though I agree the thor is uninteresting and its role as antiair just doesn't make sense. Need a cheap, agile ground unit for ground-to-air, otherwise it's just pointless since air already has more mobility.

But for example, mountain giants in war3, which are huge units, are one of the most fun units in the game. They have a taunt ability that makes nearby enemies attack it, which can really throw off enemy players if used well in the midst of a fight.

eweweewewewwwewEW
anything that takes control away from you = badbadbad


Mind control? Lol, I kid.
edahl
Profile Joined February 2008
Norway483 Posts
May 28 2008 14:27 GMT
#69
I really don't like the size of the Thor. It just seems out of place; like an experimental in SupCom. It might work as sort of a Goliath in size anti-air but I don't see the use for it.I don't think SC needs the super-unit factor. Especially not the over-scaled super-unit factor Blizzard seem to test out at the moment. The Siege Tank is just about the right amount of fierce in my opinion.

What's the terran blob now?
Thor: Heavy Air? Heavy Ground & Tank?
Siege Tank: Heavy Ground
Jackal: Light Ground
Viking: Medium Ground and Air?
Banshee: AoE Ground
BC: ...
I just don't get the Terran army-composition.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
May 28 2008 14:49 GMT
#70
Yea the Thor just doesnt seem to fit in there.. and whats up with the overuse of Thors and BC's in these games? so boring to watch :s
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
May 28 2008 21:35 GMT
#71
this is too fast
Resistance ain't futile
OakHill
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States168 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-28 22:57:42
May 28 2008 22:55 GMT
#72
The Thor is just so goofy looking that it's hard to take serious... I mean the collision doesn't even seem to be very good for it either, the way they all cluster together makes it look even more retarded. The Thor should be a terran melee unit in my opinion that does less DPS than ultralisks but is extremely good for soaking damage (like WC3 Mountain Giants but not as weak.. MGs do less damage than every WC3 tier 1 unit).

A silly idea I have would to make it be able to walk over smaller units like zerglings and marines but make it bigger (and less goofy of course).
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
May 29 2008 00:13 GMT
#73
SCVs ARE WHITE

The sound SUCKS ASS, serious voice actors are bunch of hill billies
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
May 29 2008 00:54 GMT
#74
why are thors so frigging huge lol T_T
Hates Fun🤔
Ghin
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States2391 Posts
May 29 2008 01:57 GMT
#75
with all those cannons i thought the thor would shoot a lot more often than it does
Legalize drugs and murder.
prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
May 29 2008 09:06 GMT
#76
I like that the banshee is female pilotted :D
Oh no
SsjAxXx0n
Profile Joined June 2007
Canada23 Posts
May 29 2008 14:48 GMT
#77
At most in any of the vids the thor is a bit clumsy. Maybe it could be smaller otherwise I don't mind it there. In terms of story meh it can fill a role.
I llawl'd when the scv's died
Hello world...I am hungry
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
June 03 2008 23:08 GMT
#78
On June 04 2008 05:59 M2 wrote:
I found it in a bulgarian site where they say that is a new video from demo game TvT. I dont follow the starcraft 2 forum carefully so my apologizes if it was posted before.

http://lifestyle.ibox.bg/news/id_13992586

p.s Savior says at the end that this is just a demo game and the win means nothing. (It was translated in bulgarian in the article) :-))

Quality might be a bit better here, having some flash problems but looked like it possibly might be =P
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
ImgGartok
Profile Joined August 2007
United States216 Posts
June 06 2008 02:49 GMT
#79
I think the speed of flying buildings is because a part of Terran macro now is switching addons since Rax and Factories can use the same addons. So if you want to start going into marine overdrive, gotta quickly swap the tech lab for the reactor.
Klockan3
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden2866 Posts
June 06 2008 06:38 GMT
#80
On May 28 2008 18:51 anotak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2008 11:03 Oc wrote:
On May 28 2008 08:48 anotak wrote:
They should cut the thor, yeah.
It's not very interesting of a unit, not suited to a multiplayer game. Maybe keep it for the campaign.

I hate big slow units in RTS, they are so boring and tasteless. No interesting micro possibilities at all.


Not necessarily true, in fact they tend to be more focused on micro because you don't have as many of them but they're more powerful. Though I agree the thor is uninteresting and its role as antiair just doesn't make sense. Need a cheap, agile ground unit for ground-to-air, otherwise it's just pointless since air already has more mobility.

But for example, mountain giants in war3, which are huge units, are one of the most fun units in the game. They have a taunt ability that makes nearby enemies attack it, which can really throw off enemy players if used well in the midst of a fight.

eweweewewewwwewEW
anything that takes control away from you = badbadbad

It does not take away control, you just have to issue another command and the order is gone. Repeating, all it do is order all nearby enemy units to attack it, it gives no durational effect so you can still order them around.

On May 28 2008 10:44 Oc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2008 16:01 Klockan3 wrote:
On May 21 2008 05:00 lololol wrote:
The battlecruiser's attack now definitely looks and sounds powerfull, unlike in sc:bw. I also liked the jackals attack.

Battlecruisers do 8x8=64 damage in sc2, so yes its a lot more powerfull than before. Not just looks, now they are real combat units instead of the flying semi casters they were before.


Hmm armor upgrades will own BCs then?

Less than they currently own carriers.
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