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d.arkive
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States843 Posts
April 10 2008 03:05 GMT
#181
The queen isn't so much of a second worker because at higher levels she seems to have a great attack. It's more like, you wouldn't want to engage her in combat because she also seems pretty fragile. She probably can't take on two consecutive marine drops or so.

On a side note, is she considered a big unit or small unit?
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O.P.
Profile Joined October 2007
Sweden109 Posts
April 11 2008 13:43 GMT
#182
The queen looks really good, for several reasons:

1. As others have mentioned, not having to waste larva for static defense. Plus, hopefully defenses can be deployed *when needed*, not because they might be needed later.

2. Easier expansion. Build a hatchery -> move queen, build defenses -> move on.

3. Tactical considerations for the enemy. When I attack a zerg base, can I expect the queen to be there, or get there soon?

The one unit limit is a game mechanic, nothing more. If it makes gameplay more interesting, keep it. I do hope it makes ZvZ games more diverse, it would be welcome. It's the most boring mirror matchup.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5830 Posts
April 11 2008 14:03 GMT
#183
Does anybody think the Queen should be able to "deep-tunnel" to Ovies dropping creep? Otherwise, in my opinion, this ability (creep drop) would be kinda useless as an offensive tool.
Famehunter
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada586 Posts
April 11 2008 15:29 GMT
#184
hell no, Ovies droping creep is really good as it is. It can be used offensively with the queen to place the defensive structures that the queen builds on the creep patches.
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maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5830 Posts
April 11 2008 19:28 GMT
#185
On April 12 2008 00:29 Famehunter wrote:
hell no, Ovies droping creep is really good as it is. It can be used offensively with the queen to place the defensive structures that the queen builds on the creep patches.


Queen is slow as shit, how on earth do you think she'll get there before she gets killed? T___________T
ATeddyBear
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Canada2843 Posts
April 11 2008 19:53 GMT
#186
On April 12 2008 04:28 maybenexttime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2008 00:29 Famehunter wrote:
hell no, Ovies droping creep is really good as it is. It can be used offensively with the queen to place the defensive structures that the queen builds on the creep patches.


Queen is slow as shit, how on earth do you think she'll get there before she gets killed? T___________T

queen can tunnel through from creep to creep
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maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5830 Posts
April 11 2008 20:34 GMT
#187
On April 12 2008 04:53 ATeddyBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2008 04:28 maybenexttime wrote:
On April 12 2008 00:29 Famehunter wrote:
hell no, Ovies droping creep is really good as it is. It can be used offensively with the queen to place the defensive structures that the queen builds on the creep patches.


Queen is slow as shit, how on earth do you think she'll get there before she gets killed? T___________T

queen can tunnel through from creep to creep


No, from building to building, and that's a huge difference.
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
April 11 2008 21:03 GMT
#188
On April 12 2008 04:28 maybenexttime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2008 00:29 Famehunter wrote:
hell no, Ovies droping creep is really good as it is. It can be used offensively with the queen to place the defensive structures that the queen builds on the creep patches.


Queen is slow as shit, how on earth do you think she'll get there before she gets killed? T___________T
She is as fast and about as strong as a single zealot. And people do use zealots offensively you know

Actually, in one of the SC2 ZvP videos (check the video thread) the guy queen rushes and she gets there just a little bit after the zerglings. If there were an overlord around (with creep upgrade?) he could very well have cannon rushed.
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SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5468 Posts
April 12 2008 00:17 GMT
#189
I think the overlord upgrade is Hive tech though.
caution.slip
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States775 Posts
April 14 2008 23:51 GMT
#190
On April 12 2008 05:34 maybenexttime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2008 04:53 ATeddyBear wrote:
On April 12 2008 04:28 maybenexttime wrote:
On April 12 2008 00:29 Famehunter wrote:
hell no, Ovies droping creep is really good as it is. It can be used offensively with the queen to place the defensive structures that the queen builds on the creep patches.


Queen is slow as shit, how on earth do you think she'll get there before she gets killed? T___________T

queen can tunnel through from creep to creep


No, from building to building, and that's a huge difference.



Actually i think its from anywhere to building
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