EPTLife's Huge Gambling Spree After IEM Katowice 2014 - Page 5
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Akio
Finland1838 Posts
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jy_9876543210
265 Posts
On March 27 2024 16:08 jinjin5000 wrote: k, reynor treated everyone to few shots and that was fair chunk of his winnings. That's going to hurt results for sure that $5000 8 way split for dinners si pretty mcuh matchfixing for sure!!! Did they know, or expect, that Reynor was going to share that with them before the games? If not, it's irrelevant, stop mentioning it. If so, is that a tradition of SC2 tournaments? To share your prize with your opponents, and all players agree on that? If so, then this is indeed terrible. | ||
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jinjin5000
United States1469 Posts
On March 27 2024 17:34 jy_9876543210 wrote: Did they know, or expect, that Reynor was going to share that with them before the games? If not, it's irrelevant, stop mentioning it. If so, is that a tradition of SC2 tournaments? To share your prize with your opponents, and all players agree on that? If so, then this is indeed terrible. yea group of friends agree that winner treat others to dinner/show before is same scale as matchfixing completely ridiculous statements and deluded from here. people somehow equating getting the winner friend to treating everyone for the day at hang out at afterparty/event is somehow worse than matchfixing is completely out of depth and honestly baffled by how you can even go to that conclusion. As for the IEM event, Oz figured that there was maybe an agreement involved before to split since all or nothing was way too take all or leave it but there wasn't anything like that since both players were 100% confident in their ability to win. | ||
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jy_9876543210
265 Posts
On March 27 2024 17:40 jinjin5000 wrote: yea group of friends agree that winner treat others to dinner/show before is same scale as matchfixing completely ridiculous statements and deluded from here. people somehow equating getting the winner friend to treating everyone for the day at hang out at afterparty/event is somehow worse than matchfixing is completely out of depth and honestly baffled by how you can even go to that conclusion. As for the IEM event, Oz figured that there was maybe an agreement involved before to split since all or nothing was way too take all or leave it but there wasn't anything like that since both players were 100% confident in their ability to win. Whatever. It just means there's no need to take tournaments too seriously. It's a show after all. Fixed or not - does it matter if you don't know? As long as you believe that they're trying their best, what's the difference? | ||
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geokilla
Canada8244 Posts
Match fixing and betting will always be part of sports whether you like it or not. You guys need to accept it. A sport isn't going to die unless it wasn't successful to begin with. In my opinion, SC2 has been very successful and the fact we still have tournaments today, however small they are compared to 5 or 10 years ago, we should be happy the game is still around and we have players competing at such a high level. | ||
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jinjin5000
United States1469 Posts
On March 28 2024 12:33 geokilla wrote: I find it amusing people on this board are saying we can't compare match fixing in SC2 (or e-sports) to match fixing in real sports (like NBA). We have teams, like my Toronto Raptors, playing to lose. We have players literally betting on games and giving betting tips online. Players intentionally playing like crap and then suddenly playing amazing once they're on a new team. NBA actively promoting sports betting throughout the match. Heck the NBA was investigated by the FBI for match fixing and the investigation fell through because the Commissioner caught wind of the investigation and took matters into his own hands. The goal posts just keeps on moving with you guys here. Match fixing and betting will always be part of sports whether you like it or not. You guys need to accept it. A sport isn't going to die unless it wasn't successful to begin with. In my opinion, SC2 has been very successful and the fact we still have tournaments today, however small they are compared to 5 or 10 years ago, we should be happy the game is still around and we have players competing at such a high level. Leagues like NBA and other traditional sports are already well established while esports like StarCraft are relatively new and niche that is trying to gain its legitimacy through multiple obstacles (see: boxer needing to justify why gaming isn't evil to the public live on national morning TV show in early 2000s). that ones eng subbed And just after it shook off those allegations from people trying to lower its legitimacy and all the people worked to lay the groundwork, it gets hit with huge matchfixing/gambling scandal that's universally looked down upon and completely smashed the foundations? You are not comparing the same thing here without any regards to the context. and people are comparing this to group of friends who all knew each other and agreeing the winner treats others to dinner/afterparty. Or case like in IEM where it was all-or-nothing (where it was just Oz thinking it might be something liek that, not that it happened as both sides were 100% confident in their ability). They didn't agree for split to be even or anything, they won, winner treated their buddies and friends and all hung out in party together after. Absolute insanity here. | ||
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