I wish they took the time to make map preview posts like they did in the past. This would clear up a lot of the anxiety/limbo surrounding map rotations. I imagine it can't take that long, just some copying and pasting, maybe rendering map images. Nothing that couldn't be done in 30 minutes max.

Aeceus

United Kingdom1278 Posts

July 19 2021 14:57 GMT

Maybe they'll add Bamboozle instead of Romanticide, not sure.

Andi_Goldberger

Germany1608 Posts

July 19 2021 21:05 GMT

hopefully they fix something up before EPT fall.. another 3 months of this mappool would be tiresome

Phanekim

United States777 Posts

July 19 2021 23:00 GMT

#10

On July 20 2021 06:05 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
hopefully they fix something up before EPT fall.. another 3 months of this mappool would be tiresome

Imagine nearly a year of the same team game maps.

Whats worse is they will probably get rid of some good map in 2s like emerald city because its the oldest even though its the most popular.

If they just outsourced it to the community, this would be settled in 2 minutes.

Andi_Goldberger

Germany1608 Posts

July 20 2021 15:56 GMT

#11

On July 20 2021 08:00 Phanekim wrote:

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I know the misery, I play a lot of team games. No one watches team games tho and ESL prob only cares about 1v1 so I am not even asking for that

NeuralNet88

22 Posts

July 20 2021 18:37 GMT

#12

New season, no new maps. To be expected I suppose.

I would assume this means that if they wait until the next season to release new maps, all of the current maps will be replaced with new ones. So seven new maps. Only have to wait 3 more months or so....

Ben...

Canada3485 Posts

July 21 2021 03:29 GMT

#13

On July 21 2021 03:37 NeuralNet88 wrote:
New season, no new maps. To be expected I suppose.

I would assume this means that if they wait until the next season to release new maps, all of the current maps will be replaced with new ones. So seven new maps. Only have to wait 3 more months or so....

That's unfortunate. I sure hope there's all new maps next time around. This current set is very stale.

digmouse

China6330 Posts

July 21 2021 05:48 GMT

#14

TLMC exists for that but it probably will take a while to evaluate the winning maps for ladder and competitive play.

NeuralNet88

22 Posts

July 21 2021 06:34 GMT

#15

It's always taken a couple of months to go through the maps and pick which ones are most suitable for ladder play in the eyes of Blizzard, and in this case I'm assuming, the ESL.

The top five maps of the contest don't always make it to the ladder the first season they are able either. A lot of the time maps that finished further down the voting list are selected. Last season for example, the three new maps that were introduced were all in the top 5 of the previous TLMC, which was about a year or so after the contest was held.

ReachTheSky

United States3294 Posts

July 21 2021 06:37 GMT

#16

On July 21 2021 14:48 digmouse wrote:
TLMC exists for that but it probably will take a while to evaluate the winning maps for ladder and competitive play.

Wasn't the whole point of TLMC to evaluate what maps would be suitable for ladder and competitive play?

Legan

Finland560 Posts

July 21 2021 08:50 GMT

#17

If they are not going to use the 5 maps left from TLMC14, then it will take probably a few weeks at least to have TLMC15 maps QA and selected from. This is also something totally new for ESL or whoever is doing the selection process, so it understandable that it will take some time. Also TLMC finalists aren't' always the best maps and some show their issues early in the test tournament. Public voting is even more questionable in choosing the best map. For example Purity and Industry won but was heavily vetoed and lasted only one season on ladder.

Antimony2333

2 Posts

July 21 2021 08:54 GMT

#18

What is Blizzard really evaluating on?

Last season, after months of evaluation, map like Beckett where Protoss and Zerg stand no chance against Terran early aggression made it to the ladder. Terran has 60 win rate on that map. I don't think it needs more than 5 days to pick maps at least more balanced than that.

Blizz is just reluctant.

Andi_Goldberger

Germany1608 Posts

July 21 2021 11:19 GMT

#19

So the maps left from TLMC14 are:
Ecostation (pretty big macro map)
Old Forgotten Temple (rush map)
Bamboozle (macro map)
Impostor (interesting map with a kind of crevasse lined with accelerator zones in the middle)
Hard Rain (modern version of Heavy Rain, a HOTS blink era map, pretty much a standard map although it has 2 golds)

I honestly think all of these could be put into ladder instantly. Bamboozle even has a Ladder Edition already. I could even surrender with F10+N on all of them, which I cant on every current ladder map *ahem*. None of them had FPS issues for me, so they perform alright (Impostor even performed better than most of the current ladder maps). Please please please ESL?

Legan

Finland560 Posts

July 21 2021 12:49 GMT

#20

On July 21 2021 20:19 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
So the maps left from TLMC14 are:
Ecostation (pretty big macro map)
Old Forgotten Temple (rush map)
Bamboozle (macro map)
Impostor (interesting map with a kind of crevasse lined with accelerator zones in the middle)
Hard Rain (modern version of Heavy Rain, a HOTS blink era map, pretty much a standard map although it has 2 golds)

I honestly think all of these could be put into ladder instantly. Bamboozle even has a Ladder Edition already. I could even surrender with F10+N on all of them, which I cant on every current ladder map *ahem*. None of them had FPS issues for me, so they perform alright (Impostor even performed better than most of the current ladder maps). Please please please ESL?

You would have to at least watch the games on the maps from TLMC14 map test tournament before anything can really be said. Selection is hard if you are someone new that has not been involved with SC2 before. Also for performance you need to remember what are the minimum requirements for SC2. Requirements use hardware from 2005-2006.