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Europe at IEM Katowice 2021 - The Big Three

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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
February 17 2021 08:17 GMT
#3
While Clem's progress has been remarkable, he still doesn't have an international premier victory, so that's what he'll be looking for this Katowice. Until then he may be a member of the triumvirate but he's still only the Lepidus to Serral and Reynor's Marc Anthony and Octavian.

And on the topic of Latin the expression would usually be "primus inter pares" not "princeps inter pares" (though I don't think that Reynor actually had a better year than Serral. Sure he edged out Serral in premiers by virtue of a couple European events, but Serral did better on the international circuit especially recently with 2nd places in TSL6 and Last Chance).
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
February 17 2021 08:20 GMT
#4
Serral and Reynor obviously will get out of the group. Serral and Dark are favorites for top spot in B. In C, I would actually favor both Trap and Stats over Reynor but it can play out any way.
As for A, if Maru wont be injured then Clem wont get out. TY/Maru still on another level + Solar and Showtime are very tough opposition as well.
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2217 Posts
February 17 2021 08:28 GMT
#5
Still hard to believe how strong the foreigners are now , makes for a much more exciting scene
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TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
February 17 2021 08:30 GMT
#6
On February 17 2021 17:17 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
While Clem's progress has been remarkable, he still doesn't have an international premier victory, so that's what he'll be looking for this Katowice. Until then he may be a member of the triumvirate but he's still only the Lepidus to Serral and Reynor's Marc Anthony and Octavian.

And on the topic of Latin the expression would usually be "primus inter pares" not "princeps inter pares" (though I don't think that Reynor actually had a better year than Serral. Sure he edged out Serral in premiers by virtue of a couple European events, but Serral did better on the international circuit especially recently with 2nd places in TSL6 and Last Chance).


Oh boy, getting that phrase mixed up is truly embarrassing for me - fixed now, thank you!
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33559 Posts
February 17 2021 08:41 GMT
#7
What am I supposed to takeaway from the fact that the narrative is more positive/negative in reverse order of EPT points earned between Clem, Reynor, and Serral ?
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TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
February 17 2021 08:50 GMT
#8
On February 17 2021 17:41 Waxangel wrote:
What am I supposed to takeaway from the fact that the narrative is more positive/negative in reverse order of EPT points earned between Clem, Reynor, and Serral ?

The only honourable way to earn EPT points is winning them in the Big Gabe Weekly, so clearly Clem > Reynor > Serral is the only sensible way to structure this narrative.
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TheManNervoso
Profile Joined January 2021
1 Post
February 17 2021 12:13 GMT
#9
Trap ?
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
February 17 2021 13:05 GMT
#10
On February 17 2021 21:13 TheManNervoso wrote:
Trap ?

Not European the last time I checked.
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dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
February 17 2021 13:39 GMT
#11
Clem's group is pretty awful for him, there are no "safe" wins in it for him and someone like Byun could come out of the open bracket into group A. Kind of sad, in any other group I think he would have had an okay chance. Still, injured Maru might give him a chance.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7089 Posts
February 17 2021 13:56 GMT
#12
Showtime will play like a god and top group A. Heard it here first guys :D
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12909 Posts
February 17 2021 14:23 GMT
#13
On February 17 2021 17:41 Waxangel wrote:
What am I supposed to takeaway from the fact that the narrative is more positive/negative in reverse order of EPT points earned between Clem, Reynor, and Serral ?

That Serral was so dominant in 2018, and to a lesser extent in 2019, that barely beating Reynor in EPT points while losing several high stakes matchs versus Clem is an obvious downgrade. Reynor didn't progress as much as expected while Clem ascended the most compared to the previous years.

So if we think of it as trends/progression instead of flat EPT points rankings, it's perfectly logical
WriterMaru
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-17 16:52:35
February 17 2021 16:51 GMT
#14
Serral is in the easiest group to get top 3 in but the fight for 1st will be very competitive. Clem is in a super hard group. And Reynor's form this year so far makes it seem like he's got a fight on his hands to get to top 3.
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Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-17 17:44:29
February 17 2021 17:43 GMT
#15
On February 17 2021 17:20 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Serral and Reynor obviously will get out of the group. Serral and Dark are favorites for top spot in B. In C, I would actually favor both Trap and Stats over Reynor but it can play out any way.
As for A, if Maru wont be injured then Clem wont get out. TY/Maru still on another level + Solar and Showtime are very tough opposition as well.


Reynor is not as clear cut as it seems, imo. I‘ve seen him losing games he shouldn‘t lose on paper quite a few times in the past few months. Or at least more than before. Which does not mean he performed poorly, but he was not as untouchable in matches he was supposed to win as before.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 18 2021 17:46 GMT
#16
Great write up, I think Serral will give all in got to arrive prepared at Katowice, he really is in a perilous situation. (well considering he's Serral)
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VamosSC
Profile Joined June 2018
21 Posts
February 19 2021 01:51 GMT
#17
Beautifully written, I would like to see a European Toss rise up some day! MaxPAx?
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26265 Posts
February 24 2021 00:48 GMT
#18
Fantastic write up folks, interested to see what Reynor brings tomorrow, the one unknown quantity of the big 3. Clem faded a bit after a really strong start, but he could still hit top gear and Serral progressed pretty serenely although methinks he’s going to want someone else to take Dark out if he’s to take home the title
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ExpatRights
Profile Joined February 2021
53 Posts
February 24 2021 05:45 GMT
#19
so basically, the Europeans still only win against each other and that makes them relevant somehow?
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33559 Posts
March 01 2021 01:55 GMT
#20
Reynor tasted supremacy in the European theater in 2020, and for a hot second during the fall, he looked like the best player in the world. On paper, you could argue that Reynor was clearly the best European player of 2020, winning more premier titles than Serral and Clem combined while putting up a winning record against both of them. However, despite his concrete achievements, Reynor could not overcome the intangible specter of Serral's reputation. Serral isn't the only one cursed by his 2018 season—it also gives his potential successors like Reynor an impossible standard to live up to.

Instead, Reynor for one year became primus inter pares—first among equals. As such, his expectations for IEM Katowice will again be high and there can only be one goal in his mind: finally win the super-major title denied to him in 2019 and take what he must now regard as his rightful place in history at the very top of the globe.


whoops not so impossible after all
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onPHYRE
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria923 Posts
March 01 2021 03:34 GMT
#21
On February 24 2021 14:45 ExpatRights wrote:
so basically, the Europeans still only win against each other and that makes them relevant somehow?


I want to say this aged like milk.. but it wasn’t even true before this tournament. 2/10 troll attempt.
Livin' this life like it was written.
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2754 Posts
March 01 2021 10:22 GMT
#22
Oh I missed this article, that was brillant thanks !
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