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My take on the matter:
A) Allowing a pause is a favour.
B) Pausing without writing anything is improper.
C) Unpausing immediately (not waiting for any chat from the one who paused the game) is strange behaviour. I don't understand why people do this. This thread has given a lot of input for various reasons, but I cannot see how those reasons justify the behaviour. "You are stealing my time" argument is the most odd one. Is it better to spend a few minutes to play vs AFK than to wait 10 seconds to know why the game is paused? Is playing vs AFK something positive? "You should have sorted things out ahead of time and I am in a rush" is a variant of stealing time. Games can go long. If you are in such a rush that seconds matter, how would you deal with a game that goes into ultra late game? No player that has unpaused my games have ever left a 30 minute game early. Does this mean that I never faced anyone with limited time to play?
D) If the pause is allowed, don't resume the game without the consent of the opponent. That is BM.
E) My personal use of pause is very urgent. Recently it has been because of kittens. I have started playing while they sleep and they wake up when I am playing.
+ Show Spoiler +Recent reasons for me pausing are + Show Spoiler +Kittens being hungry takes about 40s to take care of. If it isn't cared for I cannot play. They walk on the keyboard to get my attention. Sleepy cat moved to sleep on the mouse cord. One cat moved from my lap to settle in on the keyboard. The kitten pressed the pause button when it was walking toward the window. I heard a crash. Went to investigate. 2 pauses were similar and my short investigation of these cases lead me to leave the game. One cat threw up, and one cat had poop stuck to their leg and spread it over the floor meowing all the while.
F) There shouldn't be any changes done to how pauses work. 3 pauses is seldom needed in game. Any more would just irritate your opponent. There are people that uses pauses to BM which means that setting a minimum time for pauses would help them BM more. Requiring consent to activate the pause would cost time for the pausing player which reduces the fairness of the game. A countdown after the pause would help BM with the extra time without doing anything when courteous player are unpausing since they follow D).
User has been warned for posting 7 spoilers about kittens and not one of them contained an adorable picture of them.
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Sorry OP but I agree with the majority, no dice.
This game is all about complete focus and youre ruining it. They have no idea how long youll be and tbf owe you nothing.
I think it depends on the game state.
If im ahead and u pause, maybe i will wait a bit.
Im in behind and u pause, i take opportunity.
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the truth is that being unable to move the screen during a pause triggers my claustrophobia. dont trigger me plz
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On November 23 2020 23:19 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2020 20:22 Luolis wrote:On November 23 2020 19:18 MockHamill wrote:
I have managed to play the game without pausing once for 10 years. If something important comes up I just GG and leave without wasting my opponents time.
This thread has inspired me to change how I handle people that pauses. From now on when someone pauses I will just randomly unpause after 10-15 seconds without saying anything.
I suggest other people do the same. This is the best soloution to handle people that pauses, how else will they learn?
Well atleast you are giving evidence for my hypothesis "people who unpause are bad people". ) What is the threshold for unpausing where bad becomes good? 5 minutes? 10 minutes? 30 minutes? Never? And I am bad, but at least I don't try to hide it like all the well mannered players who then write obscenities at me before they quit the game.
A well mannered player goes the extra mile and leaves when the opponent asks for a pause
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On November 23 2020 06:42 nojok wrote:
No one is mentionning the state of the game in their decision process? Like are you seriously expecting me to pause during your canon rush or turtling game? If it's a good game, surely I can wait a bit to play the end of it.
Fact is OP seems to have a lot of opponents unpausing, is he turtling or cheesing?
I'm just playing standard lol. If the phone rings or the door bell goes off, I have to get it. Before I even get the chance to explain why the game is paused after I type "pp", they resume the game. At least give me 10 seconds?
I've been playing more over the weekend and luckily no BM pause-resume situations. Maybe it was just a bad streak.
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When Game is Going, Opponent Should Not Pause
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On November 24 2020 04:14 NonY wrote:
the truth is that being unable to move the screen during a pause triggers my claustrophobia. dont trigger me plz
Agreed. Also there's no warning for unpausing. Not even a sound. Before I had 2 monitors this was a true pain. But we have double countdown for a ladder game :D (once in the menu, once in the game itself)
At least let me check the supply, what's building, select buildings, move camera, check workers etc.
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On November 24 2020 20:54 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2020 04:14 NonY wrote:
the truth is that being unable to move the screen during a pause triggers my claustrophobia. dont trigger me plz Agreed. Also there's no warning for unpausing. Not even a sound. Before I had 2 monitors this was a true pain. But we have double countdown for a ladder game :D (once in the menu, once in the game itself) At least let me check the supply, what's building, select buildings, move camera, check workers etc.
Would your stress be relieved if carbot videos played during pauses?
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On November 24 2020 22:38 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2020 20:54 deacon.frost wrote:On November 24 2020 04:14 NonY wrote:
the truth is that being unable to move the screen during a pause triggers my claustrophobia. dont trigger me plz Agreed. Also there's no warning for unpausing. Not even a sound. Before I had 2 monitors this was a true pain. But we have double countdown for a ladder game :D (once in the menu, once in the game itself) At least let me check the supply, what's building, select buildings, move camera, check workers etc. Would your stress be relieved if carbot videos played during pauses?
What do you think I do when the game is pauseD?  I wouldnt'have to alt tab then.
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On November 24 2020 22:38 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2020 20:54 deacon.frost wrote:On November 24 2020 04:14 NonY wrote:
the truth is that being unable to move the screen during a pause triggers my claustrophobia. dont trigger me plz Agreed. Also there's no warning for unpausing. Not even a sound. Before I had 2 monitors this was a true pain. But we have double countdown for a ladder game :D (once in the menu, once in the game itself) At least let me check the supply, what's building, select buildings, move camera, check workers etc. Would your stress be relieved if carbot videos played during pauses?
Or some cute kitten videos <3
Player A: pp
A pauses game
Player A: Doorbell, 10 sec
Player B: sure
Blizz plays kitten vid
Player A: re. Gogo?
Player B: Nah wait. Just one more vid
3 hours later
Player B: Have you seen the one where the white kitten fits in this super small box?
Player A: That was cute but have you seen the one where the black kitten jumps on the dudes face and then fells asleep?
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On November 24 2020 04:14 NonY wrote:
the truth is that being unable to move the screen during a pause triggers my claustrophobia. dont trigger me plz
lol, the king says so! Boys, deal with your lose. 
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On November 24 2020 23:53 Harris1st wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2020 22:38 BisuDagger wrote:On November 24 2020 20:54 deacon.frost wrote:On November 24 2020 04:14 NonY wrote:
the truth is that being unable to move the screen during a pause triggers my claustrophobia. dont trigger me plz Agreed. Also there's no warning for unpausing. Not even a sound. Before I had 2 monitors this was a true pain. But we have double countdown for a ladder game :D (once in the menu, once in the game itself) At least let me check the supply, what's building, select buildings, move camera, check workers etc. Would your stress be relieved if carbot videos played during pauses? Or some cute kitten videos <3 Player A: pp A pauses game Player A: Doorbell, 10 sec Player B: sure Blizz plays kitten vid Player A: re. Gogo? Player B: Nah wait. Just one more vid 3 hours later Player B: Have you seen the one where the white kitten fits in this super small box? Player A: That was cute but have you seen the one where the black kitten jumps on the dudes face and then fells asleep?
Me: Where's my cat achievement plus cat skin, so we can play the cutie cat war game.
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I don't wanna live in a world where my BM opponent pauses the game everytime before he quits and I cant resume it, no thanks.
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On November 24 2020 23:53 Harris1st wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2020 22:38 BisuDagger wrote:On November 24 2020 20:54 deacon.frost wrote:On November 24 2020 04:14 NonY wrote:
the truth is that being unable to move the screen during a pause triggers my claustrophobia. dont trigger me plz Agreed. Also there's no warning for unpausing. Not even a sound. Before I had 2 monitors this was a true pain. But we have double countdown for a ladder game :D (once in the menu, once in the game itself) At least let me check the supply, what's building, select buildings, move camera, check workers etc. Would your stress be relieved if carbot videos played during pauses? Or some cute kitten videos <3 Player A: pp A pauses game Player A: Doorbell, 10 sec Player B: sure Blizz plays kitten vid Player A: re. Gogo? Player B: Nah wait. Just one more vid 3 hours later Player B: Have you seen the one where the white kitten fits in this super small box? Player A: That was cute but have you seen the one where the black kitten jumps on the dudes face and then fells asleep?
No kittens, or I unpause every pause immediatelly.
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On November 25 2020 00:28 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2020 23:53 Harris1st wrote:On November 24 2020 22:38 BisuDagger wrote:On November 24 2020 20:54 deacon.frost wrote:On November 24 2020 04:14 NonY wrote:
the truth is that being unable to move the screen during a pause triggers my claustrophobia. dont trigger me plz Agreed. Also there's no warning for unpausing. Not even a sound. Before I had 2 monitors this was a true pain. But we have double countdown for a ladder game :D (once in the menu, once in the game itself) At least let me check the supply, what's building, select buildings, move camera, check workers etc. Would your stress be relieved if carbot videos played during pauses? Or some cute kitten videos <3 Player A: pp A pauses game Player A: Doorbell, 10 sec Player B: sure Blizz plays kitten vid Player A: re. Gogo? Player B: Nah wait. Just one more vid 3 hours later Player B: Have you seen the one where the white kitten fits in this super small box? Player A: That was cute but have you seen the one where the black kitten jumps on the dudes face and then fells asleep? No kittens, or I unpause every pause immediatelly.
Are you even human? *insert confused kitten gif*
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I think this could be solved with some kind of simple system. For example you could have pool of seconds that are used when you pause. During these seconds your opponent can not resume. At start of the game you have 12 seconds and after every minute you get 6 seconds. Pool also would have maximum of 2 minutes, that is reached after 18 minutes. To fix the possible abuse of pausing we have now multiple parameters that can be tweaked as punishment. For example you can lower the maximum and how fast the seconds are earned or even prevent player pausing, if player is noticed to abuse pausing. It should also be quite easy to detect, if a reason for pause is given, and if no attempt to give a reason is made, opponent could be allowed to resume after a few seconds regardless of the pool. Also if opponent left the game after pausing it could easily allow player to resume right after without needing to wait.
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I honestly think Blizzard should remove pause.
If something comes up IRL I just leave the game and I expect my opponent to do the same.
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On November 25 2020 03:41 BronzeKnee wrote:
I honestly think Blizzard should remove pause.
If something comes up IRL I just leave the game and I expect my opponent to do the same.
Not everything is 1v1 against randos. It is a nice feature to have if you are playing with friends and need to pause to pay for the three cups of ramen you ordered through uber eats.
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I hope you guys realize they halt starcraft development, so most of the devs and the teams are gone, for something that's not essential like this? nah, good reason or not, you are not getting it anyway.
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On November 25 2020 05:38 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote:
I hope you guys realize they halt starcraft development, so most of the devs and the teams are gone, for something that's not essential like this? nah, good reason or not, you are not getting it anyway.
Not entirely correct. You're confusing the discontinuation of new paid for content (eg: Warchests and Co-op commanders) with a complete stop to development. Bug fixes, ladder maps, and possible balance changes are still on the table. Granted, going forward, we'll see much less and less significant patching, but they haven't exactly moved all SC2 staff onto something else. Either way, we will (99.9%) certainly not see any changes to the pause mechanic. Remember the OP: this is a rant more than anything.
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