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When Game Is Paused, Opponent Should Not Resume

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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8240 Posts
November 21 2020 22:31 GMT
#1
Rant more than anything, but if a ladder game is paused, the opponent should not be able to resume for at least a minute. I've had a few games these past few days where I had to pause the game to answer a phone call or whatever and the opponent just resumes, causing me to lose. Yeah it's just a game, but still. Blizzard should make it so there's at least a minute before the opponent can resume the game, in case the person that paused it is just trolling and being BM.
yubo56
Profile Joined May 2014
688 Posts
November 21 2020 22:41 GMT
#2
It makes some sense, but it makes pause-quit BMers much more annoying. I think maybe something shorter like 30 seconds, and you lose all your remaining pauses, might be doable (otherwise, you have 3 pauses, and each one needs a minute for the opponent, which means 3 minutes' delay before the opponent can claim victory if they meet BM)

Some say that if something urgent comes up, you should just leave the game, since it's just a ladder game anyway, and it's somewhat selfish to force others to wait for you if they don't want. I think giving a small delay like 30 seconds makes sense in this context as well, it should give enough time for shorter errands or to give an explanation if it's something long + urgent, to let the opponent decide whether to wait or not.

In the end though, waiting when the opponent pauses is only courtesy, and it's impossible to mandate courtesy
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.gypsy
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada689 Posts
November 21 2020 22:41 GMT
#3
LOL this take is insane
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-21 22:56:47
November 21 2020 22:55 GMT
#4
Sure, YOUR pause is importnat. But what about the other person who may not have the time for your pause? Have you thought about them as well? While your reason for a pause may be a good one, their unpausing may have a reason as well. For sure mine do.
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InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
November 21 2020 23:30 GMT
#5
Allowing your opponent to pause is a curtesy, it's not required.

If you need to step away, you need to accept and come to terms with the possibility your opponent doesn't want to wait for you.
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NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1599 Posts
November 21 2020 23:48 GMT
#6
If you don't have time to play a game it shouldn't be on anyone else to give you time. If they choose to let you take a break that is fine, but nobody should have their time wasted just because you didn't manage your time properly. Take the L and move on it is just a game.
Comedy
Profile Joined March 2016
456 Posts
November 21 2020 23:54 GMT
#7
On November 22 2020 07:31 geokilla wrote:
Rant more than anything, but if a ladder game is paused, the opponent should not be able to resume for at least a minute. I've had a few games these past few days where I had to pause the game to answer a phone call or whatever and the opponent just resumes, causing me to lose. Yeah it's just a game, but still. Blizzard should make it so there's at least a minute before the opponent can resume the game, in case the person that paused it is just trolling and being BM.


are your phone calls so important that you have to take them? just call back or take the loss dude
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-22 00:01:35
November 22 2020 00:01 GMT
#8
Pausing is disrespectful of your opponent's time. If you can't deal with the consequences of your opponent unpausing, don't play.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
November 22 2020 00:01 GMT
#9
100% no. People shouldn't have to wait on you, and people could obviously abuse this by being BM.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25665 Posts
November 22 2020 00:13 GMT
#10
On November 22 2020 07:31 geokilla wrote:
Rant more than anything, but if a ladder game is paused, the opponent should not be able to resume for at least a minute. I've had a few games these past few days where I had to pause the game to answer a phone call or whatever and the opponent just resumes, causing me to lose. Yeah it's just a game, but still. Blizzard should make it so there's at least a minute before the opponent can resume the game, in case the person that paused it is just trolling and being BM.

Would be abused so fucking hardcore if it was a feature.

I shall attempt to define Wombat’s Comprehensive and Completely Definitive Pause Etiquette.

The pauser should say pp or whatever, a short reason and timeframe such as ‘gotta get the door, 2 mins plz’. If not with the immediate request, then once the pause is granted.

If the pauser stretches over a reasonable period as to the agreed pause it’s sweet to unpause as the contract has been broken.

On the other side of the aisle there is a special place reserved in hell for folks who come back and resume without messaging. Once actually lost a game when I was feeling generous and the guy took approximately 14 years to return and they unpaused when I was tabbed out.

Being more serious I mean I guess it’s a personal thing. I think pausing for a few mins is completely reasonable, and should just be a convention like gging that’s just largely done.
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Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
November 22 2020 00:21 GMT
#11
Ridiculous, it is totally ok to resume inmediatly even if there is no special reason. If you log in to play a game, you are supposed to take care of things at your end. Btw you lost because you decided to take a call while playing not because your opponent forced you to play.
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Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
November 22 2020 00:32 GMT
#12
I do exptect others to let me pause if I need to do something urgent, just because most players have time and are courtous. Sometimes I forgot my drink in the living room, other times I need to a fix an issue in the settings. Almost always my opponent lets me fix it 9/10. If the person doesn't either he is a douche or he doesn't have the time/patience to wait for me. Its not worth it for me to explore the reason he unpause, its his right, just take the disadvantage/loss and move on.

I clicked play it is my responsiblity that I can devote 30 minutes totally to starcraft 2, if I am waiting for an important call I needed to take I could either A) dont play or B) play knowing I will probably take a loss if I get the call.

If the opponent lets me pause he is being nice and respectful, this idea is similar to locking the game and refusing to let a player leave unless he GGs. Forced courteousness
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404AlphaSquad
Profile Joined October 2011
839 Posts
November 22 2020 00:32 GMT
#13
If an opponent allows you to pause, they are being polite.

If they dont allow you to pause and immediately restart the after you pause, tough luck, but you do not get to decide that your time is more important than theirs.
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SC-Shield
Profile Joined December 2018
Bulgaria831 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-22 00:34:50
November 22 2020 00:33 GMT
#14
All of concerns here could be resolved with some programming logic. Let player pause for a minute every once in a while (e.g. 1 in 20 games or more games). Otherwise, the feature isn't active. That solves the BM problem and people being careless with time. The other side "loses" only a minute. If someone thinks one minute is crucial, they shouldn't be playing games anyway. Also, CS: GO lets teams have 1 pause per half. In the worst case, that's 4 pauses of 1 min or so for up to 32 rounds.
Philippe
Profile Joined October 2020
351 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-22 00:47:34
November 22 2020 00:46 GMT
#15
Not everybody has the same level of etiquette. Not on the opponent to adapt. The only thing that's important is whether something is illegal or not.
I'm just a cynical video game enjoyer who is probably unfazed by many business dealings many would find utterly distasteful, while not strictly illegal by the law as seen in a general sense in the world.
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8240 Posts
November 22 2020 01:46 GMT
#16
On November 22 2020 08:54 Comedy wrote:
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On November 22 2020 07:31 geokilla wrote:
Rant more than anything, but if a ladder game is paused, the opponent should not be able to resume for at least a minute. I've had a few games these past few days where I had to pause the game to answer a phone call or whatever and the opponent just resumes, causing me to lose. Yeah it's just a game, but still. Blizzard should make it so there's at least a minute before the opponent can resume the game, in case the person that paused it is just trolling and being BM.


are your phone calls so important that you have to take them? just call back or take the loss dude

I literally pause, and before I can even answer it to see who it is, the game is resumed. If it was a long phone call then yeah it's understandable. But at least give me 5s to type out "phone" man.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
November 22 2020 01:49 GMT
#17
If they don't type a "pp" or similar before/shortly after, you can resume in a matter of seconds with no issue.

The chat is the politeness of requesting a favor of a pause. And it's just a ladder game; you can just resign and queue for the next if it's gonna take you a bit.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 22 2020 01:50 GMT
#18
On November 22 2020 07:55 deacon.frost wrote:
Sure, YOUR pause is importnat. But what about the other person who may not have the time for your pause? Have you thought about them as well? While your reason for a pause may be a good one, their unpausing may have a reason as well. For sure mine do.


A good reason to instantly unpause? I don't buy that--games take a variable amount of time anyhow, if you're immediately unpausing you're just being an asshole.

That being said not unpausing is still a courtesy that the opponent is extending to you, so I don't think it's something Blizzard should be enforcing.
Komodo
Profile Joined May 2010
Mexico89 Posts
November 22 2020 02:49 GMT
#19
There is no game that I have played that I do not concede some minutes to the other player if they pause, why? Just common courtesy as everyone can have something pop up in the midle of a game (pizza ringing the door comes to mind).

As ZigguratOfUr said, if you or your opponent unpause the game on the second you are just a complete asshole. Please have the minimum level of sportmanship.
Honor above all, death to the heretic.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44602 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-22 03:16:15
November 22 2020 03:14 GMT
#20
Definitely disagree, like most people here. I'll allow for a small break as a courtesy, but there's no obligation for people to allow others to prevent them from playing the game. If you need to leave the game, even temporarily, that's on you, not your opponent.

If you think an opponent not letting you pause is disrespectful, just think how disrespectful it is that you're wasting their time with your pause. You're on there to play and win. If it's an emergency or something comes up, leave the game or at least don't be surprised if someone won't honor your pause.
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