EPTSC2 teams react to War Chest Team League - Page 4
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elluel
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Totoro1
25 Posts
Except for a few teams like team liquid. It's hard nowadays to identify with a team in SC2. There is too much roster rotation and it's often more like a personal sponsorship than a "real" team. This kind of event will be fun and the idea of a draft is cool. How many people complaining about this event not being a team league actually care about a team league like GTC? I would rather watch a fun one-shot event where we see the best players drafted in teams than a regular team league that lasts for months without much interest. | ||
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Whatson
United States5357 Posts
On June 17 2020 15:31 Fighter wrote: Can't those teams still send their players? The players can still go, with their team names and jerseys (if on camera at all). They can still give shoutouts to sponsors if they win. What's the difference between a team sending their players to this, versus sending their players to any regular solo tourney? I mean, correct me if I'm wrong here... I know that AS teams, they'd like a proper team league where they can get more of the spot light, but... come on. This isn't 2011. I don't even know more than 1-2 of those teams. Admittedly, I've become a filthy casual, but I USED to be pretty big on SC2, and I have to imagine that a lot of people are in my shoes as well. How many people are going to tune in to watch a team league with teams they don't even know? On the other hand, most people do remember their favorite casters, and I'd DEFINITELY tune in to see a caster coached team pick tournament. Idk, seems like the people complaining here are a little too close to the action to have much perspective on this. Kudos to Blizzard and Wardi for organizing something interesting and fun. I used to follow SC2 religiously, even at the beginning of LotV, and I have no idea who any of these teams are LOL so yeah you're definitely not the only one. | ||
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Elentos
55555 Posts
On June 18 2020 03:11 Shathe wrote: Why does everyone keep saying its a one off event / possibility? Well Wardi is one of the main organizers and he said it's a one-off. | ||
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RDaneelOlivaw
Vatican City State733 Posts
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Howard_Kao
China261 Posts
On June 18 2020 05:42 Elentos wrote: Well Wardi is one of the main organizers and he said it's a one-off. If this is an one-off event just for the ten year anniversary I'll support it with both my hands up, if they're going to make it a long term repetitive event, then no. Good to know it's a one-off event. | ||
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
I suppose if the casters agree with the teams on this, they could agree on each caster picking the roster of one team. | ||
Waxangel
United States33488 Posts
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Gina
241 Posts
That may be it about the Chinese team league, it works well with Korea-based teams/rosters but I don't see foreign teams joining in. So I don't think it likely to be a regular thing. | ||
Ziggy
South Korea2105 Posts
On June 18 2020 16:34 Gina wrote: When the regular events start moving offline it's going to be difficult to sustain a team league with teams and players from around the world. Either you stay online and it's not as prestigious (and cross-server), or you go offline and spend what kind of money for regular fllying around?.. That may be it about the Chinese team league, it works well with Korea-based teams/rosters but I don't see foreign teams joining in. So I don't think it likely to be a regular thing. ign used to run an online teamleague that most people seemed content with | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On June 18 2020 00:25 Elentos wrote: I think just because it's funded by Warchest money you shouldn't compare it to Blizzcon or Katowice. Those are the world championships (well Blizzcon used to be). This is more like GSL vs The World - fun extra content largely based on popularity. And probably a one-of for the 10 year anniversary. It's hard not to compare it to Blizzcon or Katowice, if I am paying the same money for it. (Disclaimer: I've bought the previous warchests primarily to fund tournaments. I don't really care about the skins since I don't ladder anymore and you cannot use them in coop) Anyways, I do agree with the sentiment that a strict team league does not make a lot of sense since there are very few high profile team left. But I do hope that it is possible to involve the current teams in some nontrivial capacity. With all due respect to Wardi, whom this community owes so much more than he gets credit for, I generally find the idea of running a team league, but expanding the role of casters instead of actually engaging the existing teams, quite irritating. | ||
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kubaPS
Germany162 Posts
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Elentos
55555 Posts
On June 19 2020 22:45 kubaPS wrote: It's time for caster teams: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGV-1TPIzz4 Seems unrelated to the event. | ||
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ZombieGrub
United States712 Posts
On June 18 2020 16:37 Ziggy wrote: ign used to run an online teamleague that most people seemed content with Not sure we can compare anything with the golden era of SC2. Gina's correct to say it's not as prestigious imo. The last team league I remember being popular for both KR and non-KR teams and viewers was the Acer TeamStory League? And that got too difficult to organize and was slowly declining in hype/viewership afair. On June 19 2020 22:45 kubaPS wrote: It's time for caster teams: + Show Spoiler + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGV-1TPIzz4 This is totally unrelated to the War Chest stuff. | ||
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Captain Peabody
United States3126 Posts
Even in KESPA-days, though, there was significant tension between the teams' interests and those of the top players, who were more interested in individual leagues and titles and often resented the pressure to prioritize Proleague, and that would loom larger in a smaller and more top-heavy scene. It's also unclear to me whether the current crop of teams is actually capable of sustaining that kind of model as they are now. Proleague depended on the KESPA system with its very winnowed-down and regulated list of acknowledged teams with deep rosters and B-teams. It seems like the team ecosystem now is much more ad hoc, with very different sizes and levels of organization and player depth, not to mention scattered throughout the world, all of which would make it much harder to run something like Proleague. I do think that having something like Proleague again would be great and contribute to the long-term sustainability of the scene, and arguably that's a goal that Blizzard should be working towards, as they're probably the only ppl in the scene with the resources and pull to actually build up the necessary infrastructure and make it happen. It seems unlikely to me, though, that anything could be pulled together right away. The $150,000 showmatch league seems like kind of a red herring for that, but if it gets future Warchest funds earmarked in that direction maybe it'll be for the best. Certainly there's no reason to ascribe malice or lack of passion to the casters and players and organizers involved. | ||
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