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Justinian
United Kingdom158 Posts
On February 19 2020 20:29 insitelol wrote: Mech's op. Been saying it for ages. Retarded playstyle that should not have been viable. Ever. I doubt mech is OP, but if we find out at Katowice that it is, I hope Blizzard leave it that way for two years anyway. That's what they did with Zerg late game over the last two years, so it's only fair. Nice interview, good to see some lightly humorous questions. | ||
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Shuffleblade
Sweden1903 Posts
On February 19 2020 20:29 insitelol wrote: Mech's op. Been saying it for ages. Retarded playstyle that should not have been viable. Ever. Well if you've been saying that for ages then you have been wrong for ages  The playstyle for mech has ironically been one of the bread and butter protoss playstyles during long periods of starcraft 2. Defensive cost efficient buildup until you have an army that can't be beaten and then move out. I won't lie, there has been times when I have thought the protoss/mech playstyle is stupid but its all about how you react against it. | ||
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InfCereal
Canada1759 Posts
We always relied on mistakes, that's Zerg's whole soul. God reading Serral say this is so vindicating. I've been tooting that horn for almost a decade. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26612 Posts
On February 19 2020 21:28 Shuffleblade wrote: Well if you've been saying that for ages then you have been wrong for ages The playstyle for mech has ironically been one of the bread and butter protoss playstyles during long periods of starcraft 2. Defensive cost efficient buildup until you have an army that can't be beaten and then move out. I won't lie, there has been times when I have thought the protoss/mech playstyle is stupid but its all about how you react against it. I think we’re generally in a good spot where at the top level it’s not particularly viable to do basically nothing, defend and then push out with an unkillable army, across the races. Good interview, nice to see Serral with all his cash has resisted the hype of the luxury hat industry. | ||
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ZugzwangSC
87 Posts
Fun interview! Clem's getting so much hype right now. It's certainly well-deserved but I'm getting worried there's going to be an unfair amount of pressure on him to perform at Katowice as a result. I guess he'll just have to get used to it if he's gonna be a big dog. | ||
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parksonsc
175 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26612 Posts
On February 19 2020 22:19 parksonsc wrote: Serral complains about mech being broken and Zergs could never beat mech if Terran makes no mistake. Well that's just all Terran and Protoss could also say about Zerg in the last 2 years. Karma comes eventually right? He and other Zergs benefited so much during the Zerg's era and current mech's advantage is not even that broken. He did correct himself on that later the interview and says he doesn’t think it’s broken. He sounds more confused that he struggles against it and it works well in games he’s watched with it, seems strong to him but it’s not used as much as he’d expect. | ||
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LTCM
174 Posts
Any chance we can get you to open your mind to other races as well? They do still exist, at least outside of the winners circle that is. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26612 Posts
On February 19 2020 22:26 LTCM wrote: Three zerg interviews in a row. Surprising, the same number of consecutive world championships by Zerg. Any chance we can get you to open your mind to other races as well? They do still exist, at least outside of the winners circle that is. Are we extended balance whining to interview choices now? Lord give me strength. Serral - Is Serral. Lambo - Extremely opinionated, makes for good interview content. Solar - Known for his good English, more involved in the foreign scene than others. Has also been really active in the ESL cups so I imagine he’s just easier to get hold of at the minute. | ||
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Shuffleblade
Sweden1903 Posts
On February 19 2020 22:06 Wombat_NI wrote: I think we’re generally in a good spot where at the top level it’s not particularly viable to do basically nothing, defend and then push out with an unkillable army, across the races. Good interview, nice to see Serral with all his cash has resisted the hype of the luxury hat industry. I pretty much agree but isn't that mostly the mech playstyle? I mean besides battlemech ofc. If terran gets tanks and goes mech they will usually defend until maxed out and then push. And no I dont Count Banshee harass or hellion suicide squads as "doing something". Just like in wol and hots protoss wp or Oracle harass while defending didn't mean they weren't basically waiting for their deathball. | ||
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
On February 19 2020 22:26 LTCM wrote: Three zerg interviews in a row. Surprising, the same number of consecutive world championships by Zerg. Any chance we can get you to open your mind to other races as well? They do still exist, at least outside of the winners circle that is. Yeah, Solar won a ton of important tournamnets lately. He s just pretty much the only one, who can give us some insight in the KR scene, that was more an overall korean scene update than anything else. Wich was absolutly great and came in the right time. Serral is the best foreigner and Lambo hasrealy strong opinions, no matter if you agree or disagree with them. That is just realy good matrial to get an interview. I personally also hope for Clem (hopefully after his Team announcement), Drogo, Neeb, Showtime, Gabe and Reynor. But the Interviews we had so far where realy good. Keep it going Wax  | ||
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yubo56
690 Posts
On February 19 2020 22:33 Shuffleblade wrote: I pretty much agree but isn't that mostly the mech playstyle? I mean besides battlemech ofc. If terran gets tanks and goes mech they will usually defend until maxed out and then push. And no I dont Count Banshee harass or hellion suicide squads as "doing something". Just like in wol and hots protoss wp or Oracle harass while defending didn't mean they weren't basically waiting for their deathball. I think bc into heavy cyclone count while only building a few thanks at a time is the meta mech playstyle no? Zerg players are pretty good at denying passive mech nowadays. But idk what exactly serral had in mind | ||
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Elentos
55570 Posts
On February 19 2020 22:36 dbRic1203 wrote: He s just pretty much the only one, who can give us some insight in the KR scene, that was more an overall korean scene update than anything else. Wich was absolutly great and came in the right time. Wax speaks Korean, he doesn't have to pick interviewees by their English skill  On February 19 2020 22:00 InfCereal wrote: God reading Serral say this is so vindicating. I've been tooting that horn for almost a decade. Relying on your opponents' mistakes is the soul of the game, not your race. Nobody's ever won a game despite their opponent not making mistakes. Not even during BL/infestor. | ||
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Miralem Ibrahim
40 Posts
I don't understand why so many people are thinking mech is OP but koreans terrans don't seem to really want to use it. More often they played bio | ||
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Shuffleblade
Sweden1903 Posts
On February 19 2020 22:48 Elentos wrote: Relying on your opponents' mistakes is the soul of the game, not your race. Nobody's ever won a game despite their opponent not making mistakes. Not even during BL/infestor. Well it depends how you define mistakes, if you define it broadly like not scouting at the exact right time, choosing the wrong buildorder, not macroing perfectly while also microing perfectly then no one has ever played a perfect game ever win or lose. If you mean actual mistakes then no, there are times in starcraft 2 when you lose with little fault of your own. Of course its easy in retrospect when the terran doom drop comes in that you should have had the a bigger part of your army in the main base but then maybe he would kill your third. Well scout better, you tried but he saw and scanned your observer, well Control your observer better, it was boosted medivacs that saw, dropped and sniped it. Well you should have built more observers, big mistake of course you should lose….. Just saying that yes while starcraft 2 is generally about who makes the lest mistakes sometimes you just get out buildordered, out strategized or hardcountered. | ||
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Howard_Kao
China261 Posts
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On February 19 2020 22:26 LTCM wrote: Three zerg interviews in a row. Surprising, the same number of consecutive world championships by Zerg. Actually if you count IEM, it's 5 an counting, next up will be a Reynor and a soO interview I guess | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On February 19 2020 22:00 InfCereal wrote: God reading Serral say this is so vindicating. I've been tooting that horn for almost a decade. Yeah must've been fucking hell relying on mistakes in 2012, just so Zerg could barely edge a win with broodlord/infestor. Very good interview. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
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