EPTcongrats DARKKKKK! and South Korea! in solid performance, congrats Reynor for 2nd place, he needs more training in korea and he'll be a great player
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Dark wins the 2019 WCS Global Finals - Page 2
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paloma_rivers
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congrats DARKKKKK! and South Korea! in solid performance, congrats Reynor for 2nd place, he needs more training in korea and he'll be a great player User was warned for this post | ||
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pvsnp
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19229 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16056 Posts
On November 03 2019 08:15 paloma_rivers wrote: serral fanboy salty at it again?? haha. congrats DARKKKKK! and South Korea! in solid performance, congrats Reynor for 2nd place, he needs more training in korea and he'll be a great player I believe he said he wants to go back to Korea and I'm hoping he does. Since Serral can't be bothered with it, I'm hoping Reynor goes and continues to improve. It'd be great to see him snatch the best foreigner title in the world. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16056 Posts
On November 03 2019 08:25 BisuDagger wrote: Huge shoutout to the casters and crew to pull off a 12 hour event. Also, props to the observer(s?) for working 12 hrs straight too. Twitch chat gave that observer hell in the finals, but man imagine keeping up with those amazing pros as long as that person did. Yea to hell with that. Observing is tiring dude. Did they really have the same person do it for 12 hours straight? That's borderline criminal. | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On November 03 2019 08:29 Vindicare605 wrote: I believe he said he wants to go back to Korea and I'm hoping he does. Since Serral can't be bothered with it, I'm hoping Reynor goes and continues to improve. It'd be great to see him snatch the best foreigner title in the world. as long as the affirmative action WCS circuit exists, there is little to no financial incentive to go to korea You saw it happen to Neeb. Neeb is an absurdly talented foreigner. won kespa cup 18 years old, gsl semifinalist at like 20 years old. he used to live and practice in korea good but came back to america because he could just farm the region locked trophies and make easy money instead of fighting for scraps in the dogfight that is GSL | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16056 Posts
On November 03 2019 08:33 BerserkSword wrote: as long as the affirmative action WCS circuit exists, there is little to no financial incentive to go to korea You saw it happen to Neeb. Neeb is an absurdly talented foreigner. won kespa cup 18 years old, gsl semifinalist at like 20 years old. he used to live and practice in korea good but came back to america because he could just farm the region locked trophies and make easy money instead of fighting for scraps in the dogfight that is GSL Preaching to the choir dude. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On November 03 2019 08:29 Vindicare605 wrote: I believe he said he wants to go back to Korea and I'm hoping he does. Since Serral can't be bothered with it, I'm hoping Reynor goes and continues to improve. It'd be great to see him snatch the best foreigner title in the world. If Reynor surpasses Serral, he becomes the best player in the world, foreigner or not. As far as I know, Neeb had no intention to live and play in Korea for years; this narrative of winning easy money in WCS...stealing them from Serral and Reynor? It worked out pretty well, I have to say xd It's one thing to recognize GSL as the home of the majority of the best Sc2 players, it's another to think Korea is the holy promised land. It has actually being shown that you can become the best even without residing in Korea; while having Serral and/or Reynor in GSL would be interesting, it js not(anymore) an essential requirement to be one of Sc2's greats. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16056 Posts
On November 03 2019 08:46 Xain0n wrote: If Reynor surpasses Serral, he becomes the best player in the world, foreigner or not. Yea, that's your opinion. Serral can't ever hold that title without a Code S title. that's mine. | ||
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FBTsingLoong
China410 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19229 Posts
On November 03 2019 08:51 FBTsingLoong wrote: Dark defeated the best Terran,best Protoss and the one who defeated the best Zerg on his way to the championship.He deserved it.It's a honorable moment for Dark.But for me,Classic,the Protoss itself,is the most honorable player in this tournament. Classic got so close to winning that nydus game. He is leaving his final tournament(for now) in the most memorable way possible. | ||
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AxiomBlurr
786 Posts
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franzji
United States581 Posts
The blizzcon crew probably just wanted to get the show done with and go to sleep for the "real event" which started the next day. Of course the casting crew did their best and big congrats to them. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On November 03 2019 08:48 Vindicare605 wrote: Yea, that's your opinion. Serral can't ever hold that title without a Code S title. that's mine. A fringe opinion. We may discuss if Serral is now the best or not in the wake of Dark's victory, only fanatism could deny Serral was the undisputed best player in the world last year, without having played in Code S once. | ||
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TentativePanda
United States800 Posts
On November 03 2019 08:01 BerserkSword wrote: 2019 dark is the greatest peak of LotV imo B8 | ||
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TentativePanda
United States800 Posts
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col_jung
139 Posts
Alas, still an ultimately disappointing and anti-climactic day. 1) No Maru vs Serral. Actually, I was kind of relieved because people want to see a fair contest. With current state in balance, Maru would have probably got swept like he did by Dark. The best time for this showdown would have been at last year's Global Finals when the hype was at pitch fever. Right now I'd say Serral vs Dark and Serral vs Stats are the more relevant rivalries of our time. 2) No Serral vs. Dark. It was a matter of intense personal honour that Dark proved himself here. On the other hand, Serral defeating Dark should put to bed any final doubts about who was the best of the year. Unfortunately, this showdown was denied--what was most sad was Reynor dispatched the reigning king only to be swept by Dark. Pretty anti-climactic. The problem here isn't that Reynor's not a worthy opponent--Reynor's ZvZ is top-level. It's that his ZvT and ZvP isn't as top-level. Serral is the complete package, the ultimate weapon--a foreigner intruder whom the Koreans truly respect, thus representing a problem the Koreans desperately wanted to solve. Dark, with his immense skill and ego, wanted to be that saviour--it became an obsession for him. So Serral vs. Dark would have been a proper showdown of World-Best vs. Challenger, instead of the Foreigner-Sidekick vs Disappointed-Dark showdown we got. I felt like a Serral vs. Dark Finals would have been as symbolic as the Maru vs. Serral match we were denied last year. Note: I don't want to take anything away from Reynor--he put on a stellar show and along with TIME has intensely bright futures. 3) BlizzCon production quality issues others have already talked about. There was also something inherently "unfriendly" about that stadium in the Finals. You could hardly see the crowds due to the lighting difference, but that could partly be down to limitations in the digital capture (digital image sensors have a lower dynamic range than our eyes). It felt like the players were competing in a chamber by themselves and seemed a bit surreal. In contrast I really enjoyed the Playoffs in the AfreecaTV studios--great lighting and lighting evenness, banner props, production quality etc. You can't beat dat sweet GSL production. | ||
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ProFalseIdol
70 Posts
On November 03 2019 08:46 Xain0n wrote: If Reynor surpasses Serral, he becomes the best player in the world, foreigner or not. As far as I know, Neeb had no intention to live and play in Korea for years; this narrative of winning easy money in WCS...stealing them from Serral and Reynor? It worked out pretty well, I have to say xd It's one thing to recognize GSL as the home of the majority of the best Sc2 players, it's another to think Korea is the holy promised land. It has actually being shown that you can become the best even without residing in Korea; while having Serral and/or Reynor in GSL would be interesting, it js not(anymore) an essential requirement to be one of Sc2's greats. A win against Showtime, Has, Special? You can hardly call that an achievement. At this point Serral has only done what Neeb has achieved before - surprise everyone. He has lost all tournaments where there are no restrictions. He's only won tournaments where half of it are circuit players. Reynor has already tried Code S and got destroyed. Serral, full of excuses. To be the best, you have to compete where the best players are found, no matter how you sugar-coat it. On November 03 2019 09:03 Xain0n wrote: A fringe opinion. We may discuss if Serral is now the best or not in the wake of Dark's victory, only fanatism could deny Serral was the undisputed best player in the world last year, without having played in Code S once. Sure I'll give you that. WCS > winning 3 GSL Code S IN A ROW. Dream on! | ||
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ProFalseIdol
70 Posts
On November 03 2019 09:02 AxiomBlurr wrote: The blink Dts in game 5 v Rogue by Classic was some of the most clutch game play I have ever seen, the balls on the Chin are E(sports)normous! And it was against Sexy boy, the player also with balls of steel. And it is actually a payback for what Rogue did before to him at match point. Classic was then the recent SSL, IEM champion: | ||
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Vutalisk
United States680 Posts
It is unfortunately that this BC was so disappointing with a ridiculous schedule. His winning moment was so underwhelming as I could barely hear any cheering. It is just sad. | ||
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