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On October 12 2019 18:06 sneakyfox wrote:
I'm not sure I really follow the main line of this article. All players have matchups that they are better at than others, and most championship runs involve at least some bracket luck - that just comes with the format. Players are never up against every single top player of every race.
I feel like the article takes too much away from Dark's accomplishments this year. For me he's clearly in pole position to be POTY at this point.
"Clearly" in pole position? Let me doubt it. He's a strong contender.
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On October 12 2019 18:06 sneakyfox wrote:
I'm not sure I really follow the main line of this article. All players have matchups that they are better at than others, and most championship runs involve at least some bracket luck - that just comes with the format. Players are never up against every single top player of every race.
I feel like the article takes too much away from Dark's accomplishments this year. For me he's clearly in pole position to be POTY at this point.
I think right now, Dark does have best results this year but Serral has looked like the stronger player. So far, no one dominated super hard this year unlike in 2018 but if Dark wins this Blizzcon, I'd say this is one of the best runs in SC2 history.
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So Dark's year is meaningless because he lost one close series to Serral in march, despite the fact that he got more points than Serral in a more competitive circuit? What a stupid article.
I remember when the point of these was to get people excited for every player going into Blizzcon, rather than being all about fan-boying over one player.
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I sense some hesitation on this article, because I'm Dark fan too and I do hesitate despite he finally got Code S and made an excellent Super Tournament 2. Of course my reasons could be a bit different, but Dark used to be an absolute monster and he got the best hyper late game before Maru's revival last year. But my point is that Dark was in a perfect shape when Starcraft 2 was more competitive (at least in Korea) than now. Gotta say the same for TY, but this is another story.
So Dark has the best statistics from all Koreans this year and he is like far ahead than anyone but I'm still uncertain: Is he really the best and is he really ready for the Grand Finals trophy? He's more with the potential of a semi-finalist than having a faith that he will take it all. Good luck for this incredible guy!
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I do largely agree with the article and about Dark situation comming into Blizzcon, he should be the favorite to win it all, but yet I don't see it, it dosen't feel like it's his time.
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Dark is the #1 player right now. I don't think either Rogue or Serral are capable of matching his run at super tournament (3-1 Maru, 3-1 Stats, 3-0 soO, 4-0 TY).
That being said, this blizzcon will entirely come down to ZvZ. And in that department both Serral and Rogue have the upper hand. His unfathomably strong TvZ will be irrelevent.
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Elentos
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On October 12 2019 22:47 Nakajin wrote:
I do largely agree with the article and about Dark situation comming into Blizzcon, he should be the favorite to win it all, but yet I don't see it, it dosen't feel like it's his time.
Probably because his weakest match-up is ZvZ and deep down everyone thinks the top 4 of Blizzcon will be 4 Zergs.
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On October 12 2019 23:04 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2019 22:47 Nakajin wrote:
I do largely agree with the article and about Dark situation comming into Blizzcon, he should be the favorite to win it all, but yet I don't see it, it dosen't feel like it's his time. Probably because his weakest match-up is ZvZ and deep down everyone thinks the top 4 of Blizzcon will be 4 Zergs.
Nah it will be three zergs and a toss
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Elentos
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On October 12 2019 23:04 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2019 23:04 Elentos wrote:On October 12 2019 22:47 Nakajin wrote:
I do largely agree with the article and about Dark situation comming into Blizzcon, he should be the favorite to win it all, but yet I don't see it, it dosen't feel like it's his time. Probably because his weakest match-up is ZvZ and deep down everyone thinks the top 4 of Blizzcon will be 4 Zergs. Nah it will be three zergs and a toss
Just call him Stats.
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Nice article, that title is a really good representation of Dark haha
I think the fact that he lost pretty one-sidedly against Rogue makes people kind of disregard him against the likes of Serral in BlizzCon, even when his other matchups are so good
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United States33713 Posts
On October 12 2019 23:19 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2019 23:04 Fango wrote:On October 12 2019 23:04 Elentos wrote:On October 12 2019 22:47 Nakajin wrote:
I do largely agree with the article and about Dark situation comming into Blizzcon, he should be the favorite to win it all, but yet I don't see it, it dosen't feel like it's his time. Probably because his weakest match-up is ZvZ and deep down everyone thinks the top 4 of Blizzcon will be 4 Zergs. Nah it will be three zergs and a toss Just call him Stats.
That does seem like the case on paper, but Blizzcon never seems to go the way we expect. Though, that BO5 group stage....
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Elentos
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On October 13 2019 01:16 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2019 23:19 Elentos wrote:On October 12 2019 23:04 Fango wrote:On October 12 2019 23:04 Elentos wrote:On October 12 2019 22:47 Nakajin wrote:
I do largely agree with the article and about Dark situation comming into Blizzcon, he should be the favorite to win it all, but yet I don't see it, it dosen't feel like it's his time. Probably because his weakest match-up is ZvZ and deep down everyone thinks the top 4 of Blizzcon will be 4 Zergs. Nah it will be three zergs and a toss Just call him Stats. That does seem like the case on paper, but Blizzcon never seems to go the way we expect. Though, that BO5 group stage....
Well the first thing I'd expect to happen is Blizzard announcing the Blizzcon groups before we know the full lineup for HSC XX. But at this rate maybe not.
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Dark is probably the best player in the world right now in terms of raw skill but Zerg being overpowered right now actually actively hurts his chances of winning this event because of ZvZ. In my opinion if Infestor/Broodlord was nerfed right now he would be by far the best Zerg in the world.
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On October 13 2019 02:59 JJH777 wrote:
Dark is probably the best player in the world right now in terms of raw skill but Zerg being overpowered right now actually actively hurts his chances of winning this event because of ZvZ. In my opinion if Infestor/Broodlord was nerfed right now he would be by far the best Zerg in the world.
yeah Dark seems to be least reliant on broodlord infestor of all zerg
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On October 13 2019 02:59 JJH777 wrote:
Dark is probably the best player in the world right now in terms of raw skill but Zerg being overpowered right now actually actively hurts his chances of winning this event because of ZvZ. In my opinion if Infestor/Broodlord was nerfed right now he would be by far the best Zerg in the world.
Just like last year, right? Only abusing Broodlords and Infestors Serral can hope to outshine Dark.
Open your eyes, please.
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On October 13 2019 04:49 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2019 02:59 JJH777 wrote:
Dark is probably the best player in the world right now in terms of raw skill but Zerg being overpowered right now actually actively hurts his chances of winning this event because of ZvZ. In my opinion if Infestor/Broodlord was nerfed right now he would be by far the best Zerg in the world. Just like last year, right? Only abusing Broodlords and Infestors Serral can hope to outshine Dark. Open your eyes, please.
Dark's ZvT and ZvP eclipse Serral's, but I think Serral is the far better ZvZ player
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Dark's head is figuratively mounted to Serral's wall, almost a separate trophy in itself (presumably with the numbers "34-1" engraved on a plaque beneath it).
Hahaha! That made LOL so hard I nearly choked on my sandwich.
What I'd personally really like to see is Dark getting beat by Neeb.
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Wax plz, a typo: "was simply not enough to enough to contend"
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On October 13 2019 05:38 BerserkSword wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2019 04:49 Xain0n wrote:On October 13 2019 02:59 JJH777 wrote:
Dark is probably the best player in the world right now in terms of raw skill but Zerg being overpowered right now actually actively hurts his chances of winning this event because of ZvZ. In my opinion if Infestor/Broodlord was nerfed right now he would be by far the best Zerg in the world. Just like last year, right? Only abusing Broodlords and Infestors Serral can hope to outshine Dark. Open your eyes, please. Dark's ZvT and ZvP eclipse Serral's, but I think Serral is the far better ZvZ player
After what Serral demonstrated at GSL vs TheWorld it's a little bit hard to say honestly. He just outplayed Trap Classic and TY most of these games was pretty close to masterclasses. They all 3 played well but they all 3 looked pretty helpless in most of the games. And same in the last HSC when he lost only to Stats in groop stages and 3 games against TY in the final but all the others games was just demonstrations of strenghs by Serral no one really made him sweat at all.
And in WCS he was close to a perfect score playing all 3 matchups. He look so almost untuchable only Stats in godmode managed to beat him and it was very close.
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Serral is definitely favored head to head vs dark. KR ZvZ has been behind Eu ZvZ for a while now based on Serral raising the overall level of the matchup on Eu. However, in my mind that doesnt make him a bigger favorite to win blizzcon - even in the current state of the game. Darks ZvT is the best in the world imo (3-1 Maru 4-0 TY vs Serral having much more competitive series with TY and Inno) I also like him better in matchups vs Kr Toss than Serral. In terms of overall year performance I have to give the edge to Dark who had the better year. Serral was eliminated from WESG in the finals by innovation..a player who didnt even qualify for blizzcon (due to playing in a much more competitive overall region). He also lost to Reynor twice in WCS events and soO (who is definitely this year in worse form than Dark). I see Serral/Reynor/Rogue as Darks opportunities for elimination @ blizzcon while I see Stats/Maru/Rogue/Trap/Classic/Reynor all having potential for eliminating Serral. Overall Serral is very obviously the best ZvZ player in the world right now but I think in terms of overall you would have to give Dark an edge. One Kr Terran qualifying for blizzcon and the fact that Serral is a big favorite in a head to head matchup however makes me put the odds at a coinflip between which one of them wins it.
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