Blizz: Proposed changes for post-BlizzCon patch 2019

On October 11 2019 21:24 Vision_ wrote:
Of course it s THE problem since the Beta...

I already thought to remove vision of creep tumours but i think it s better, in term of game design, to let the vision and remove invisibility --- Like that, ennemies of Zerg will continue to struggle against the borderline of creep (T often get caught, P can struggle a little bit imo)

Then add hit points and armor, buildings priority, plus some welcome upgrade/buff to help defence against among others hellions,

On October 12 2019 02:04 Lexender wrote:


I've always think that the change that makes most sense about hellbats is to remove the bio tag and add a passive ability that allows them to be healed by medivacs.

It will make no impact in anything but the interaction betwen them and archons, wich would help terran do more conservative mech styles vs protoss without really changing much of anything.

On October 12 2019 03:43 WeddingEpisode wrote:
For energy-based units, they could spawn with less energy? (BC's, for example).

On October 12 2019 01:04 InfCereal wrote:


Your solution doesn't solve your problem. An increased CD doesn't matter at all when you have 8 queens.

On October 13 2019 10:56 DanceSC wrote:
This whole thing is really upsetting. No one is blind to the current state of the game, everyone agrees on the late game balance issues, and it feels like they didn't really address them. Protoss are getting screwed again, Zerg get more buffs... it feels like the primary focus was the TvZ matchup this time

On October 13 2019 04:57 BerserkSword wrote:
People want creep tumor vision to be gone now....make it stop

We already know what happens when you remove a defensive foundation from a race - look no further than Protoss losing its mothership core at the end of 2017. Protoss hasn't been a real trophy viable race since.

Don't do the same thing to Zerg.

On October 13 2019 19:51 Justinian wrote:

Zerg needs to be nerfed, and nerfed hard. Protoss is already weak, as you say (mainly against Zerg) and Terran is hardly winning much lately (particularly weak in TvP and late game vs Zerg). You seem to be ignoring the fact that balance is based on the relative strength of each race. A nerf to one is effectively a buff to the others. Nerfing Zerg will help bring Protoss back to viability in PvZ (which is absolutely needed) and will help Terran in late game scenarios. Bringing Zerg down to Protoss' level is absolutely needed. Protoss buffs are not the answer as TvP is already too hard for Terran.

The current proposed changes are completely inadequate. The evidence of Zerg's strength against both other races is clear and major nerfs are needed, especially to the Infestor and I wouldn't at all mind further nerfs to creep - it's insanely powerful and suffocates the opponent. The existing nerf barely affected the real in-game speed of creep spread - look at any pro game and the map with be mostly covered by 10 minutes (and that's with the opponent constantly clearing it).

On October 13 2019 04:57 BerserkSword wrote:
People want creep tumor vision to be gone now....make it stop

We already know what happens when you remove a defensive foundation from a race - look no further than Protoss losing its mothership core at the end of 2017. Protoss hasn't been a real trophy viable race since.

Don't do the same thing to Zerg.

On October 14 2019 02:49 BronzeKnee wrote:


As as Protoss player the MSC was the worst thing that ever happened. Photon Overcharge took no skill. It is why I stopped playing.

The bigger issue is that Protoss lost the MSC, but the other races didn't lose their defensive crutches. So Protoss was forced to build more units early just to survive, slowing down builds.

I think Protoss early units should be buffed to force the other races to build units early if Blizzard doesn't want to equalize the defensive potential of the races.

I still think that WOL always had the early game right (save the 1-1-1 and Soul Train) and it was the late game that was the problem. You had to earn an expansion in WOL with skilled defensive play, now they are basically free. Might as well start every game with two bases. Blizzard ruined the early game in an attempt to make the late game better, and failed.

On October 13 2019 21:41 rasi86 wrote:


Agree 100%. I still don't get why Blizzard seems to not want to admit the imbalance of Z vs T/P, this needs to be adressed. Unfortunately the proposed changes nerf toss even more while Z looks quite the same. It's pretty strange to me how this could be the case.

Also, why do they plan to have 100 updates in one building? This is stupid imo