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sneakyfox
4354 Posts
On November 15 2019 05:20 Slydie wrote: The OP should be updated again: https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/551651-blizz-proposed-changes-for-post-blizzcon-patch-2019?page=32 Wrong link, here it is: https://starcraft2.com/en-us/news/23223600 | ||
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geokilla
Canada7244 Posts
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egrimm
Poland1098 Posts
Most seam at least reasonable even if do not nail down the issues exactly. However I am also not keen on adding more upgrades to the game as there is already a bit too many of them - some "clean up" would be nice. Also I do not like Adept change, seems really circumstancial. Maybe instead of increasing attack speed add bouncing attack (similar to mutalisk) ? And if they want to differentiate Adept from zealot further they should make Adept more nimble: Increase movement speed, decrease attack delay, reduce health/shields etc. | ||
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Drfilip
Sweden237 Posts
On November 15 2019 07:59 egrimm wrote: However I am also not keen on adding more upgrades to the game as there is already a bit too many of them - some "clean up" would be nice. I am of the opposite side. The upgrades will make playstyles even more impactful. You will mold your military according to your wishes and it will be stronger as the games go on, making early game more pronounced. | ||
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JesSaves
1 Post
Logically it makes sence since Nydus Worm and Nydus Network is the same biological organism, so cutting off one head damages the main body. What main essences stay behind this idea: - To make Nydus meta play less reckless for zerg player. So Zerg has to estimate risks of creating Nydus worm right infront of enemy army. I think it will make Nydus net more as a strategical tool. Aslo multiple worms become more risky in general. Zerg can great as many exits as he wants, but an opponent can destroy whole network after 4 worms have been found and killed - It will force Queen's Transfusion + Nydus Network interaction. In order to maintain Nydus Network beeing alive zerg has to use more transfusions behind the scene but not on the battlefield. Also it will make nydus strategy more APM consuming. 25% of nydus network HP = 212.5, so zerg has to make 2 transfusions (and plus some time) to cover the damage after 1 dead worm. - Potentially we (as viewers) could watch more breathtaking gameplay moments when zerg army gets trapped on enemy base and die (or not), or even when zerg-player lose his army because of whole Network get destroyed. - If enemy player sees 5th sequential Nydus worm after killing four previous in short time he will know that zerg is investing additional resources into Nydus strategy. Additional potential for mindgames. - If zerg waits enough he will be able to create more Nydus worms thanks to zerg's regeneration. | ||
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BerserkSword
United States1279 Posts
On November 12 2019 09:40 Slydie wrote: Did you ever try microing 2 drops while sieging forward with mines and liberators, emping with ghosts and stim/kiting bio? It is humanly impossible of course. Increasing the skill cap of Toss is completely fine imo. You will get used to it! All of that is fine and all but it is not as difficult as Protoss micro as it stands right now. One thing you are also not taking into account that micro doesn’t mean nearly as much when there is such pitiful dps. Protoss units have such pitiful DPS! Including the new zealot. So while you can micro to get that juicy flank the zealots will just bounce off an MMM ball. It’s absurd. | ||
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Carminedust
479 Posts
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BerserkSword
United States1279 Posts
On November 18 2019 01:45 Carminedust wrote: cant wait for blinding cloud and whatever that infestor cloud thing is called to stack so nothing dies from air or ground as ultras eat away at everything on the ground Ultras will still be garbage. Disruptors, ghost snipe still work. Heavy hitters like Thors (which can already beat ultra 1v1), immortal, and archon still can do damage to ultras. good luck trying to catch stim marauders under a blinding cloud | ||
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FFgringo
37 Posts
On November 18 2019 01:45 Carminedust wrote: cant wait for blinding cloud and whatever that infestor cloud thing is called to stack so nothing dies from air or ground as ultras eat away at everything on the ground Does the microbial shroud stack?? Edit: oh ok you mean stacking shroud and blinding cloud. Sorry. | ||
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Loccstana
United States833 Posts
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washikie
United States579 Posts
On November 15 2019 07:59 egrimm wrote: I am slowly getting more positive about the upcoming changes. Most seam at least reasonable even if do not nail down the issues exactly. However I am also not keen on adding more upgrades to the game as there is already a bit too many of them - some "clean up" would be nice. Also I do not like Adept change, seems really circumstancial. Maybe instead of increasing attack speed add bouncing attack (similar to mutalisk) ? And if they want to differentiate Adept from zealot further they should make Adept more nimble: Increase movement speed, decrease attack delay, reduce health/shields etc. As long as an upgrade is not unbalanced I’m totally fine with it being in the game. It doesn’t hurt anything and it allows cool niche strategies to be used from time to time like recently when classic went blink dts. Or when Gumiho goes speed banshees. Sometimes niche upgrades take a long time to find thier uses but eventually do like burrow roaches (which had to be nerfed for zvz) My only problem with upgrades is if they are to strong or force another race to play a very specific way. Take khadrian amulet,blink back in the hots blink meta, blue flame in its first iteration, 75/75 overlord speed ect. | ||
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washikie
United States579 Posts
On November 19 2019 09:01 Loccstana wrote: Colossus get a range upgrade, lurkers get a range upgrade, siege tanks should get a range upgrade too. As some one who plays both Zerg and Terran in masters I think that could make tvt and zvt unpleasant if it was only +1 range maybe. but it would need to cost a lot and be gated behind fusion core or something. I guess you could play with it to not make turtle mech insufferable. You just don’t want it to be so strong that nothing can contest tanks on the ground. No mandatory air game is preferable. I wouldnt mind tanks getting some love vs toss though to make them scale a bit better. The removal of charge dmg on hit does help here since it means that terran’s frontline won’t die quite as fast maybe you get 1 extra tank shot volley now. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany13154 Posts
On November 19 2019 09:49 washikie wrote: As some one who plays both Zerg and Terran in masters I think that could make tvt and zvt unpleasant if it was only +1 range maybe. but it would need to cost a lot and be gated behind fusion core or something. I guess you could play with it to not make turtle mech insufferable. You just don’t want it to be so strong that nothing can contest tanks on the ground. No mandatory air game is preferable. I wouldnt mind tanks getting some love vs toss though to make them scale a bit better. The removal of charge dmg on hit does help here since it means that terran’s frontline won’t die quite as fast maybe you get 1 extra tank shot volley now. Disagree - positional units should be strong. The upgrade should increase range by 5 (up to 18) and cost 50/50 on the techlab. | ||
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Wombat_NI
Northern Ireland12051 Posts
On November 21 2019 23:39 Charoisaur wrote: Disagree - positional units should be strong. The upgrade should increase range by 5 (up to 18) and cost 50/50 on the techlab. *Shudders* I think Blizz botched the tank, it was a perfect RTS unit. Long range with a deploy period that gives it a definable strength and weakness. Does splash and friendly fire so lots of soft countermeasures too. Not only do units exist that can A-move into tank lines, spells exist that can yoink tanks, we now have a bunch of units that even out range tanks too, without the other drawbacks tanks have in mobility and positioning. | ||
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AntiHack
Switzerland517 Posts
On November 08 2019 01:52 Harris1st wrote: lol, didn't even remember that one. But then I haven't followed BW in a long time. Are the Queen upgrades ever used? xD Yes, queen is a solid pvt meta now, but even if it wasn't... unused units doesn't equal balance or imbalance. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
18670 Posts
On November 22 2019 00:30 AntiHack wrote: Yes, queen is a solid pvt meta now, but even if it wasn't... unused units doesn't equeal balance or imbalance. Which wasn't the claim, but thank you for your valuable input. | ||
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AntiHack
Switzerland517 Posts
On November 22 2019 02:04 The_Red_Viper wrote: Which wasn't the claim, but thank you for your valuable input. It's more of a message to the scout, ghost, queen whiners that always talk about those units in terms of balance. | ||
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ThunderJunk
United States320 Posts
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RandomPlayer416
15 Posts
For some reason there is no sound on my bluetooth headset once I load SC2. Loading the game literally kills my headset. No starcraft sounds and no background music from itunes / youtube. If anyone has an idea of what makes this happen it would help me a lot. And ya I tried to contact Blizzard to ask but of course I got no response. edit: Nevermind figured out | ||
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Lexender
Mexico2253 Posts
On November 19 2019 09:49 washikie wrote: As some one who plays both Zerg and Terran in masters I think that could make tvt and zvt unpleasant if it was only +1 range maybe. but it would need to cost a lot and be gated behind fusion core or something. I guess you could play with it to not make turtle mech insufferable. You just don’t want it to be so strong that nothing can contest tanks on the ground. No mandatory air game is preferable. I wouldnt mind tanks getting some love vs toss though to make them scale a bit better. The removal of charge dmg on hit does help here since it means that terran’s frontline won’t die quite as fast maybe you get 1 extra tank shot volley now. Tanks dont make turtle mech a thing, you need something to tech into, ravens are no longer massable and while BCs are not bad they aren't an ultimate lategame army (specially after the nerf). Just the economy changes we got in LotV make turtle mech not a thing anymore. | ||
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