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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33389 Posts
September 19 2019 22:16 GMT
#21
On September 20 2019 06:07 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2019 06:07 Luolis wrote:
On September 20 2019 05:52 Nakajin wrote:
I see that after last night someone went back to that Stuciu article about Rogue beeing a Patchzerg and all the shit it got and thought to himself:

"Let me top that"

Edit: God damit I just read the piece, it's actually well thought out and methodical, still don't think it's gonna stop it from derailling.

Didn't know it was a stuchiu article)

Goes to show, all TL writers are the same


miz hates rogue, stuchiu loves taeja

get your biases correct
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tigon_ridge
Profile Joined March 2019
482 Posts
September 19 2019 22:37 GMT
#22
On September 20 2019 05:20 Durnuu wrote:
It's either this guy or that guy. I'm going with the latter since Terran obviously is the most skilled race.

Let us please be friends.
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-19 22:43:43
September 19 2019 22:43 GMT
#23
Wouldn’t be a miz article without referencing non-gaming history (love it!)
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Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-19 22:56:17
September 19 2019 22:51 GMT
#24
I can forgive you for missing it, but a month ago I actually proved conclusively that Fruitdealer was the best player in StarCraft 2 using nothing but hard facts and enviable reason:

On August 20 2019 06:55 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
If you made a tournament today for modern players using the map pool of Steppes of War, Kulas Ravine, Desert Oasis, Blistering Sands, etc. no Zerg player could win it. Very likely no Zerg player could even win a single series. But Fruitdealer won one. And other Zerg players managed to take series. This objectively demonstrates that Zerg players in 2010 were capable of performing feats the much weaker Zerg players of today couldn't even hope to emulate.

Now you may be saying "that logic may be completely irrefutable, but it only proves that modern Zergs suck compared to their 2010 counterparts!" And that's correct, but consider this: modern Terrans and Protosses are so bad that they regularly lose to modern Zergs! This very tournament, which had many modern Terrans and Protosses in it, was capped by a mirror match-up between two modern Zergs! So we must rationally conclude that modern Terrans and Protosses suck too.

Quod erat demonstrandum!


EDIT: Didn't want to admit it, but I can't really find fault with this argument by Durnuu though:

On September 20 2019 05:20 Durnuu wrote:
It's either this guy or that guy. I'm going with the latter since Terran obviously is the most skilled race.


Except for his opinion on Terran, obviously.
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-19 23:24:20
September 19 2019 23:22 GMT
#25
Statistics don't lie, they are just mislabeled. If you want to prove something with statistics then you need to include the correct information.

Also this article is weird.
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States873 Posts
September 19 2019 23:40 GMT
#26
If you listen to the community, the subjective greatest SC2 player of all time is INnoVation.

If you prefer cold, hard facts, Rogue is our current Unofficial World Champion based on objective results, beating the guy who beat the guy who beat the guy... who beat our first champion, Fruitdealer.

I don't really know what people are on about with these Maru and Serral guys.
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
TentativePanda
Profile Joined August 2014
United States800 Posts
September 19 2019 23:45 GMT
#27
On September 20 2019 08:40 Kitai wrote:
If you listen to the community, the subjective greatest SC2 player of all time is INnoVation.

If you prefer cold, hard facts, Rogue is our current Unofficial World Champion based on objective results, beating the guy who beat the guy who beat the guy... who beat our first champion, Fruitdealer.

I don't really know what people are on about with these Maru and Serral guys.


Appreciate this
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25342 Posts
September 19 2019 23:51 GMT
#28
On September 20 2019 08:40 Kitai wrote:
If you listen to the community, the subjective greatest SC2 player of all time is INnoVation.

If you prefer cold, hard facts, Rogue is our current Unofficial World Champion based on objective results, beating the guy who beat the guy who beat the guy... who beat our first champion, Fruitdealer.

I don't really know what people are on about with these Maru and Serral guys.

I mean you say Unofficial world champion, I was always under the impression that was a totally official and recognised title, feel you’re underselling the prestige man
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
FBTsingLoong
Profile Joined April 2018
China410 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-19 23:59:42
September 19 2019 23:57 GMT
#29
No doubt,Serral is.
TyInnoMaruByunAlive,TIMBA
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
September 20 2019 00:19 GMT
#30
On September 20 2019 08:51 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2019 08:40 Kitai wrote:
If you listen to the community, the subjective greatest SC2 player of all time is INnoVation.

If you prefer cold, hard facts, Rogue is our current Unofficial World Champion based on objective results, beating the guy who beat the guy who beat the guy... who beat our first champion, Fruitdealer.

I don't really know what people are on about with these Maru and Serral guys.

I mean you say Unofficial world champion, I was always under the impression that was a totally official and recognised title, feel you’re underselling the prestige man


Ya I mean it on Liquipedia
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tigon_ridge
Profile Joined March 2019
482 Posts
September 20 2019 00:35 GMT
#31
On September 20 2019 08:57 FBTsingLoong wrote:
No doubt,Serral is.


Not only that, but there's also a pretty decent gap between him and the 2nd best. He's like the Magnus Carlsen of SC2.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
September 20 2019 00:42 GMT
#32
I am the best.
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Rusty253
Profile Joined July 2019
7 Posts
September 20 2019 00:55 GMT
#33
Maru is better than Innovation!
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States873 Posts
September 20 2019 01:06 GMT
#34
On September 20 2019 08:51 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2019 08:40 Kitai wrote:
If you listen to the community, the subjective greatest SC2 player of all time is INnoVation.

If you prefer cold, hard facts, Rogue is our current Unofficial World Champion based on objective results, beating the guy who beat the guy who beat the guy... who beat our first champion, Fruitdealer.

I don't really know what people are on about with these Maru and Serral guys.

I mean you say Unofficial world champion, I was always under the impression that was a totally official and recognised title, feel you’re underselling the prestige man


Apologies. Rogue is our Official Unofficial World Champion.
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
Latr02
Profile Joined December 2012
United States268 Posts
September 20 2019 01:58 GMT
#35
I thought we settled this debate long ago and went with the most EPS titles to determine the best player. Shocked that Miz didn't mention this. By this reputable criteria, Big Gabe is the best player of all time, with Socke a close second.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-20 03:03:42
September 20 2019 03:00 GMT
#36
Stuchio would have reminded people that Mvp conquered the world while being literally dead.

Or that Taeja didn't actually play sc2 and still won tournaments.

That's why those players are the best not the ones who actually better than them
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
September 20 2019 03:49 GMT
#37
I thought this was an article about TheBest[fOu]
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art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1184 Posts
September 20 2019 04:25 GMT
#38
Liquipedia has all the answers.
(Wiki)BeSt
Flash should fear Sacsri
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
September 20 2019 04:35 GMT
#39
On September 20 2019 13:25 art_of_turtle wrote:
Liquipedia has all the answers.
https://liquipedia.net/starcraft2/BeSt

wrong LP page
(Wiki)BeSt
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 20 2019 05:16 GMT
#40
The best player in the world is the one that I think is! No other way around it.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
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