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Rogue, Maru advance to Code S quarterfinals

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TL.net ESPORTS
Profile Joined July 2011
4 Posts
September 04 2019 20:59 GMT
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2019 Global StarCraft II League - Code S Season 3

This season's 'group of death' lived up to its name as Stats and Solar saw their recent hot-streaks cut short by the Jin Air duo of Rogue and Maru.

Rogue—who suffered Ro32 elimination in the previous season—was the first to redeem himself, advancing with victories over Stats and Solar. Stats' reputation in PvZ had skyrocketed after his 3-2 victory against Serral at Assembly Summer, but Rogue made short work of him with a two-base Nydus strategy, followed by a hardy defense against a cannon-rush in the next game. While Solar managed to force Rogue to a game three in the winners match, Rogue was able to force his way to quarterfinals with a decisive, Hydra-Lurker-Nydus backdoor attack in the series-clinching game.

Maru—who was also humiliated by an Ro32 exit last season—had a tougher path back to the playoffs. He was instantly humbled in his first game against Solar, whose mastery of Brood Lord-Infestor was too much for even Maru's infamous, nuke-laden, and infinitely patient mech play. After that series ended in a 1-2 loss, Maru was then faced with an elimination match against Stats—the very player who had 3-0'd him at the recent GSL vs. World tournament. Yet, just two weeks later, Maru came back looking like a totally different player. He obliterated Stats with late-game nukes in game one, and then outlasted a series of ever more desperate attacks from Stats in game two.

Facing Solar again in the group decider match, Maru opted to shelve mech for bio-based play. This approach proved to be more effective—although Solar continued to play well, Maru was able to overpower his opponent before he could put together his dreaded end-game composition. After the matches, Maru said his decision to switch to bio was an on-site improvisation. While he had practiced mostly mech (and been quite successful in practice), his comprehensive loss to Solar in his initial match forced him to change strategies.

Group C's results significantly impact the WCS Global Finals race as players look to finish in the top eight. #10 ranked Rogue remains a firm contender to make a push to the cutoff, while Stats sees his hold on the #7 spot grow more tenuous. Unfortunately, #13 Solar will need a Super Tournament 2 championship combined with abject failure from his rivals to secure a Global Finals spot.



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The Code S round of sixteen will conclude on Saturday, Sep 07 4:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) with Group D, featuring Classic, RagnaroK, Dear, and Zest. The Code S quarterfinals will be held soon after between September 10th and 11th (check out Liquipedia for more information).

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okays
Profile Joined September 2019
10 Posts
September 04 2019 21:31 GMT
#2
Why did they remove income per minute in the observer overlay? It can be very useful
Woosixion
Profile Joined February 2012
119 Posts
September 04 2019 22:19 GMT
#3
lol abject failure
the only way out is through...
DreamlnCode
Profile Joined December 2018
United Kingdom77 Posts
September 04 2019 22:34 GMT
#4
What Stats? Congrats to Rogue, I'm going to watch these games.
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
September 04 2019 23:00 GMT
#5
Maru vs Stats were really fun games to watch, great ones as well. Will be cheering for greenwings
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
NExt
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1651 Posts
September 04 2019 23:18 GMT
#6
Holy shit. I'm sure Maru could smash anyone in the last group. Then semifinals Keen or Trap ... Another Maru finals?!?!
Waiting for Protoss Jesus
col_jung
Profile Joined October 2017
139 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-05 04:14:44
September 05 2019 04:13 GMT
#7
Maru is still a monster. Those GG nukes against Stats and the first game in the final decider against Solar...wow.
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
September 05 2019 05:49 GMT
#8
On September 05 2019 13:13 col_jung wrote:
Maru is still a monster. Those GG nukes against Stats and the first game in the final decider against Solar...wow.


Yeah, but his realy bad Siege up timings looked worrysome. When HE finally fixed that, he became pretty much unstopable..
No mention of the cringy strategies of Korean ZvZ? Even when whatching, I could allready see Elazer and Lambo picking pretty much every decision made there apart. This didn t look like Korean ZvZ < Eu ZvZ, but K ZvZ <<<<<< Eu ZvZ.
MaxPax
Jj_82
Profile Joined December 2012
Swaziland419 Posts
September 05 2019 06:41 GMT
#9
Fantastic group with very entertaining games!
Once rode a waterslide with PartinG and TaeJa ✌
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
September 05 2019 06:50 GMT
#10
JIN AIR COACHING
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12790 Posts
September 05 2019 06:53 GMT
#11
Thanks for the write-up, but talking a bit about the patch and how it could have skewed results would have been useful imo!
WriterMaru
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4906 Posts
September 05 2019 08:17 GMT
#12
On September 05 2019 14:49 dbRic1203 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2019 13:13 col_jung wrote:
Maru is still a monster. Those GG nukes against Stats and the first game in the final decider against Solar...wow.


Yeah, but his realy bad Siege up timings looked worrysome. When HE finally fixed that, he became pretty much unstopable..
No mention of the cringy strategies of Korean ZvZ? Even when whatching, I could allready see Elazer and Lambo picking pretty much every decision made there apart. This didn t look like Korean ZvZ < Eu ZvZ, but K ZvZ <<<<<< Eu ZvZ.



ROLF Lambo xD I understand that Elazer is boosted after his win vs Dark but Lambo?????? Welp
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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kmh
Profile Joined November 2010
Finland351 Posts
September 05 2019 08:29 GMT
#13
KR ZvZ is just not that good.
StarcraftSquall
Profile Joined December 2018
United States196 Posts
September 05 2019 08:32 GMT
#14
On September 05 2019 08:18 NExt wrote:
Holy shit. I'm sure Maru could smash anyone in the last group. Then semifinals Keen or Trap ... Another Maru finals?!?!


Classic may have something to say about that.
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
September 05 2019 09:14 GMT
#15
On September 05 2019 17:17 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2019 14:49 dbRic1203 wrote:
On September 05 2019 13:13 col_jung wrote:
Maru is still a monster. Those GG nukes against Stats and the first game in the final decider against Solar...wow.


Yeah, but his realy bad Siege up timings looked worrysome. When HE finally fixed that, he became pretty much unstopable..
No mention of the cringy strategies of Korean ZvZ? Even when whatching, I could allready see Elazer and Lambo picking pretty much every decision made there apart. This didn t look like Korean ZvZ < Eu ZvZ, but K ZvZ <<<<<< Eu ZvZ.



ROLF Lambo xD I understand that Elazer is boosted after his win vs Dark but Lambo?????? Welp

They actually both analyse gsl replays on stream. I ve talked about decision making and strategies, not the execution. And in the further EU Zergs are vastly superior than Korean Zergs. That Korean Z vs EU Z can still be a close game is due to better controls on the Korean side only.
MaxPax
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
September 05 2019 09:56 GMT
#16
On September 05 2019 18:14 dbRic1203 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2019 17:17 Argonauta wrote:
On September 05 2019 14:49 dbRic1203 wrote:
On September 05 2019 13:13 col_jung wrote:
Maru is still a monster. Those GG nukes against Stats and the first game in the final decider against Solar...wow.


Yeah, but his realy bad Siege up timings looked worrysome. When HE finally fixed that, he became pretty much unstopable..
No mention of the cringy strategies of Korean ZvZ? Even when whatching, I could allready see Elazer and Lambo picking pretty much every decision made there apart. This didn t look like Korean ZvZ < Eu ZvZ, but K ZvZ <<<<<< Eu ZvZ.



ROLF Lambo xD I understand that Elazer is boosted after his win vs Dark but Lambo?????? Welp

They actually both analyse gsl replays on stream. I ve talked about decision making and strategies, not the execution. And in the further EU Zergs are vastly superior than Korean Zergs. That Korean Z vs EU Z can still be a close game is due to better controls on the Korean side only.

Question is if their decision making would be this good under the pressure at game
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
September 05 2019 10:01 GMT
#17
On September 05 2019 18:56 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2019 18:14 dbRic1203 wrote:
On September 05 2019 17:17 Argonauta wrote:
On September 05 2019 14:49 dbRic1203 wrote:
On September 05 2019 13:13 col_jung wrote:
Maru is still a monster. Those GG nukes against Stats and the first game in the final decider against Solar...wow.


Yeah, but his realy bad Siege up timings looked worrysome. When HE finally fixed that, he became pretty much unstopable..
No mention of the cringy strategies of Korean ZvZ? Even when whatching, I could allready see Elazer and Lambo picking pretty much every decision made there apart. This didn t look like Korean ZvZ < Eu ZvZ, but K ZvZ <<<<<< Eu ZvZ.



ROLF Lambo xD I understand that Elazer is boosted after his win vs Dark but Lambo?????? Welp

They actually both analyse gsl replays on stream. I ve talked about decision making and strategies, not the execution. And in the further EU Zergs are vastly superior than Korean Zergs. That Korean Z vs EU Z can still be a close game is due to better controls on the Korean side only.

Question is if their decision making would be this good under the pressure at game


Wasn't it shown enough times already?
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
September 05 2019 10:07 GMT
#18
On September 05 2019 18:56 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2019 18:14 dbRic1203 wrote:
On September 05 2019 17:17 Argonauta wrote:
On September 05 2019 14:49 dbRic1203 wrote:
On September 05 2019 13:13 col_jung wrote:
Maru is still a monster. Those GG nukes against Stats and the first game in the final decider against Solar...wow.


Yeah, but his realy bad Siege up timings looked worrysome. When HE finally fixed that, he became pretty much unstopable..
No mention of the cringy strategies of Korean ZvZ? Even when whatching, I could allready see Elazer and Lambo picking pretty much every decision made there apart. This didn t look like Korean ZvZ < Eu ZvZ, but K ZvZ <<<<<< Eu ZvZ.



ROLF Lambo xD I understand that Elazer is boosted after his win vs Dark but Lambo?????? Welp

They actually both analyse gsl replays on stream. I ve talked about decision making and strategies, not the execution. And in the further EU Zergs are vastly superior than Korean Zergs. That Korean Z vs EU Z can still be a close game is due to better controls on the Korean side only.

Question is if their decision making would be this good under the pressure at game

Lambo said one week before GSL vs World, that as long as Elazer isnt shitting himselve, he has a good shoot at whinnig vs Dark. But that foreigners shitting themselves, when playing against koreans is a real problem..
So we dont know, I suppose. I actually hope, that the good showings of EU ZvZ will actually release some pressure in the games from the EU Zergs, so that the Korean Zergs adapt and go for EU strats.
Seeing Rogue and Solar going for like 20+ Zerglings at the same time opting to go for full out attack, knowing, that it would the defenders advantage would be increadible hugh, was just cringy. If any of those 2 just made like 5 extra drones and then made the lings after scouting the attacked, either of them would have won right then and there.
MaxPax
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-05 10:23:54
September 05 2019 10:21 GMT
#19
On September 05 2019 19:07 dbRic1203 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2019 18:56 deacon.frost wrote:
On September 05 2019 18:14 dbRic1203 wrote:
On September 05 2019 17:17 Argonauta wrote:
On September 05 2019 14:49 dbRic1203 wrote:
On September 05 2019 13:13 col_jung wrote:
Maru is still a monster. Those GG nukes against Stats and the first game in the final decider against Solar...wow.


Yeah, but his realy bad Siege up timings looked worrysome. When HE finally fixed that, he became pretty much unstopable..
No mention of the cringy strategies of Korean ZvZ? Even when whatching, I could allready see Elazer and Lambo picking pretty much every decision made there apart. This didn t look like Korean ZvZ < Eu ZvZ, but K ZvZ <<<<<< Eu ZvZ.



ROLF Lambo xD I understand that Elazer is boosted after his win vs Dark but Lambo?????? Welp

They actually both analyse gsl replays on stream. I ve talked about decision making and strategies, not the execution. And in the further EU Zergs are vastly superior than Korean Zergs. That Korean Z vs EU Z can still be a close game is due to better controls on the Korean side only.

Question is if their decision making would be this good under the pressure at game

Lambo said one week before GSL vs World, that as long as Elazer isnt shitting himselve, he has a good shoot at whinnig vs Dark. But that foreigners shitting themselves, when playing against koreans is a real problem..
So we dont know, I suppose. I actually hope, that the good showings of EU ZvZ will actually release some pressure in the games from the EU Zergs, so that the Korean Zergs adapt and go for EU strats.
Seeing Rogue and Solar going for like 20+ Zerglings at the same time opting to go for full out attack, knowing, that it would the defenders advantage would be increadible hugh, was just cringy. If any of those 2 just made like 5 extra drones and then made the lings after scouting the attacked, either of them would have won right then and there.

And if Dark didn't fuck up it would have been probably 3:0, this is a two way street and you can't say this based on 1 game. Otherwise I pick up soO vs Serral where soO of all people stopped him.

Edit> You can't make such claims with region lock, but Solar went into finals of ROG, soO won IEM, sure, Dark fucked up, but that's 1 game of a player who's known as the foreigner killer(at least of those who are not named Serral). Rogue was slumping hard, who else do we have?
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
emperorofwild
Profile Joined July 2019
87 Posts
September 05 2019 10:46 GMT
#20
more and more late games ,and they end in the same ways
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