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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27360 Posts
August 18 2019 15:42 GMT
#181
On August 19 2019 00:27 UtherTruthBringer wrote:
Can't you guys just add new units instead of constantly making minuscule changes to the same units time and time again. Just add the reaver. Oh wait you would rather just continue to nickel and dime protoss and increase robo unit cost. My god

Reavers with Warp Prism pickup, Blizzard for all our sakes can you please do this? And by all I mean for the sake of my ladder MMR
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Dedraterllaerau
Profile Joined May 2019
113 Posts
August 20 2019 04:17 GMT
#182
On August 12 2019 16:28 Shuffleblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2019 15:40 JoFar wrote:

The change to Chargelots would be huge, as it is a core unit. Would be similar to removing zergling speed (or nerfing by 50+ Percent) or removing combat shields for Marines (or changing stim, that there would be no longer attack speed bonus, just move speed bonus).
You can't change one of them without changing something for the others. Especially as long there simply is no sign of any protoss dominance besides ONE (the last) GSL Season and maybe one or two Super Tournaments ...

Have you checked the patch history in lotv?

Zergling:
Slightly faster burrow and unburrow

Marine:
Unchanged

Zealot:
- Buff movement increase when charge is upgraded (2015)
- Charge now deals 30 dmg on hit, previous charge movement buff reverted (2015)
- Zealot charge damage reduced from 30 to 8 (2015)
- Zealot movement speed increase with charge massively increased (2016)
- Zealot charge upgrade cost from 200/200 to 100/100 (2017)


In lotv terran and zerg core units are untouched, the zealot has gained a very big runspeed buff when charge is researched, bonus damage on its charge attack and halved the cost of the charge upgrade. I could also mention that at launch of wol zealots didn't have a guaranteed hit with charge that was patched in 1 year after wol launched,

From launch the zealot has been hit with a literal bufftrain while the core units of other races has basically never been touched. (besides marine upgrade research time).

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On August 12 2019 15:40 JoFar wrote:

You can't change one of them without changing something for the others.

Well thats what they have been doing for the whole history of this game, especially in lotv. The zealot was supposed to be powerful but clunky and now its powerful and fast, they keep patching away the only weakness of the zealot.

I'm not saying the nerf should have gone through, I'm actually undecided about it.


Edit: In my opinion it feels like the zealot is buffed into a new role, they have been made powerful enough to strongly contribute to immortal/archon compositions. Their previous slower itterations were a lot weaker in situations when they weren't buffering for units with enough range. Colossi or disruptor, without these or air the zealot used to be kitable without archons or immortals being able to get many hits off which made those compositions a bit iffy. The buffs have strengthened those comps while also making the zealot harassments OP.



The Zealot has always been trash compared to the Marine and the Zergling which is why it's being constantly buffed because it's supposed to be the backbone of the Protoss army. I'm still amazed people can't understand this unit costs 100 minerals, so when you see 5 Zealots going ham in your base it's equal to that of 20 Zerglings or 10 stimmed Marines. JUST TO PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE FOR YOU SINCE MOST ARE NOT ABLE 2.
Uni1987
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands642 Posts
August 20 2019 07:21 GMT
#183
Wasn't this supposed to go live today?
.............
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2663 Posts
August 21 2019 15:19 GMT
#184
Is this live now? It should be no?
hungns35
Profile Joined August 2019
3 Posts
May 12 2021 08:14 GMT
#185
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gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2666 Posts
May 14 2021 07:23 GMT
#186
I cant believe how much balance whine is tolerated here. This place became a mess....
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
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