EPTOn August 05 2019 14:33 StarcraftSquall wrote:
At long last... a Protoss champion! It’s been YEARS :-)
At long last... a Protoss champion! It’s been YEARS :-)
Yeah! The first since Classic one GSL Super Tournament just a couple months ago!
Stats defeats Solar to win ASUS ROG Summer 2019 - Page 2
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BlackPride
United States186 Posts
Yeah! The first since Classic one GSL Super Tournament just a couple months ago! | ||
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sneakyfox
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fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium4033 Posts
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MrMischelito
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dalecooper
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Argonauta
Spain4958 Posts
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HsDLTitich
Italy830 Posts
On August 05 2019 14:33 StarcraftSquall wrote: At long last... a Protoss champion! It’s been YEARS :-) So we're not counting GSL Super Tournaments? :< | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7030 Posts
Good thing Stats' 3 Oracle/ 1 Pho/ 2 Adepts is so mechanically demanding, otherwise I couldn't ladder with Zerg anymore  Congratz to Stats! Hope to see more of Solar! Hyped for the GSL group Cutthroat Maru, Stats, Solar, Rogue O.O | ||
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Mudbuddha1
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mtgrooster
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kajtarp
Hungary485 Posts
So Stats might be one of the nicest guy IRL, but he has one of the most boring and disgusting playstyles. People say hero or sOs plays dirty, but their games are a whole lot more enjoyeable... | ||
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Muraddin
Slovakia10 Posts
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leublix
493 Posts
And people doubted me when I said he has the best PvZ in the world. Such a god. | ||
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Z3nith
485 Posts
On August 05 2019 19:27 kajtarp wrote: For me stasis wards look one of the most imba thing sc2 has. One player has to constantly watch the minimap, constantly micro their entire mineral lines, and must even leave units to kill stasis wards, meanwhile what does the other player need to do? Click stasis ward and the location? The difference in how much effort one player has to make defending them, against the effort of the other player who wants to pull it off is beyond huge. It is one of the things, i dislike most in sc2. Not only dislike it, but i find it really boring to watch... So Stats might be one of the nicest guy IRL, but he has one of the most boring and disgusting playstyles. People say hero or sOs plays dirty, but their games are a whole lot more enjoyeable... Calling stasis wards imba shows you either didn't watch the game or fail to appreciate what Stats did. He micro'd two separate oracles and his adept harass all at the same time WHILE macroing to an incredible level back home. He is probably the only player with the mechanics capable of pulling that off. It is in no way low skill what Stats did, in fact I'd go so far as to say it is some of the highest level PvZ I've seen in a long time. Also if stasis wards are imba then so are widow mine drops, baneling drops, BC teleports and liberator harass which is clearly not the case. | ||
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paddyz
Ireland628 Posts
Game 3 Stats got 3 shield batteries at home and held Serrals all in. Game 4 he started a 3rd and won with a committed Immortal/Sentry push. Game 5 he won through feigning the same Immortal/Sentry push, pulling back with a lead after Serral cut drones, dealing with swarmhosts really well and making a great transition into carriers to win. If anything its Infestor/Broodlord that is the same predictable stuff that wins over and over regardless. I am pretty sure Stats knew of Infestor/Broodlord, had years of trying to find a way to deal with it, is one of if not the most qualified Protoss to deal with it and still can't. Game 2 serves as as clear an example as possible imo. | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On August 05 2019 20:00 Z3nith wrote: Calling stasis wards imba shows you either didn't watch the game or fail to appreciate what Stats did. He micro'd two separate oracles and his adept harass all at the same time WHILE macroing to an incredible level back home. He is probably the only player with the mechanics capable of pulling that off. It is in no way low skill what Stats did, in fact I'd go so far as to say it is some of the highest level PvZ I've seen in a long time. Also if stasis wards are imba then so are widow mine drops, baneling drops, BC teleports and liberator harass which is clearly not the case. Both Classic and Maru have the mechanics to do it too IMO. | ||
SamirDuran
Philippines895 Posts
On August 05 2019 20:15 paddyz wrote: If anything its Infestor/Broodlord that is the same predictable stuff that wins over and over regardless. I am pretty sure Stats knew of Infestor/Broodlord, had years of trying to find a way to deal with it, is one of if not the most qualified Protoss to deal with it and still can't. Game 2 serves as as clear an example as possible imo. He also tried to play late game against reynor but he can't even come close when mass infestors come out. I think he also tried to do that against serral in g2 but he came to his senses and does his imba build which he can only do. Take note the even european pros cant even hold a candle on what stats is doing. | ||
TheOneAboveU
Germany3367 Posts
On August 05 2019 18:50 HsDLTitich wrote: So we're not counting GSL Super Tournaments? :< Conveniently forgetting about championships in favour of a better narrative is SC2 tradition at this point... | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19300 Posts
On August 05 2019 19:27 kajtarp wrote: For me stasis wards look one of the most imba thing sc2 has. One player has to constantly watch the minimap, constantly micro their entire mineral lines, and must even leave units to kill stasis wards, meanwhile what does the other player need to do? Click stasis ward and the location? The difference in how much effort one player has to make defending them, against the effort of the other player who wants to pull it off is beyond huge. It is one of the things, i dislike most in sc2. Not only dislike it, but i find it really boring to watch... So Stats might be one of the nicest guy IRL, but he has one of the most boring and disgusting playstyles. People say hero or sOs plays dirty, but their games are a whole lot more enjoyeable... Imagine if there wasn't an air gap behind the main and natural on maps for air units to camp in. The strategy would not be able to exist and I think Stats would have lost 0-3. Stats played amazing protoss, but he wasn't given the opportunity to scale with Zergs in the mid game without the Oracle Phoenix opening. And the single game where he lost an extra Oracle early, he was severely punished for it. I think what we learned from this is that (without patch changes) Protoss cannot keep pace with Zerg economically unless they design the early phase of their game around heavy harassment or partial allins. And maybe that's intended design by blizzard. Each race has the attack, defend, or harass role at different phases of the game. It's honestly not horrible. After all that harass from Stats it still lead to very hyper and balanced mid games where two equally talented players battled it out in a spectacular manner. | ||
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