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Dark, SpeCial shine at Code S Group Nominations

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Dark, SpeCial shine at Code S Group Nominations

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July 26th, 2019 13:42 GMT

Code S Season 3 Group Nominations: More Wonderful Shenanigans

Written by Wax

The second Code S group nomination of the post-Maru era delivered another entertaining spectacle, with Dark lording over the proceedings like the arrogant, power-drunk #1 seed the AfreecaTV producers must have always wanted. Even if Maru's actions as the #1 seed were quite villainous from the point-of-view of any non-Jin Air player, his humble demeanor made it about as interesting as facing Brood Lord-Infestor. On the other hand, Dark went so far in the opposite direction from 'humble' that by the end, I was wondering 'wait, will there be REAL bad blood after this?'

Here's a look at how things went down as well as my observations from the show:

2019 Global StarCraft II League Season 3 - Code S


THE RULES
• The top four players from the previous Code S are seeded into separate groups (A-D-C-B order based on GSL's internal point system)
• First four picks are made in order of seeding (Group A-D-C-B)
• Remaining eight picks are made in "snake draft" order, starting from Group D (D-C-B-A-A-B-C-D)
• After all picks are made, the #1 seed can swap any player in his group for a non-seeded player in another group.

THE PICKS - (pick order in parentheses)

Group A: Dark --> (1) KeeN --> (8) SpeCial -> (4, SWAP) FanTaSy
Group B: Trap --> (9, SWAP) Cure -> (7) herO --> (10) TY
Group C: Maru --> (3) Solar --> (6) Stats --> (11) Rogue
Group D: Classic -> (2) RagnaroK --> (5) Dear--> (12) Zest

If this still leaves you utterly confused, don't worry: that's pretty normal for anyone who hasn't watched a gazillion of these events.



The full Group Nomination VODs


Wow, Dark finally had a group nomination that didn't suck!

If we were still giving out grades for the group selections, (Wiki)Dark would necessitate the creation of a brand new "S" grade. The previous #1 seeds were essentially given A's by default, as the immense power of having the first overall pick AND the ability to swap for any non-seeded player guaranteed an easy group.

Somehow, Dark managed to create a group that isn't just easy, but might actually be perfect: (Wiki)KeeN, (Wiki)SpeCial, and (Wiki)FanTaSy. Not only does Dark get to practice against Terran only, but those three Terrans are among the four lowest ranked players left in the tournament (going by GSL points). One of those Terrans (SpeCial) happens to be a foreign Terran—incidentally, Dark has a career 100% win-rate against such competition. Another one of those Terrans (FanTaSy) is only a year removed from finishing his mandatory military service, a career impediment no one has ever truly overcome. As for the last Terran (KeeN), the last time he advanced from the Code S Ro16 was in 2011.

Dark did have luck on his side—it's a rare coincidence that the 'easiest' opponents are all from one race. But Dark does deserve credit for recruiting a perfect accomplice/victim in KeeN. Seeing TvT as his best path to the Ro8, KeeN was all too eager to follow Dark's orders and bring SpeCial into the group. No wonder the Korean casters were saying that Keen was Dark's Infested Terran.

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An Infestor and his Terran


Outside the composition of his group, you have to say Dark won this group nomination just because of how much he seemed to enjoy himself during the proceedings. He deigned it beneath himself to even stand-up from his chair to pick KeeN, basically saying 'you know who you are—get over here,' which somehow went over completely fine. While Dark didn't end up matching TY and Maru together as he had previously threatened, he still got to mete out some punishment. When Trap ignored Dark's warning to stay away from his designated Terran targets, he was deftly punished with a team-kill against teammate Cure. On that note...

Jin Air suffers in a post-Maru world

Once the dominating force in the group selections, things became very iffy for Jin Air players once (Wiki)Maru lost his #1 seed. Previously, all the non-Jin Air players were heavily restricted in their range of picks, knowing that any Jin Air team-kill they created would be undone by Maru. Without that protection, Jin Air players have been left having to do contortions to try and avoid a team-kill at all costs. Despite their best efforts, things went particularly poorly for Jin Air this time around: Trap and Cure both ended up in Group B while Maru and Rogue landed in Group C.
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Sadplane expands from LCK to GSL

In (Wiki)Trap's case, he violated Dark's edict to leave FanTaSy alone, and was thus punished by Dark who used his #1 seed privilege to swap (Wiki)Cure for FanTaSy. While Trap might have expected that Dark would simply steal FanTaSy away from his group, he was quite unlucky that the player he got back in return was a teammate. In theory, picking FanTaSy wasn't a suicidal move for Trap. Korean caster Gisado hastily tried to explain the game theory of Dark's situation to the other players: if everyone went after Dark's designated targets, then Dark couldn't protect them all. Unfortunately for Trap, he was the only one that bit, and thus he was the only one that got punished (alongside Cure).

In the case of the Group C, it came down to (Wiki)Stats deciding between (Wiki)Rogue and (Wiki)Zest as the final group member (with Stats, Maru, and Solar already in the group). Jin Air players were quick to remind Stats that he had spent an awful lot of time bumming around their team house as of late, enjoying free meals and lodging. How could Stats even think about team-killing Maru and Rogue after that? Unfortunately for the Jin Air boys, Stats decided to he had to stay loyal to a different team: KT Rolster. Avoiding a team-kill between himself and former KT teammate Zest was Stats' foremost priority (Zest reminded him "you've slept with me way more times!" in a moment of particularly poor phrasing), forcing him to condemn Jin Air to another team-kill.

SpeCial is just the greatest

Way back in the day, GSL used to reward the most entertaining player of the group selections a cash prize. Alas, poor (Wiki)SpeCial. If that award still existed, he would have won it by a landslide.

First off, he killed the pre-recorded video segments where he showed off his limited Korean vocabulary. SpeCial complaining about Terran being under-powered in mixed Korean-English is funny no matter how many times I see it, and by the frequency of such segments, it seems like the GSL producers and Korean audience agree.

Next, SpeCial had the call-out of the night against RagnaroK. During one of the video segments, RagnaroK rather aggressively said he would like to pick SpeCial, bringing up his undefeated record against him in offline matches. However, when it came RagnaroK's turn to pick, he started contemplating other options. SpeCial took exception to his cowardice.


Not just a Dorito, but a FLAMING HOT Dorito.

Now, RagnaroK had good reason to not pick SpeCial, as there was a big risk that Dark would just swap him away. Still, I kind of wished SpeCial had drowned out RagnaroK for the rest of the segment by yelling 'Yeah, keep walking, b****!' at the top of his lungs.

Finally, SpeCial pulled off a funny, perfectly-timed fake-out gag. Occasionally, we'll get a player who tries to create a bit of tension and entertainment by pretending to pick one player, only to change their mind at the last second. This usually sucks, whether it's due to bad acting, poor comedic timing, or just all-around half-assery. SpeCial fully committed to a comedic bit, zealously declaring he was going to pick his long-time friend TY as his opponent. He really made you believe like he felt this was a great idea, and that it would be an honor to play his mentor on such a stage. TY's genuine shock completed the bit, as it looked like he might backpedal his way out of the studio and all the back to Ansan. This one's the hardest to describe in words; I suggest you watch the whole bit.



Credits and acknowledgements

Written by: Wax
Editor: Wax (wow!)
Images: AfreecaTV
Statistics: Aligulac.com

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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 26 2019 13:56 GMT
#2
The one who truly shone was soO who manipulated people into doing what he wanted them to from the casting desk.
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dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
July 26 2019 13:59 GMT
#3
That part wehen TY was running was from Special was by far the best thing I ve sehen in a while
MaxPax
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4955 Posts
July 26 2019 14:05 GMT
#4
Shoutout to the translator and his quick KappaPride reaction to Stats sleeping with TY
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
July 26 2019 14:18 GMT
#5
while the teamkills sux, in the group C it guarantees JAGW players at least one place in the RO8. Right now Maru is the clear favorite and Rogue should come out 2nd. The top 3 players in the group are Rogue, Stats and Maru.
Also let's check the big Zerg traditions
Solar's is to lose RO16 and not advance to RO8(would be nice to continue at least for now )
Rogue's is to lose RO8 - thus he has to advance

It sux for Group B where Cure is the weakest player. But that doesn't change anything for him as he wouldn't have advanced from any other group, the only chance for him was at the Group A and Dark wanted as weak group as possible.

I don't know, I still think that Stats should have picked Zest but I get why he didn't.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-26 14:46:05
July 26 2019 14:45 GMT
#6
On July 26 2019 23:18 deacon.frost wrote:
while the teamkills sux, in the group C it guarantees JAGW players at least one place in the RO8. Right now Maru is the clear favorite and Rogue should come out 2nd. The top 3 players in the group are Rogue, Stats and Maru.
Also let's check the big Zerg traditions
Solar's is to lose RO16 and not advance to RO8(would be nice to continue at least for now )
Rogue's is to lose RO8 - thus he has to advance

Solar has more RO8 exits than RO16 exits. Most of the time he just gets eliminated in the RO32 though.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
July 26 2019 14:55 GMT
#7
Very funny group selections this time around. GG


On July 26 2019 22:56 Elentos wrote:
The one who truly shone was soO who manipulated people into doing what he wanted them to from the casting desk.


Yeah, soO was like the puppet master of the entire proceedings. The true MVP of the show.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
July 26 2019 15:14 GMT
#8
Kudos to Dark for not using all the advantages he got from GSL to make himself a group of death.
TanksALot
Profile Joined December 2002
United States153 Posts
July 26 2019 15:29 GMT
#9
Damn is it really another month until the next round?
Big up
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 26 2019 15:40 GMT
#10
On July 27 2019 00:29 TanksALot wrote:
Damn is it really another month until the next round?

Yeah, they're going on break for ASUS ROG and GSL vs The World.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
July 26 2019 16:49 GMT
#11
I think SpeCial has a shot at making round of 8. KeeN has a chance as well if he is able to play TvT on the same high level as he did in the round of 32.
Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
General_Winter
Profile Joined February 2011
United States719 Posts
July 26 2019 17:43 GMT
#12
Joke’s on Dark. Fantasy is going to return to form any day now and once he does he will be one of the top players in the world. If he ever gets his hyperlfight banshee micro to anything on par with his vulture micro it’s all over for the rest of the world. He’s got one month in the hyperbolic time chamber. Make it happen. Fantasy fighting!
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
July 26 2019 18:20 GMT
#13
You have to love SpeCial, great to have him on the stage.
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
July 26 2019 18:34 GMT
#14
On July 26 2019 23:45 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2019 23:18 deacon.frost wrote:
while the teamkills sux, in the group C it guarantees JAGW players at least one place in the RO8. Right now Maru is the clear favorite and Rogue should come out 2nd. The top 3 players in the group are Rogue, Stats and Maru.
Also let's check the big Zerg traditions
Solar's is to lose RO16 and not advance to RO8(would be nice to continue at least for now )
Rogue's is to lose RO8 - thus he has to advance

Solar has more RO8 exits than RO16 exits. Most of the time he just gets eliminated in the RO32 though.

Let's continue in the great tradition of 2019 and 18? I believe that's where the streak started

On July 27 2019 02:43 General_Winter wrote:
Joke’s on Dark. Fantasy is going to return to form any day now and once he does he will be one of the top players in the world. If he ever gets his hyperlfight banshee micro to anything on par with his vulture micro it’s all over for the rest of the world. He’s got one month in the hyperbolic time chamber. Make it happen. Fantasy fighting!

Yeah, people were saying that about Flash too and I got seriously disappointed. At least he made a record of how many turrets you can build in a top Korean SC2 game.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
July 27 2019 02:56 GMT
#15
On July 26 2019 22:59 dbRic1203 wrote:
That part wehen TY was running was from Special was by far the best thing I ve sehen in a while



This immediately followed by Special getting Dark's attention and motioning him to take Cure out of the group immediately after were fucking gold
Dedraterllaerau
Profile Joined May 2019
113 Posts
July 29 2019 16:04 GMT
#16
I didn't watch what did they shine at? The ability to whine about Protoss and how bad their race is ? :D
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
July 29 2019 20:12 GMT
#17
SpeCial won this group nominations for sure! It was hilarious, thanks for linking that TY pick and switch, so funny =)
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
texture13
Profile Joined July 2018
44 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-01 00:49:55
August 01 2019 00:48 GMT
#18
On July 30 2019 01:04 Dedraterllaerau wrote:
I didn't watch what did they shine at? The ability to whine about Protoss and how bad their race is ? :D


Special's whining powers were on full display. Protoss got nerfed. His next goal is to get Zerg nerfed into the ground.
It was a pretty funny Group Nomination though.
insidiousapricot
Profile Joined February 2016
11 Posts
August 07 2019 21:29 GMT
#19
It was funny when TY was like if you pick me you won't be getting any more help
GarbageG
Profile Joined September 2019
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-04 18:05:32
September 04 2019 18:02 GMT
#20
I understand that Dark threatened Maru so that he didnt pick any of the terran, but why didnt he let Maru pick Stats or any toss at all? What am I missing?
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