On April 26 2019 09:13 NinjaNight wrote: Being all in one day...
1) Takes away from the tension and hype of the tournament for the viewers. It finishes so quick and everyone is like "thats it?"
2) Very tiring for the players leading to lower quality games and cheapens the tournament
3) Drains the audience because everything is crammed into one very long day. Doesn't feel like an actual tournament.
4) There's no real build up to and no anticipation for the finals because it feels like a normal day 1 of a tournament and regular matches are going by one by one relentlessly until suddenly it's the finals already! A finals on day 1?!
5) Most of the viewers will probably be left unsatisfied.
Conclusion: Just spread out the tournament over more than one day. Even just two days would make a large difference if you really need to cram it.
We'll see if a one day tournament turns out to be better than expected, but this seems to be how it would go. I don't see how this could possibly hope to live up to last year's Blizzcon.
Hope it's not the last blizzcon for sc2 but they don't improve quality of the global final. Plus it's sad to see how they try to sell us these kind of changes like improvements...
On April 26 2019 09:13 NinjaNight wrote: Being all in one day...
1) Takes away from the tension and hype of the tournament for the viewers. It finishes so quick and everyone is like "thats it?" Won't feel quick if the games are tight and go to ace matches
2) Very tiring for the players leading to lower quality games and cheapens the tournament Way more games are played in one day trying to get to the bracket stage in IEM. In a round of 8 you only play three players if you make it through the finals. That's nothing compared to the ladder practice. And there is a ton of break time between matches (plus stream delays lol)
3) Drains the audience because everything is crammed into one very long day. Doesn't feel like an actual tournament. It's no different then MLG/Dreamhack/IEM in terms of audience stamina. If you love SC2 this will just be purely a fun day. Pace yourself and don't start the day chugging the free energy drinks :D
4) There's no real build up to and no anticipation for the finals because it feels like a normal day 1 of a tournament and regular matches are going by one by one relentlessly until suddenly it's the finals already! A finals on day 1?! Honestly, sometimes I hate when it's just the finals on the next day. Waiting nearly 24 hrs for a possible 4-0. I also think momentum plays a huge factor. And sometimes sleeping off a good day makes you lose your edge.
5) Most of the viewers will probably be left unsatisfied. I think this is a baseless statement. I'm almost never dissatisfied with a day of non stop SC1 or SC2
Conclusion: Just spread out the tournament over more than one day. Even just two days would make a large difference if you really need to cram it.
We'll see if a one day tournament turns out to be better than expected, but this seems to be how it would go. I don't see how this could possibly hope to live up to last year's Blizzcon.
Maybe I'm in the minority, but I'm super excited to see this format. And every year Blizzcon seems to deliver in it's own unique way, so I wouldn't try to base your enjoyment of this year on last years Blizzcon.
On April 26 2019 09:13 NinjaNight wrote: Being all in one day...
1) Takes away from the tension and hype of the tournament for the viewers. It finishes so quick and everyone is like "thats it?" Won't feel quick if the games are tight and go to ace matches
2) Very tiring for the players leading to lower quality games and cheapens the tournament Way more games are played in one day trying to get to the bracket stage in IEM. In a round of 8 you only play three players if you make it through the finals. That's nothing compared to the ladder practice. And there is a ton of break time between matches (plus stream delays lol)
3) Drains the audience because everything is crammed into one very long day. Doesn't feel like an actual tournament. It's no different then MLG/Dreamhack/IEM in terms of audience stamina. If you love SC2 this will just be purely a fun day. Pace yourself and don't start the day chugging the free energy drinks :D
4) There's no real build up to and no anticipation for the finals because it feels like a normal day 1 of a tournament and regular matches are going by one by one relentlessly until suddenly it's the finals already! A finals on day 1?! Honestly, sometimes I hate when it's just the finals on the next day. Waiting nearly 24 hrs for a possible 4-0. I also think momentum plays a huge factor. And sometimes sleeping off a good day makes you lose your edge.
5) Most of the viewers will probably be left unsatisfied. I think this is a baseless statement. I'm almost never dissatisfied with a day of non stop SC1 or SC2
Conclusion: Just spread out the tournament over more than one day. Even just two days would make a large difference if you really need to cram it.
We'll see if a one day tournament turns out to be better than expected, but this seems to be how it would go. I don't see how this could possibly hope to live up to last year's Blizzcon.
Maybe I'm in the minority, but I'm super excited to see this format. And every year Blizzcon seems to deliver in it's own unique way, so I wouldn't try to base your enjoyment of this year on last years Blizzcon.
The format would be fine for a saturday IMO, if it's truly Friday, RIP.
Maybe I'm in the minority, but I'm super excited to see this format. And every year Blizzcon seems to deliver in it's own unique way, so I wouldn't try to base your enjoyment of this year on last years Blizzcon.
On April 26 2019 22:20 BisuDagger wrote: Here's my positive perspective:
On April 26 2019 09:13 NinjaNight wrote: Being all in one day...
1) Takes away from the tension and hype of the tournament for the viewers. It finishes so quick and everyone is like "thats it?" Won't feel quick if the games are tight and go to ace matches
2) Very tiring for the players leading to lower quality games and cheapens the tournament Way more games are played in one day trying to get to the bracket stage in IEM. In a round of 8 you only play three players if you make it through the finals. That's nothing compared to the ladder practice. And there is a ton of break time between matches (plus stream delays lol)
3) Drains the audience because everything is crammed into one very long day. Doesn't feel like an actual tournament. It's no different then MLG/Dreamhack/IEM in terms of audience stamina. If you love SC2 this will just be purely a fun day. Pace yourself and don't start the day chugging the free energy drinks :D
4) There's no real build up to and no anticipation for the finals because it feels like a normal day 1 of a tournament and regular matches are going by one by one relentlessly until suddenly it's the finals already! A finals on day 1?! Honestly, sometimes I hate when it's just the finals on the next day. Waiting nearly 24 hrs for a possible 4-0. I also think momentum plays a huge factor. And sometimes sleeping off a good day makes you lose your edge.
5) Most of the viewers will probably be left unsatisfied. I think this is a baseless statement. I'm almost never dissatisfied with a day of non stop SC1 or SC2
Conclusion: Just spread out the tournament over more than one day. Even just two days would make a large difference if you really need to cram it.
We'll see if a one day tournament turns out to be better than expected, but this seems to be how it would go. I don't see how this could possibly hope to live up to last year's Blizzcon.
Maybe I'm in the minority, but I'm super excited to see this format. And every year Blizzcon seems to deliver in it's own unique way, so I wouldn't try to base your enjoyment of this year on last years Blizzcon.
The format would be fine for a saturday IMO, if it's truly Friday, RIP.
On April 26 2019 22:20 BisuDagger wrote: Here's my positive perspective:
On April 26 2019 09:13 NinjaNight wrote: Being all in one day...
1) Takes away from the tension and hype of the tournament for the viewers. It finishes so quick and everyone is like "thats it?" Won't feel quick if the games are tight and go to ace matches
2) Very tiring for the players leading to lower quality games and cheapens the tournament Way more games are played in one day trying to get to the bracket stage in IEM. In a round of 8 you only play three players if you make it through the finals. That's nothing compared to the ladder practice. And there is a ton of break time between matches (plus stream delays lol)
3) Drains the audience because everything is crammed into one very long day. Doesn't feel like an actual tournament. It's no different then MLG/Dreamhack/IEM in terms of audience stamina. If you love SC2 this will just be purely a fun day. Pace yourself and don't start the day chugging the free energy drinks :D
4) There's no real build up to and no anticipation for the finals because it feels like a normal day 1 of a tournament and regular matches are going by one by one relentlessly until suddenly it's the finals already! A finals on day 1?! Honestly, sometimes I hate when it's just the finals on the next day. Waiting nearly 24 hrs for a possible 4-0. I also think momentum plays a huge factor. And sometimes sleeping off a good day makes you lose your edge.
5) Most of the viewers will probably be left unsatisfied. I think this is a baseless statement. I'm almost never dissatisfied with a day of non stop SC1 or SC2
Conclusion: Just spread out the tournament over more than one day. Even just two days would make a large difference if you really need to cram it.
We'll see if a one day tournament turns out to be better than expected, but this seems to be how it would go. I don't see how this could possibly hope to live up to last year's Blizzcon.
Maybe I'm in the minority, but I'm super excited to see this format. And every year Blizzcon seems to deliver in it's own unique way, so I wouldn't try to base your enjoyment of this year on last years Blizzcon.
The format would be fine for a saturday IMO, if it's truly Friday, RIP.
Is it really a Friday ?? Really ?
Just realised this as well. Blizzcon is November 1st and 2nd. 1st is a Friday. Day one (as stated in the topic) would indeed be Friday.... FU Blizz
EDIT: And then I realised November first is a holiday.... WHOOOOOP LOVE IT <3 GERMANY RULEZ
On April 26 2019 22:20 BisuDagger wrote: Here's my positive perspective:
On April 26 2019 09:13 NinjaNight wrote: Being all in one day...
1) Takes away from the tension and hype of the tournament for the viewers. It finishes so quick and everyone is like "thats it?" Won't feel quick if the games are tight and go to ace matches
2) Very tiring for the players leading to lower quality games and cheapens the tournament Way more games are played in one day trying to get to the bracket stage in IEM. In a round of 8 you only play three players if you make it through the finals. That's nothing compared to the ladder practice. And there is a ton of break time between matches (plus stream delays lol)
3) Drains the audience because everything is crammed into one very long day. Doesn't feel like an actual tournament. It's no different then MLG/Dreamhack/IEM in terms of audience stamina. If you love SC2 this will just be purely a fun day. Pace yourself and don't start the day chugging the free energy drinks :D
4) There's no real build up to and no anticipation for the finals because it feels like a normal day 1 of a tournament and regular matches are going by one by one relentlessly until suddenly it's the finals already! A finals on day 1?! Honestly, sometimes I hate when it's just the finals on the next day. Waiting nearly 24 hrs for a possible 4-0. I also think momentum plays a huge factor. And sometimes sleeping off a good day makes you lose your edge.
5) Most of the viewers will probably be left unsatisfied. I think this is a baseless statement. I'm almost never dissatisfied with a day of non stop SC1 or SC2
Conclusion: Just spread out the tournament over more than one day. Even just two days would make a large difference if you really need to cram it.
We'll see if a one day tournament turns out to be better than expected, but this seems to be how it would go. I don't see how this could possibly hope to live up to last year's Blizzcon.
Maybe I'm in the minority, but I'm super excited to see this format. And every year Blizzcon seems to deliver in it's own unique way, so I wouldn't try to base your enjoyment of this year on last years Blizzcon.
The format would be fine for a saturday IMO, if it's truly Friday, RIP.
Is it really a Friday ?? Really ?
Just realised this as well. Blizzcon is November 1st and 2nd. 1st is a Friday. Day one (as stated in the topic) would indeed be Friday.... FU Blizz
EDIT: And then I realised November first is a holiday.... WHOOOOOP LOVE IT <3 GERMANY RULEZ
That's right holidays to in France (for civil-servants at least). Finally a good new!
On April 26 2019 11:11 burnturn wrote: Maybe getting the big stage back will make sOs win again.
First he should worry about qualifying.
I dunno about having everything in one day. I mean I'm used to watching the grand finals of Blizzcon for SC2 at like 2 am. But with delays and everything accounted for, if there's only 1 match at any given time I can probably wake up to watch the finals at 8 am.
On April 27 2019 00:17 Popparockz wrote: Why would they cram so much into the first day? The finals was crazy successful last year so I can't imagine what would bring on this change.
They cannot rely on having a foreigner in there. Consider the fact that SC2 @ Blizzcon isn't watched only by SC2 people as Blizzcon is not only about SC2 finals.
I don't know why they're doing this, doesn't make any sense, but Blizzard doesn't make any sense from the Diablo session at the last Blizzcon, so what do we actually expect?
On April 26 2019 06:42 Xamo wrote: I don't know if I am missing something, but this seems ok for me. SC2 gets back to the Arena, instead of having its own separated space. The R08 and onwards played out entirely on day 1 is probably a step back, but it actually may make the timing better for us europeans.
More likely its worse for us. There will be delays, there are always delays.
Maybe is not so bad for Spain but for Finland :D
That friday is holiday in Spain and in Germany. I had assumed it was in the whole continent... my bad.
On April 26 2019 06:42 Xamo wrote: I don't know if I am missing something, but this seems ok for me. SC2 gets back to the Arena, instead of having its own separated space. The R08 and onwards played out entirely on day 1 is probably a step back, but it actually may make the timing better for us europeans.
More likely its worse for us. There will be delays, there are always delays.
Maybe is not so bad for Spain but for Finland :D
That friday is holiday in Spain and in Germany. I had assumed it was in the whole continent... my bad.
Edit: It is holiday also in France
November 1st not even a holiday for the majority of Germany.
The matches will be long, the players might be too tired to play well by the time the finals start, and the audience will probably be burnt out by the time the finals start. BUT -- do you guys not have phones twitch vods?
EPT
