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2019 WCS Global Finals info (venue, reduced days) - Page 2

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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8990 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-26 02:20:14
April 26 2019 02:19 GMT
#21
Edit:Nvm I'm dumb
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Orlok
Profile Joined June 2014
Korea (South)227 Posts
April 26 2019 02:24 GMT
#22
On April 26 2019 06:46 Chris_Havoc wrote:
6 Bo5's and the Bo7 Finals in one day could be a scheduling nightmare if any technical issues arise. Event would need to start very early in the morning to get it all in within say 12-14 hours.

Indeed.

4 for the round of eight, 2 for the round of four and one best of seven....
Unless they all end up in sweeps it'll be too painful of a marathon run to even contemplate hype.
Not a decision I like at all. Its bad enough we're the tiny old uncle compared to Overwatch in terms of viewership, but now they're not giving us the time to put up a decent tournament.

one best of 5 would if done via sweep clock into around 45-50 minutes with a break or two perhaps and assuming there's no early do or die bust cheese and it'd probably clock an hour or more if it goes the full way. A best of 7 no matter how fast it goes will definitely go over the hour, perhaps even 2 if it hits the full 4:3 score. thats looking at a max time of perhaps 8 hours of continued game time, adding an hour with breaks to hit 9 hours of continued sc2 (which could hit longer depending on the games and the match outcomes).

Blizzcon isn't the super tournament, we shouldn't have to grind 4-5 best of fives on the biggest stage of the year.
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
April 26 2019 02:26 GMT
#23
This is dumb.
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8990 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-26 02:30:08
April 26 2019 02:28 GMT
#24
On April 26 2019 11:24 Orlok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2019 06:46 Chris_Havoc wrote:
6 Bo5's and the Bo7 Finals in one day could be a scheduling nightmare if any technical issues arise. Event would need to start very early in the morning to get it all in within say 12-14 hours.

Indeed.

4 for the round of eight, 2 for the round of four and one best of seven....
Unless they all end up in sweeps it'll be too painful of a marathon run to even contemplate hype.
Not a decision I like at all. Its bad enough we're the tiny old uncle compared to Overwatch in terms of viewership, but now they're not giving us the time to put up a decent tournament.

one best of 5 would if done via sweep clock into around 45-50 minutes with a break or two perhaps and assuming there's no early do or die bust cheese and it'd probably clock an hour or more if it goes the full way. A best of 7 no matter how fast it goes will definitely go over the hour, perhaps even 2 if it hits the full 4:3 score. thats looking at a max time of perhaps 8 hours of continued game time, adding an hour with breaks to hit 9 hours of continued sc2 (which could hit longer depending on the games and the match outcomes).

Blizzcon isn't the super tournament, we shouldn't have to grind 4-5 best of fives on the biggest stage of the year.


Could be 2 stream for the round of 8, but honestly I think the WCS are generaly hype enough and those have the same number of matches.
May not be ideal but it's certainly not catastrophic IMO, especially if it mean we don't have to compete vs OW.
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brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
April 26 2019 02:58 GMT
#25
you can talk all you want about how it's a "bad decision" but the reality no one wants to accept is that Blizzard just thinks there are better uses of time than maximizing the quality of the SC2 finals. doesn't mean dedgaem, it means exactly what it means, take it or leave it
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yubo56
Profile Joined May 2014
690 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-26 03:24:07
April 26 2019 03:23 GMT
#26
Did they say ro8 and 4 are bo5? and finals bo7? Maybe that's how they're planning to fit into one day which would suck.

I would rather have AB stream and parallel games than cut series length, fingers crossed
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33603 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-26 04:24:21
April 26 2019 03:27 GMT
#27
thinking about the 'prestige' of hall vs arena is a really bad case of missing the forest while looking at a tree; the cutdown to one day is an enormous, impactful change to the competitive and viewer side of the tournament. To be fair, RO8-> Finals in one day is how WCS Circuit tournaments have been done, and while they're a bit of marathon, it's doable within reasonable-ish time (if you think 6~8 hours is reasonable). But it's definitely a meaningful change to how the Global Finals has been run previously, and very different from how any Korean tournament is run.
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Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-26 03:46:53
April 26 2019 03:46 GMT
#28
So even if the matches start at 9 AM PDT, with 1.5 hours per Bo5, the finals are going to start no earlier than 3 AM in Europe. Not the best way to increase viewership. The conspiracy theorist in me wants to say that this is intentional, so that Blizzard can justify cutting WCS by pointing to the lowered viewership.
JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-26 05:57:37
April 26 2019 05:56 GMT
#29
Wait, what? At first I thought they're talking about the Ro8 only. So Ro4 is played the day after but now I get it, they want to play out all the remaining matches on this day. That sucks.

Edit: Not surprised to be honest, as some of us already suggested this might be last year of SC2/WCS ever.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-26 06:23:47
April 26 2019 06:23 GMT
#30
Disappointing, but its blizzard so can't be surprised these days. Guess everyone in Europe is going to be staying up till 4am.
PharaphobiaSC
Profile Joined April 2016
Czech Republic457 Posts
April 26 2019 06:32 GMT
#31
If you look around every big game for them has its own day this BlizzCon so I have no idea why ppl things that SC2 is so priviledged to have 2 days...

Whole BlizzCon schedule is being changed so... just roll with it. I wouldn't be suprised if they shut it down after 9 years, but also i would not be suprised if they shut it down because they never got positive feedback in 9 years...
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-26 08:01:51
April 26 2019 07:54 GMT
#32
Opening Week, as usual, will see the Top 8 point-earners from both the WCS Circuit and WCS Korea fight it out to make the overall WCS Top 8. We will share more regarding the epic finale of WCS 2019 soon, but wanted to let fans know that this year StarCraft II’s Opening Week will not take place at Blizzard Arena. This year, Opening Week will be hosted somewhere quite different. Keep an eye on @esportstarcraft for updates—we think it’s very exciting and can’t wait to share it with you!

This is good, it can't be more soulless than that no audience studio they had last few years. Though maybe it'll be something gimmicky like spacex headquarters or something.

Alternatively they should host it on the place on earth that has europeans and koreans have exactly the same amount of timezone issues so we can finally put jetlag argument to bed.
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XDEKSDEEXD
Profile Joined June 2013
622 Posts
April 26 2019 08:29 GMT
#33
I dont know what to make out of this.....but as long as SC2 grows or at least maintains its popularity, I am a happy man.....
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2106 Posts
April 26 2019 08:49 GMT
#34
way to kill the hype, what with the noticeable growth in viewership :/

still, could be worse I guess
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Kimb3r
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany744 Posts
April 26 2019 08:58 GMT
#35
Sad story...
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
April 26 2019 09:00 GMT
#36
On April 26 2019 12:46 Solar424 wrote:
So even if the matches start at 9 AM PDT, with 1.5 hours per Bo5, the finals are going to start no earlier than 3 AM in Europe. Not the best way to increase viewership. The conspiracy theorist in me wants to say that this is intentional, so that Blizzard can justify cutting WCS by pointing to the lowered viewership.

Ah, that's the math then, so I'm skipping it. No chance I'm watching Blizzcon this late.
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JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-26 09:14:14
April 26 2019 09:13 GMT
#37
On April 26 2019 18:00 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2019 12:46 Solar424 wrote:
So even if the matches start at 9 AM PDT, with 1.5 hours per Bo5, the finals are going to start no earlier than 3 AM in Europe. Not the best way to increase viewership. The conspiracy theorist in me wants to say that this is intentional, so that Blizzard can justify cutting WCS by pointing to the lowered viewership.

Ah, that's the math then, so I'm skipping it. No chance I'm watching Blizzcon this late.


Wouldn't be suprised if they'd actually play 2 games at once in the Ro8. Saves them a couple of hours.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
April 26 2019 09:18 GMT
#38
On April 26 2019 18:13 JoeCool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2019 18:00 deacon.frost wrote:
On April 26 2019 12:46 Solar424 wrote:
So even if the matches start at 9 AM PDT, with 1.5 hours per Bo5, the finals are going to start no earlier than 3 AM in Europe. Not the best way to increase viewership. The conspiracy theorist in me wants to say that this is intentional, so that Blizzard can justify cutting WCS by pointing to the lowered viewership.

Ah, that's the math then, so I'm skipping it. No chance I'm watching Blizzcon this late.


Wouldn't be suprised if they'd actually play 2 games at once in the Ro8. Saves them a couple of hours.

Maybe that could lead to the 2013 JD fiasco again
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fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4083 Posts
April 26 2019 09:39 GMT
#39
Question is, will the RO16 be in Seoul?
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Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
April 26 2019 09:41 GMT
#40
Top 8 all in one day? Get ready for another Zerg win
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