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Ej_
47656 Posts
On February 15 2019 20:36 MockHamill wrote: If SC2 e-sports dies, maybe they can start balance the game around normal ladder players instead of the top 0.01% of the playerbase. I appreciate you always find an opportunity to remind everyone that mech vs protoss is too weak in diamond league | ||
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Comedy
469 Posts
On February 16 2019 05:11 Ej_ wrote: I appreciate you always find an opportunity to remind everyone that mech vs protoss is too weak in diamond league LOL. That's hits the nail on the head regarding this user so hard. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17894 Posts
On February 16 2019 05:11 Ej_ wrote: I appreciate you always find an opportunity to remind everyone that mech vs protoss is too weak in diamond league I find Mech is easier to use in Diamond League. This is because spending all money is an issue for us Diamond leaguers whereas building the economy and expanding on schedule is usually successfully executed at the Diamond League level. Its easier for me to pump out 4 Tanks and 2 Goliaths on time, every time.. than it is to pump out 16 marines and 1 drop ship and 1 viking. I think by playing Mech I'm able to place higher in Diamond League than when I play Bio. The game is "balanced enough" for me. Any diverse race game will never be perfectly balanced for 125 APM people who make 1/4 the # of decisions the top 0.01% make. Its fine with me. Blizz should keep balancing the game for the top players. Even if we assume Terran is disadvantaged in Diamond League all this means is that occasionally I'll lose a game to a person I am probably "better than". Meh so what. I consider it part of the challenge. | ||
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ihatevideogames
570 Posts
On February 16 2019 06:11 JimmyJRaynor wrote: I find Mech is easier to use in Diamond League. This is because spending all money is an issue for us Diamond leaguers whereas building the economy and expanding on schedule is usually successfully executed at the Diamond League level. Its easier for me to pump out 4 Tanks and 2 Goliaths on time, every time.. than it is to pump out 16 marines and 1 drop ship and 1 viking. I think by playing Mech I'm able to place higher in Diamond League than when I play Bio. The game is "balanced enough" for me. Any diverse race game will never be perfectly balanced for 125 APM people who make 1/4 the # of decisions the top 0.01% make. Its fine with me. Blizz should keep balancing the game for the top players. Even if we assume Terran is disadvantaged in Diamond League all this means is that occasionally I'll lose a game to a person I am probably "better than". Meh so what. I consider it part of the challenge. Where do you draw the line though? 50% in Korean level, everything else be damned? What if the game is 50% across the board on the pro level, but so imbalanced in lower levels that people just stop playing? Not saying we are anywhere near something like this, just a reminder that this line of thinking enabled the Infestor/BL era that literally almost killed the game. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16101 Posts
On February 16 2019 06:11 JimmyJRaynor wrote: I find Mech is easier to use in Diamond League. This is because spending all money is an issue for us Diamond leaguers whereas building the economy and expanding on schedule is usually successfully executed at the Diamond League level. Its easier for me to pump out 4 Tanks and 2 Goliaths on time, every time.. than it is to pump out 16 marines and 1 drop ship and 1 viking. I think by playing Mech I'm able to place higher in Diamond League than when I play Bio. The game is "balanced enough" for me. Any diverse race game will never be perfectly balanced for 125 APM people who make 1/4 the # of decisions the top 0.01% make. Its fine with me. Blizz should keep balancing the game for the top players. Even if we assume Terran is disadvantaged in Diamond League all this means is that occasionally I'll lose a game to a person I am probably "better than". Meh so what. I consider it part of the challenge. I think pumping out 4 tanks and 2 goliaths is pretty hard in sc2. If you can do that i'm impressed | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17894 Posts
On February 16 2019 06:40 ihatevideogames wrote: Where do you draw the line though? 50% in Korean level, everything else be damned? What if the game is 50% across the board on the pro level, but so imbalanced in lower levels that people just stop playing? Not saying we are anywhere near something like this, just a reminder that this line of thinking enabled the Infestor/BL era that literally almost killed the game. this has nothing to do with the Infestor/BL thing which may or may not have been winning every top level event. Blizzard needs to balance the game at the top level. So if 1 strat is dominating every top level event and 1 race is winning everything with that 1 composition every time .. then Blizz needs to do something about it. If BL/Infestor is dominating Diamond league.. those players will just get promoted to Masters. | ||
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BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
On February 16 2019 06:51 Charoisaur wrote: I think pumping out 4 tanks and 2 goliaths is pretty hard in sc2. If you can do that i'm impressed Speshul tactics 2.0  | ||
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ihatevideogames
570 Posts
On February 16 2019 07:02 JimmyJRaynor wrote: this has nothing to do with the Infestor/BL thing which may or may not have been winning every top level event. Blizzard needs to balance the game at the top level. So if 1 strat is dominating every top level event and 1 race is winning everything with that 1 composition every time .. then Blizz needs to do something about it. If BL/Infestor is dominating Diamond league.. those players will just get promoted to Masters. You kinda missed my point completely. You probably were around the BL/festor era. Winrates weren't that bad actually, the game was pretty close to being balanced ON PAPER from what I remember. But A SHITON of people quit the game over it Now, and I'm gonna stress that because people tend to sperg out, I'm not saying the game is currently unbalanced, but IF it was unbalanced to a point where lower tier players were mass leaving the game, while the winrates were all nice clean 50s in the top 1%, what should be done then? People tend to talk in extremes when it comes to balance. Noone's suggesting that the game should be balanced around Diamon or Plat, but without Diamonds and Plats you ain't got any viewers, you ain't got no WCS, no warchest extra money, etc etc. | ||
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AntiHack
Switzerland553 Posts
On February 14 2019 09:29 narbsncharbs wrote: While it is sad people are out of a job, i'm glad that actiblizz is reallocating those funds---into game development. Actiblizz releases a new cod every year and it makes over a billion dollars every year every time. I would love to see that with other actiblizz ips. I'd be so busy I wouldn't have any time to look at other games from other companies. Hope they gear things up hard and have a dedicated team for each franchise instead of all that shuffling around nonsense they've been doing the last several years. That wouldn't be Blizzard. If you wanna that company to lose his soul for ever go ahead. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20344 Posts
I find Mech is easier to use in Diamond League. This is because spending all money is an issue for us Diamond leaguers whereas building the economy and expanding on schedule is usually successfully executed at the Diamond League level. Gotta disagree on that, played through it recently and the consistent failure to build scv's, depots, expansions and production "on time" is probably the biggest thing making people diamond and not masters | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
On February 16 2019 06:51 Charoisaur wrote: I think pumping out 4 tanks and 2 goliaths is pretty hard in sc2. If you can do that i'm impressed This is why we should have all moved to Starbow. | ||
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craz3d
Bulgaria856 Posts
On February 16 2019 05:00 Sabu113 wrote: Not good at all. I hope this means we'll still be able to see Artosis and tasteless viable in Korea and able to cast the ASL/KSL.  To what extent is ASL financially supported by Blizzard? | ||
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AntiHack
Switzerland553 Posts
On February 16 2019 20:02 craz3d wrote: To what extent is ASL financially supported by Blizzard? Not much. AfreecaTV actually pay Blizzard to host tournaments. | ||
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CrymeaTerran
149 Posts
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
On February 15 2019 20:36 MockHamill wrote: If SC2 e-sports dies, maybe they can start balance the game around normal ladder players instead of the top 0.01% of the playerbase. sounds more like "mimimi p to strong" then anything else... the game should be balanced for the good players always ... but they DO look at general players, its just alot of people live in their bubble believing in stuff like that p and shit | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17894 Posts
On February 14 2019 09:10 BigFan wrote: "Nearly 14 years ago i joined @Blizzard_Ent ." ouch, that must really hurt. to add to ur point.... Investment people are noticing the fact that long term veterans who have a deep understanding of Blizzard. its customers, and executing their role.... are being laid off. They are contrasting this with the layoff of 2012 which was merely customer service reps due to a decline in WoW subscribers. https://seekingalpha.com/article/4244058-activision-blizzard-losing-voice "Highlighted by the loss of community manager Fangtooth, formerly employee number 127 and 15-year veteran of the company, the loss of expertise in the recent restructuring is becoming evident. Loosing the most experienced people who fully understand the company and the role they perform, in a role that is likely to be of greater importance moving forward (community management), is in the authors opinion an unnecessary risk by ATVI moving forward." ya, so.. this ain't good. On February 16 2019 14:35 Cyro wrote: Gotta disagree on that, played through it recently and the consistent failure to build scv's, depots, expansions and production "on time" is probably the biggest thing making people diamond and not masters i find it easier to spend all my money when i'm building 4+ tank/thors per "macro round". | ||
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