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This thread will remain open for now, but we will keep a close eye on it. If it turns to shit, then we won't hesitate to kill it.
yuisaka
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia76 Posts
January 26 2019 13:05 GMT
#81
On January 26 2019 21:59 Luolis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2019 21:51 yuisaka wrote:
On January 26 2019 21:32 Nakajin wrote:
On January 26 2019 21:25 yuisaka wrote:
On January 26 2019 19:50 DieuCure wrote:
I see that there are many who dont know the word frustration here, and who are so perfect that they never say anything bad in private.


This is not the excuse to be a racist and antifeminism. Even the message is private the players are not and no matter who said this in any occasion will lost their job easily


Actually you probably won't lose your job for it, you could argue something like a damage to a company reputation but most of the time outside of work diffamation isn't a legal reason to fire someone, at least not in Canada. Of course you can just find another reason to fire the employe anyway.
But pro player aren't really employe and esport contract are garbage anyway.



Maybe not in Canada but in modern society don‘t have any space for racist or antifeminism. We can find thousands and thousands examples that people saying shlt in social media and lose their jobs. Pro players are public figure they have much more responsibility to keep their thinking positive and what TIME said is lower than the bottom line that society can accept

> Canada
> not modern society

choose one :D



If Canada allow those kind of behaviours, in my mind Canada is more like North Korea or some area in Africa/Asia
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Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7137 Posts
January 26 2019 13:05 GMT
#82
On January 26 2019 22:05 yuisaka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2019 21:59 Luolis wrote:
On January 26 2019 21:51 yuisaka wrote:
On January 26 2019 21:32 Nakajin wrote:
On January 26 2019 21:25 yuisaka wrote:
On January 26 2019 19:50 DieuCure wrote:
I see that there are many who dont know the word frustration here, and who are so perfect that they never say anything bad in private.


This is not the excuse to be a racist and antifeminism. Even the message is private the players are not and no matter who said this in any occasion will lost their job easily


Actually you probably won't lose your job for it, you could argue something like a damage to a company reputation but most of the time outside of work diffamation isn't a legal reason to fire someone, at least not in Canada. Of course you can just find another reason to fire the employe anyway.
But pro player aren't really employe and esport contract are garbage anyway.



Maybe not in Canada but in modern society don‘t have any space for racist or antifeminism. We can find thousands and thousands examples that people saying shlt in social media and lose their jobs. Pro players are public figure they have much more responsibility to keep their thinking positive and what TIME said is lower than the bottom line that society can accept

> Canada
> not modern society

choose one :D



If Canada allow those kind of behaviours, in my mind Canada is more like North Korea or some area in Africa/Asia

:D alright.

btw who's alt are you?5 posts and all in this one topic
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yuisaka
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia76 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-26 13:09:59
January 26 2019 13:09 GMT
#83
On January 26 2019 22:05 Luolis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2019 22:05 yuisaka wrote:
On January 26 2019 21:59 Luolis wrote:
On January 26 2019 21:51 yuisaka wrote:
On January 26 2019 21:32 Nakajin wrote:
On January 26 2019 21:25 yuisaka wrote:
On January 26 2019 19:50 DieuCure wrote:
I see that there are many who dont know the word frustration here, and who are so perfect that they never say anything bad in private.


This is not the excuse to be a racist and antifeminism. Even the message is private the players are not and no matter who said this in any occasion will lost their job easily


Actually you probably won't lose your job for it, you could argue something like a damage to a company reputation but most of the time outside of work diffamation isn't a legal reason to fire someone, at least not in Canada. Of course you can just find another reason to fire the employe anyway.
But pro player aren't really employe and esport contract are garbage anyway.



Maybe not in Canada but in modern society don‘t have any space for racist or antifeminism. We can find thousands and thousands examples that people saying shlt in social media and lose their jobs. Pro players are public figure they have much more responsibility to keep their thinking positive and what TIME said is lower than the bottom line that society can accept

> Canada
> not modern society

choose one :D



If Canada allow those kind of behaviours, in my mind Canada is more like North Korea or some area in Africa/Asia

:D alright.

btw who's alt are you?5 posts and all in this one topic



I feel offended as a normal human thats why I post my point,I dont really post mean less posts also I registered in 2011
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jy_9876543210
Profile Joined March 2016
265 Posts
January 26 2019 13:15 GMT
#84
On January 26 2019 21:59 gpanda.sc2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2019 18:11 jy_9876543210 wrote:
On January 26 2019 13:58 gpanda.sc2 wrote:
Administrator, please delete this post and ban that newly registered account.

The title has nothing to do with the post content and the private chat cannot be proved to be true.This post is just malicious to frame some Chinese players. Very low.

From an account which also "Joined January 2019"


This is not funny, I changed my computer recently and forget the password of my old account, so re-register a new one on Jan. 20. The OP author registered today is apparently just for this post.

I am from China but not a Time fan at all, I don't follow any SC2 player except TY. This OP has many vulgar Chinese words, any normal adult knows Chinese will feel offensive and embarrassed when see those, not to mention underage youngsters.

Even if the post is not to be removed, it should at least fold the private chat and add age-restricted warning, if this is a serious forum.


Oh, so now you say it's because it's offensive, and it should be hidden.
But what you said before was
"Administrator, please delete this post and ban that newly registered account.
The title has nothing to do with the post content and the private chat cannot be proved to be true.This post is just malicious to frame some Chinese players. Very low."
so I can safely say that you claiming that "I changed my computer recently and forget the password of my old account, so re-register a new one on Jan. 20. The OP author registered today is apparently just for this post. " definitely cannot be proved to be true. So your new reply was just a distraction from the actual discussion, so that the topic will be deleted after all.
Well, anyways, I have a lot of my threads removed for weird reasons, so whatever. It's just a game. I shouldn't be too serious about this.
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-26 13:26:44
January 26 2019 13:22 GMT
#85
On January 26 2019 22:05 yuisaka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2019 21:59 Luolis wrote:
On January 26 2019 21:51 yuisaka wrote:
On January 26 2019 21:32 Nakajin wrote:
On January 26 2019 21:25 yuisaka wrote:
On January 26 2019 19:50 DieuCure wrote:
I see that there are many who dont know the word frustration here, and who are so perfect that they never say anything bad in private.


This is not the excuse to be a racist and antifeminism. Even the message is private the players are not and no matter who said this in any occasion will lost their job easily


Actually you probably won't lose your job for it, you could argue something like a damage to a company reputation but most of the time outside of work diffamation isn't a legal reason to fire someone, at least not in Canada. Of course you can just find another reason to fire the employe anyway.
But pro player aren't really employe and esport contract are garbage anyway.



Maybe not in Canada but in modern society don‘t have any space for racist or antifeminism. We can find thousands and thousands examples that people saying shlt in social media and lose their jobs. Pro players are public figure they have much more responsibility to keep their thinking positive and what TIME said is lower than the bottom line that society can accept

> Canada
> not modern society

choose one :D



If Canada allow those kind of behaviours, in my mind Canada is more like North Korea or some area in Africa/Asia


That's not what I'm saying at all....
Of course what he sayed is awefull and he could probably be legaly in trouble in Canada, lets say if the girl she talk about decided to push charges for diffamation, that's not the point, I'm just talking about the part where you say most people would lose their jobs because of it.

You can't fire someone on the sole basis that he or she did something bad outside of the work place unless you can make a reasonable argument it has an effect on the work place. For exemple let's say you get cought drunk driving you are gonna go into court but your boss can't fire you for it, but they could if lets say you were driving a company car at the moment of the event.
Of course a lot of boss could fire you anyway but they need to invoque another reason to do so (which isn't that hard really) if they don't they open themself to legal action, of course most people would not go in court anyway.

It's a good thing by the way it protect the workers from being fire for actions non related to their jobs. But more and more company include company reputation protection in their job contract that make those kind of people fireable but also mean you can't critisise your own company or some of it's action outside of the work place.

Anyway we are getting off topic.
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yuisaka
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia76 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-26 13:31:33
January 26 2019 13:30 GMT
#86
On January 26 2019 22:22 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2019 22:05 yuisaka wrote:
On January 26 2019 21:59 Luolis wrote:
On January 26 2019 21:51 yuisaka wrote:
On January 26 2019 21:32 Nakajin wrote:
On January 26 2019 21:25 yuisaka wrote:
On January 26 2019 19:50 DieuCure wrote:
I see that there are many who dont know the word frustration here, and who are so perfect that they never say anything bad in private.


This is not the excuse to be a racist and antifeminism. Even the message is private the players are not and no matter who said this in any occasion will lost their job easily


Actually you probably won't lose your job for it, you could argue something like a damage to a company reputation but most of the time outside of work diffamation isn't a legal reason to fire someone, at least not in Canada. Of course you can just find another reason to fire the employe anyway.
But pro player aren't really employe and esport contract are garbage anyway.



Maybe not in Canada but in modern society don‘t have any space for racist or antifeminism. We can find thousands and thousands examples that people saying shlt in social media and lose their jobs. Pro players are public figure they have much more responsibility to keep their thinking positive and what TIME said is lower than the bottom line that society can accept

> Canada
> not modern society

choose one :D



If Canada allow those kind of behaviours, in my mind Canada is more like North Korea or some area in Africa/Asia


That's not what I'm saying at all....
Of course what he sayed is awefull and he could probably be legaly in trouble in Canada, lets say if the girl she talk about decided to push charges for diffamation, that's not the point, I'm just talking about the part where you say most people would lose their jobs because of it.

You can't fire someone on the sole basis that he or she did something bad outside of the work place unless you can make a reasonable argument it has an effect on the work place. For exemple let's say you get cought drunk driving you are gonna go into court but your boss can't fire you for it, but they could if lets say you were driving a company car at the moment of the event.
Of course a lot of boss could fire you anyway but they need to invoque another reason to do so (which isn't that hard really) if they don't they open themself to legal action, of course most people would not go in court anyway.

It's a good thing by the way it protect the workers from being fire for actions non related to their jobs. But more and more company include company reputation protection in their job contract that make those kind of people fireable but also mean you can't critisise your own company or some of it's action outside of the work place.

Anyway we are getting off topic.


If you against the law you will get fire easily and there is nothing to do with your job/company or worker rights thats my point,maybe Canada don't have law on human rights
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shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
January 26 2019 13:41 GMT
#87
On January 26 2019 22:30 yuisaka wrote:
If you against the law you will get fire easily and there is nothing to do with your job/company or worker rights thats my point,maybe Canada don't have law on human rights


Wait what? Talking shit in a private conversation is a violation of human rights?
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-26 13:45:18
January 26 2019 13:43 GMT
#88
20 years ago this thread would have just been filled with "lol"

in some ways thats bad, but in some ways thats good


but it would be nice if members of today's society learned about application of a concept called context
yuisaka
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia76 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-26 13:48:15
January 26 2019 13:47 GMT
#89
On January 26 2019 22:41 shabby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2019 22:30 yuisaka wrote:
If you against the law you will get fire easily and there is nothing to do with your job/company or worker rights thats my point,maybe Canada don't have law on human rights


Wait what? Talking shit in a private conversation is a violation of human rights?


YES,you can say or do what ever you want(eg: Facebook,twitter) but dont let other people know what you said or what you did especially public figure,you have rights to say it the society have rights to punish you
2000
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
January 26 2019 13:48 GMT
#90
So let me see if I follow. TIME said some nasty shit in a private conversation. Some dick leaked the private conversation and now people are up in arms and either want an apology or his head?

Is there anything I'm missing here?
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
yuisaka
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia76 Posts
January 26 2019 13:50 GMT
#91
On January 26 2019 22:43 travis wrote:
20 years ago this thread would have just been filled with "lol"

in some ways thats bad, but in some ways thats good


but it would be nice if members of today's society learned about application of a concept called context


Not so long ago maybe couple years ago blacks are still slaves in US
2000
William paradise
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
1753 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-26 13:56:12
January 26 2019 13:55 GMT
#92
On January 26 2019 22:41 shabby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2019 22:30 yuisaka wrote:
If you against the law you will get fire easily and there is nothing to do with your job/company or worker rights thats my point,maybe Canada don't have law on human rights


Wait what? Talking shit in a private conversation is a violation of human rights?

lol i actually laughed out loud.but if you wanna feel really really bad for the future that very well could happen to look at whats happing in us. where you get blacklisted from society if you say the wrong thing or take a view counter to the so-called progressive majority here.
ok
William paradise
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
1753 Posts
January 26 2019 13:58 GMT
#93
On January 26 2019 22:48 showstealer1829 wrote:
So let me see if I follow. TIME said some nasty shit in a private conversation. Some dick leaked the private conversation and now people are up in arms and either want an apology or his head?

Is there anything I'm missing here?

no spot on but he did say some really dumb things and as we all know in this age when you say dumb things you get banned or maybe its just one side gets banned it gets confusing
ok
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
January 26 2019 13:59 GMT
#94
On January 26 2019 22:30 yuisaka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2019 22:22 Nakajin wrote:
On January 26 2019 22:05 yuisaka wrote:
On January 26 2019 21:59 Luolis wrote:
On January 26 2019 21:51 yuisaka wrote:
On January 26 2019 21:32 Nakajin wrote:
On January 26 2019 21:25 yuisaka wrote:
On January 26 2019 19:50 DieuCure wrote:
I see that there are many who dont know the word frustration here, and who are so perfect that they never say anything bad in private.


This is not the excuse to be a racist and antifeminism. Even the message is private the players are not and no matter who said this in any occasion will lost their job easily


Actually you probably won't lose your job for it, you could argue something like a damage to a company reputation but most of the time outside of work diffamation isn't a legal reason to fire someone, at least not in Canada. Of course you can just find another reason to fire the employe anyway.
But pro player aren't really employe and esport contract are garbage anyway.



Maybe not in Canada but in modern society don‘t have any space for racist or antifeminism. We can find thousands and thousands examples that people saying shlt in social media and lose their jobs. Pro players are public figure they have much more responsibility to keep their thinking positive and what TIME said is lower than the bottom line that society can accept

> Canada
> not modern society

choose one :D



If Canada allow those kind of behaviours, in my mind Canada is more like North Korea or some area in Africa/Asia


That's not what I'm saying at all....
Of course what he sayed is awefull and he could probably be legaly in trouble in Canada, lets say if the girl she talk about decided to push charges for diffamation, that's not the point, I'm just talking about the part where you say most people would lose their jobs because of it.

You can't fire someone on the sole basis that he or she did something bad outside of the work place unless you can make a reasonable argument it has an effect on the work place. For exemple let's say you get cought drunk driving you are gonna go into court but your boss can't fire you for it, but they could if lets say you were driving a company car at the moment of the event.
Of course a lot of boss could fire you anyway but they need to invoque another reason to do so (which isn't that hard really) if they don't they open themself to legal action, of course most people would not go in court anyway.

It's a good thing by the way it protect the workers from being fire for actions non related to their jobs. But more and more company include company reputation protection in their job contract that make those kind of people fireable but also mean you can't critisise your own company or some of it's action outside of the work place.

Anyway we are getting off topic.


If you against the law you will get fire easily and there is nothing to do with your job/company or worker rights thats my point,maybe Canada don't have law on human rights


Well first I can garantee you that Canada has human right... But your boss has no legal autority over you, they are not the one deciding his you respected the law or not and they are not the one giving the punishement, they can only say if you respected the company policy and they need to respect some condition to legaly be allowed to fire someone. (I mean a lot of the time they don't respect them anyway but that's another subject)

We can continue this discussion in PM if you want but I think here isn't the place.
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showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
January 26 2019 14:00 GMT
#95
On January 26 2019 22:58 William paradise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2019 22:48 showstealer1829 wrote:
So let me see if I follow. TIME said some nasty shit in a private conversation. Some dick leaked the private conversation and now people are up in arms and either want an apology or his head?

Is there anything I'm missing here?

no spot on but he did say some really dumb things and as we all know in this age when you say dumb things you get banned or maybe its just one side gets banned it gets confusing



Hmmm.....I guess the world has passed me by then cause I'm pretty sure if I were in TIME's spot and someone asked me for a statement my statement would be two words. Those words being "Fuck" and "Off".
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
freelifeffs
Profile Joined April 2018
97 Posts
January 26 2019 14:03 GMT
#96
lol this is hilarious how people in here are triggered by that chat and some even suggesting him to be removed from wcs… you cant ban him from wcs because of his personal opinions for the love of god. is what he said distasteful? i guess. does it make him less likeable? sure. but we are still having freedom of speech ffs. if thats what he thinks of women then its his honest right and by no means is it YOUR or anyones right to ruin his career over it.
William paradise
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
1753 Posts
January 26 2019 14:03 GMT
#97
On January 26 2019 23:00 showstealer1829 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2019 22:58 William paradise wrote:
On January 26 2019 22:48 showstealer1829 wrote:
So let me see if I follow. TIME said some nasty shit in a private conversation. Some dick leaked the private conversation and now people are up in arms and either want an apology or his head?

Is there anything I'm missing here?

no spot on but he did say some really dumb things and as we all know in this age when you say dumb things you get banned or maybe its just one side gets banned it gets confusing



Hmmm.....I guess the world has passed me by then cause I'm pretty sure if I were in TIME's spot and someone asked me for a statement my statement would be two words. Those words being "Fuck" and "Off".

mine to but this isnt the time we live in really dark future lays ahead. you can look at the #covingtongate for example.
ok
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-26 14:06:29
January 26 2019 14:04 GMT
#98
everyone is angry at one point. what's the big deal?

let the man have his opinion - if that even is his opinion on woman, ppl say stupid shit in rage - judge him for it if you so desire, i certainly don't give a damn.

"ban from wcs"
LUL you ppl are out of your mind
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William paradise
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
1753 Posts
January 26 2019 14:06 GMT
#99
On January 26 2019 23:03 freelifeffs wrote:
lol this is hilarious how people in here are triggered by that chat and some even suggesting him to be removed from wcs… you cant ban him from wcs because of his personal opinions for the love of god. is what he said distasteful? i guess. does it make him less likeable? sure. but we are still having freedom of speech ffs. if thats what he thinks of women then its his honest right and by no means is it YOUR or anyones right to ruin his career over it.

ask kevin hart if you cant be banned for opinions he got banned from hosting the oscars for just telling jokes years ago. so yea you can get banned for words now.
ok
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
January 26 2019 14:07 GMT
#100
On January 26 2019 23:06 William paradise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2019 23:03 freelifeffs wrote:
lol this is hilarious how people in here are triggered by that chat and some even suggesting him to be removed from wcs… you cant ban him from wcs because of his personal opinions for the love of god. is what he said distasteful? i guess. does it make him less likeable? sure. but we are still having freedom of speech ffs. if thats what he thinks of women then its his honest right and by no means is it YOUR or anyones right to ruin his career over it.

ask kevin hart if you cant be banned for opinions he got banned from hosting the oscars for just telling jokes years ago. so yea you can get banned for words now.


That's different.
If he was a caster or host, i would kind of understand a ban, as you are employed by the organizer.
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