EPTStarCraft II: DeepMind Demonstration: Jan 24 - Page 20
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Musicus
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
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Gandie
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On January 25 2019 04:59 Musicus wrote: zoom out map hack removed for this new agent, no complains after this? Why would anyone complain. It's not a battle of humans vs. machines. | ||
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Brutaxilos
United States2630 Posts
AlphaStar trains on a faster version of the game. They said 1 week of training was the equivalent of 200 years in real life. So if it trains 24/7 until Blizzcon, it'd be a few thousand years equivalency of training in real life time. | ||
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gophersnake
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On January 25 2019 04:59 Musicus wrote: zoom out map hack removed for this new agent, no complains after this? No, they'll find something to complain about. | ||
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Duckman
United States158 Posts
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SaintTieum
South Africa22 Posts
On January 25 2019 04:59 Nakajin wrote: Deepmind is calculating and responding to the hack accusation instanly, even avilo is doomed. Hahaha | ||
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Poopi
France12904 Posts
Live game with AI less unfair Sounds fun | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On January 25 2019 04:59 Nakajin wrote: Deepmind is calculating and responding to the hack accusation instanly, even avilo is doomed. haha, it's really next level | ||
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cha0
Canada506 Posts
On January 25 2019 05:00 Gandie wrote: Why would anyone complain. It's not a battle of humans vs. machines. Because of the PR angle they keep putting on it. Like in this behind the scenes video they just showed the lead guy says "AlphaStar is limited to having the reaction time and control speed of an average human" when having just seen the games we can all see it clearly has inhuman micro. | ||
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
On January 25 2019 04:59 Majick wrote: You can clearly see what starcraft is about. If you have significantly better mechanics, you don't need sophisticated strategy, you just make more stuff and go kill em. Yes, this is something that not many people are willing to admit or even consider in sc2, but some players are just dumb with very good mechanics, not the master minds that many would like to think. | ||
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StackerTwo
United States41 Posts
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ZlyKiss
Poland697 Posts
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JyB
France466 Posts
On January 25 2019 04:59 Musicus wrote: zoom out map hack removed for this new agent, no complains after this? No 1.5K apm spike? | ||
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Puosu
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On January 25 2019 05:02 IshinShishi wrote: Yes, this is something that not many people are willing to admit or even consider in sc2, but some players are just dumb with very good mechanics, not the master minds that many would like to think. Can you not? Calling players dumb is just fucking stupid no matter how much you think the game's got or hasn't got strategy or mechanics or whatever. | ||
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Gandie
158 Posts
On January 25 2019 05:02 cha0 wrote: Because of the PR angle they keep putting on it. Like in this behind the scenes video they just showed the lead guy says "AlphaStar is limited to having the reaction time and control speed of an average human" when having just seen the games we can all see it clearly has inhuman micro. The quote is true though. Where AS differs in its decision making. If every action is perfectly placed, regular pro reaction time and control speed are enough to dominate these games. | ||
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ASoo
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
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Gandie
158 Posts
On January 25 2019 05:02 StackerTwo wrote: Also something to note AlphaStar roughly 300 "effective" apm vs human pros who has maybe 400 spam apm & 150 eapm Serral in his WCS Leipzig replays consistently has 300+ EPM. 344 EPM in a game vs major's bio. The 3 other semi-finalists are around 200 EPM. Top Koreans I've looked are between 200-240. Serral is 50% faster than his opponents on average. Scary! https://twitter.com/retjah/status/959047573930696704?lang=de | ||
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Majick
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