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StarCraft II: DeepMind Demonstration: Jan 24 - Page 19

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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
January 24 2019 19:50 GMT
#361
On January 25 2019 04:49 JyB wrote:
Again, just outmicroing with zoom hack. Boring.


You forget everything else though... The learning, the positionning etc...

But i'm more puzzled by the obs without seeing the darkshrine or pre positionning with the hallu
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Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
January 24 2019 19:50 GMT
#362
On January 25 2019 04:49 Brutaxilos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2019 04:45 Zaros wrote:
On January 25 2019 04:44 Brutaxilos wrote:
On January 25 2019 04:37 Majick wrote:
Blizzcon 2019 Ro16:

15 AlphaStar Agents
Serral

Honestly though, if AlphaStar can beat Mana 5-0 in 2 weeks of training, Serral doesn't stand a chance.


It hasnt had 2 weeks it has had 200 years

Yea, but 2 weeks of real life time. If we do a showmatch at Blizzcon, thats like another 40 or so weeks? So the equivalent of 4 millennia of training?


I think they said 200 years in total since development over the past 2 years so it might be another 100 years training if it came again at blizzcon.
CobaltBlu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States919 Posts
January 24 2019 19:50 GMT
#363
This is cool to see but It's a novelty as long as the AI can see and control things over the whole map with inhuman awareness. It's not playing the same game as the human players really.
siakam
Profile Joined December 2018
Korea (South)11 Posts
January 24 2019 19:51 GMT
#364
Well it is impressive
But I think the alphastar has far more advantage in micro than even top pro player from what I see
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
January 24 2019 19:51 GMT
#365
On January 25 2019 04:45 Zaros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2019 04:44 Brutaxilos wrote:
On January 25 2019 04:37 Majick wrote:
Blizzcon 2019 Ro16:

15 AlphaStar Agents
Serral

Honestly though, if AlphaStar can beat Mana 5-0 in 2 weeks of training, Serral doesn't stand a chance.


It hasnt had 2 weeks it has had 200 years


Blizzcon 2019 is not in 4000 years tho.
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Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1982 Posts
January 24 2019 19:51 GMT
#366
On January 25 2019 04:50 BisuDagger wrote:
When you talk about years played, SC2 players are really in their infancy. You are never a year away from a patch. This is coupled with the fact that we don't have truly dominant players in SC2 yet. Winning for a year or two is as good as it has gotten. I would have found this more interesting had SC2 had 5 more years between its last patch or if this were trained in Brood War. In Brood War their is at least a definitive player with the most well rounded skill set in Macro, Micro, and Strategy. *Note: I'm not comparing the games at all in terms of content.


now I'm opening myself up to flame here but I do think that BW micro is much less about the sheer APM and more tactical so I don't think it would be as good as it is in SC2.
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4946 Posts
January 24 2019 19:52 GMT
#367
Blink stalkers seem to be one of the easiest things to abuse from an AI. I wish they'd chosen any other race than P honestly.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8991 Posts
January 24 2019 19:52 GMT
#368
Personnally I'm kind of surprise/relief that "our" build seems pretty good. I half expected the CPU to show us that actually building 2 proxy gate and pull all your probe is actually unbeatable.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
January 24 2019 19:52 GMT
#369
AlphaStar League...ASL?
peanuts
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States1225 Posts
January 24 2019 19:53 GMT
#370
Wait... they're hyping up its ability to generate new strats and win through multiple means, but didn't they say that each match involved a different agent? How do we know that it could actually learn and react to a human player over the course of a series?
Writer"My greatest skill is my enjoyment of the game" - Grubby | @TL_Peanuts
JyB
Profile Joined January 2012
France466 Posts
January 24 2019 19:53 GMT
#371
On January 25 2019 04:51 siakam wrote:
Well it is impressive
But I think the alphastar has far more advantage in micro than even top pro player from what I see


Of course it has near perfect micro =>

On January 25 2019 04:43 Jacenoob wrote:
wow mono blink stalkers with high APM and perfect clicking what high intelligence


Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8991 Posts
January 24 2019 19:54 GMT
#372
On January 25 2019 04:52 mierin wrote:
Blink stalkers seem to be one of the easiest things to abuse from an AI. I wish they'd chosen any other race than P honestly.


Dunno thing like medivack pick up and speed lings have insane micro potential
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
January 24 2019 19:55 GMT
#373
Is there a reason they're only having it play PVP?
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IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
January 24 2019 19:55 GMT
#374
On January 25 2019 04:51 Garrl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2019 04:50 BisuDagger wrote:
When you talk about years played, SC2 players are really in their infancy. You are never a year away from a patch. This is coupled with the fact that we don't have truly dominant players in SC2 yet. Winning for a year or two is as good as it has gotten. I would have found this more interesting had SC2 had 5 more years between its last patch or if this were trained in Brood War. In Brood War their is at least a definitive player with the most well rounded skill set in Macro, Micro, and Strategy. *Note: I'm not comparing the games at all in terms of content.


now I'm opening myself up to flame here but I do think that BW micro is much less about the sheer APM and more tactical so I don't think it would be as good as it is in SC2.

it would beat flash 101-0 with vulture micro alone
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
January 24 2019 19:55 GMT
#375
On January 25 2019 04:55 renaissanceMAN wrote:
Is there a reason they're only having it play PVP?


I guess it's only programmed for this as of now
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8991 Posts
January 24 2019 19:55 GMT
#376
On January 25 2019 04:53 peanuts wrote:
Wait... they're hyping up its ability to generate new strats and win through multiple means, but didn't they say that each match involved a different agent? How do we know that it could actually learn and react to a human player over the course of a series?


It wouldn't, I don't think it gives more importance to the last game than the 10 000 previous one.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
January 24 2019 19:57 GMT
#377
Isn't Serral Serral supposed to play too?
StackerTwo
Profile Joined February 2012
United States41 Posts
January 24 2019 19:58 GMT
#378
Did they explain why Protoss vs Zerg/Terran?
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
January 24 2019 19:58 GMT
#379
AlphaStar FPV!
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
Majick
Profile Joined August 2016
416 Posts
January 24 2019 19:59 GMT
#380
You can clearly see what starcraft is about. If you have significantly better mechanics, you don't need sophisticated strategy, you just make more stuff and go kill em.
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