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On January 25 2019 05:03 Gandie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2019 05:02 cha0 wrote:On January 25 2019 05:00 Gandie wrote:On January 25 2019 04:59 Musicus wrote:
zoom out map hack removed for this new agent, no complains after this? Why would anyone complain. It's not a battle of humans vs. machines. Because of the PR angle they keep putting on it. Like in this behind the scenes video they just showed the lead guy says "AlphaStar is limited to having the reaction time and control speed of an average human" when having just seen the games we can all see it clearly has inhuman micro. The quote is true though. Where AS differs in its decision making. If every action is perfectly placed, regular pro reaction time and control speed are enough to dominate these games.
Have you been watching the games? Specifically the part where it's apm spiked to 1500 while microing stalkers vs Mana?? They limited it's 'average' apm, and the AI just learned to game the system, purposefully lowering it's apm out of battle and then spiking it super high during battle.
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On January 25 2019 05:05 Gandie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2019 05:02 StackerTwo wrote:
Also something to note AlphaStar roughly 300 "effective" apm vs human pros who has maybe 400 spam apm & 150 eapm Show nested quote +Serral in his WCS Leipzig replays consistently has 300+ EPM. 344 EPM in a game vs major's bio. The 3 other semi-finalists are around 200 EPM. Top Koreans I've looked are between 200-240. Serral is 50% faster than his opponents on average. Scary! https://twitter.com/retjah/status/959047573930696704?lang=de
That's why I emphasized the "pure" aspect of it, I can get to 200+ eapm sometimes or at least the engine says I did, but we all know that wasn't really 200 precise meaningful actions at all, that's not the case with this A.I.
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On January 25 2019 05:03 JyB wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2019 04:59 Musicus wrote:
zoom out map hack removed for this new agent, no complains after this? No 1.5K apm spike?
don't think they changed that!
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this is so amazing to watch
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Canada8991 Posts
Seems odd that the engine dosen't insta spot observer
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looks a bit more human at least
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On January 25 2019 05:08 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2019 05:03 JyB wrote:On January 25 2019 04:59 Musicus wrote:
zoom out map hack removed for this new agent, no complains after this? No 1.5K apm spike? don't think they changed that!
so it's still just BS micro :o) The AI just goes around the avg limitations.
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fucking bot LOVES stalkers holy cow
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mana should get double robo immortal
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hey guys, heard you liked oracles, so we built oracles for your oracles so you can oracle while you oracle
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AI actually getting out multitasked lmao
also apparently doesnt know how to build any other units than stalkers and oracles
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Canada8991 Posts
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On January 25 2019 05:10 renaissanceMAN wrote:
fucking bot LOVES stalkers holy cow
lol
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mana gamed the bot so hard
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On January 25 2019 05:12 Garrl wrote:
AI actually getting out multitasked lmao
CAN'T BREATH
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Russian Federation400 Posts
People who find excuses and complain about EPM/POV difference - you are so many! Just shut up! You are not correct.
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EPT
