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Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
October 23 2018 19:33 GMT
#21
On October 23 2018 23:52 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Debuting in GSL Open Season 1 at the tender age of 13, Maru was one of the early aspirants tagged for future greatness. Throughout 2011 the Prime Terran was sorted along with Life, Creator, TaeJa, PartinG, and a few select others as a group of emerging superstars.


Man, I didn't remember that Maru used to be on Prime. He wasn't in the video. Though I guess that explains why I kept confusing him with Maka back in the day.
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
October 23 2018 19:47 GMT
#22
On October 24 2018 04:33 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2018 23:52 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Debuting in GSL Open Season 1 at the tender age of 13, Maru was one of the early aspirants tagged for future greatness. Throughout 2011 the Prime Terran was sorted along with Life, Creator, TaeJa, PartinG, and a few select others as a group of emerging superstars.


Man, I didn't remember that Maru used to be on Prime. He wasn't in the video. Though I guess that explains why I kept confusing him with Maka back in the day.

The crazy part is that he would been on SKT had he not injured his wrist at the time they offered him a spot.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2710 Posts
October 23 2018 20:42 GMT
#23
It took him 9 seasons since his debut to reach Code S; subsequently, he never reached the GSL Round of 16 until 2014.


It's 2012 not 2014.
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fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
October 23 2018 20:44 GMT
#24
On October 24 2018 00:49 stardog wrote:
It's funny how many mentions Creator gets from being one of the 2011 super-talented youngsters. While it's a painful reminder that he never really made it, at least he can enjoy some lasting recognition.


Fun fact
Creator beat life in TLS 4 (the second and final starleague for sc2) a long time ago
https://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/tournaments/210-team-liquid-starleague-4/matches/3284-creator-vs-life

then he faded into nothingness
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12768 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-23 21:19:52
October 23 2018 21:19 GMT
#25
Maru already adept of the 2rax back in the Prime days :D
Prime video
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13970 Posts
October 23 2018 21:53 GMT
#26
On October 24 2018 05:44 fishjie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2018 00:49 stardog wrote:
It's funny how many mentions Creator gets from being one of the 2011 super-talented youngsters. While it's a painful reminder that he never really made it, at least he can enjoy some lasting recognition.


Fun fact
Creator beat life in TLS 4 (the second and final starleague for sc2) a long time ago
https://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/tournaments/210-team-liquid-starleague-4/matches/3284-creator-vs-life

then he faded into nothingness

Creator was such a damn boss in that tournament...good times
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Rodya
Profile Joined January 2018
546 Posts
October 23 2018 22:52 GMT
#27
On October 24 2018 02:24 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2018 02:19 hey_hey_lbj wrote:
On October 24 2018 00:54 TheDougler wrote:
Not sure I quite understand the title in this one. "Slouching" doesn't really seem to fit. If it's related to the last paragraph then maybe "lounging" towards Anaheim might be more fitting? Even then, wouldn't be a great title IMO.


My guess is that it's a reference to a poem by Yeats, called The Second Coming. It has the line "What rough beast, its hour come at last, slouches towards Betlehem to be born?" or something along those lines. The title says "to" instead of "toward" so maybe that's not a correct guess. Doesn't really fit perfectly with the situation either but from my short read the author seems a little too in love with his own words to kill his darlings very often.


You're right actually, there was a mistake with the title before. Corrected now.

I know it doesn't really matter, but the mistake persists on the front page hyperlink.
Banned for saying "zerg players are by far the biggest whiners in sc2 history" despite the fact that this forum is full of such posts about Terrans. Foreigner Elitists in control!
spoonmaster
Profile Joined May 2012
United States347 Posts
October 23 2018 23:10 GMT
#28
Maru's gonna win it all, he's just such a strong player right now.
Kurao
Profile Joined April 2018
215 Posts
October 23 2018 23:32 GMT
#29
I am very eager to see how Maru delivers in a tournament that is more rapid format-wise now since the WESG performance. I mean, he has won a puny 3 GSLs since then

The amount of proxies will also be interesting, since it no longer seems to be a BM build to him but his best build overall, especially in TvP and TvT.
Kurao
Profile Joined April 2018
215 Posts
October 23 2018 23:35 GMT
#30
On October 24 2018 06:19 Poopi wrote:
Maru already adept of the 2rax back in the Prime days :D
Prime video

I guess over 6 years of 2raxing is bound to bear some fruit!
KR_4EVR
Profile Joined July 2017
316 Posts
October 23 2018 23:35 GMT
#31
I disagree with the general focus in this article. Maru's big accomplishment was not in winning GSL season 2 and 3 this year. It was in the specific run in GSL season 1:

3-2 $o$
4-2 Dark
4-2 Stats

Literally nothing else matters. THIS was the moment where he broke free and conquered his past self. You see, I remember those games very well. I have never in my life seen better micro than that clutch game vs $o$, the moment when Maru truly stepped out of the shadow of his better. Then, beating Dark who tbh I thought that, having just lost to Maru in WESG, was in full hot-blood revenge mode and fully prepped specifically to take Maru down. Then sealing the deal dismantling Stats, the perennial semifinals crusher. To my mind nothing this year came close to those three games, and those are the crucible that made the man this year.
Et tu Brute ?
KR_4EVR
Profile Joined July 2017
316 Posts
October 23 2018 23:40 GMT
#32
On October 24 2018 08:35 Kurao wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2018 06:19 Poopi wrote:
Maru already adept of the 2rax back in the Prime days :D
Prime video

I guess over 6 years of 2raxing is bound to bear some fruit!


I mean, there's the adage, "practice makes perfect" which is wrong. Practice makes permanent. It's actually very hard to improve by doing the same thing over again. Only the best of the best can improve in that way. Most people improve most by rotating through different foci of strength training.
Et tu Brute ?
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2710 Posts
October 24 2018 00:54 GMT
#33
On October 13 2018 00:39 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2018 23:54 HolydaKing wrote:
Matches between 2011-11-15 and 2018-10-12.
Maybe the release order of the articles has to do with the time, like the date when the players had their peak achievement of the year? There's the month January in both Nerchio's and Showtime's picture, both had their best result in January and Nerchio had it first. I didn't check all players if Rogue would be the next one though.

Given their were no tournaments between Leipzig (where Showtime made the final) and Katowice that would make sense.

This also means the release order would look something like:

1. Nerchio (not really any notable acheivements)
2. ShoWTimE - January 28th (WCS Leipzig ro4)
3. Rogue - March 4th (IEM Katowice win)
4. Dark - either March 24th (GSL ro4) or April 8th (Super tournament 2nd)
5. Stats - April 8th (Super tournament win)
6. SpeCial - June 3rd (WCS Austin ro4)
7. Zest - June 28th (GSL 2nd)
8. HeRoMaRinE - July 14th (WCS Valencia ro4)
9. Has - July 14th (WCS Valencia 2nd)
10. Serral - August 5th (GSL vs the World win)
11. Neeb - September 5th (GSL ro4)
12. Lambo - September 9th (WCS Montreal ro4)
13. Maru - September 15th (3rd GSL win)
14. TY - September 15th (GSL 2nd)
15. sOs - September 30th (Super tournament 2nd)
16. Classic - September 30th (Super tournament win)

Though I expect Serral and Maru to be the last released for hype reasons.


Wow Fango is a genius. Got everything right except Stats (GSL vs World 2nd instead of Super Tournament #1 win), Heromarine (WCS Montreal Ro8 instead of Valencia Ro4??? makes no sense), and TY/Maru swap (which in retrospect to his sOs/Classic order should've been swapped).

Actual release order:
1. Nerchio (not really any notable acheivements)
2. ShoWTimE - January 28th (WCS Leipzig ro4)
3. Rogue - March 4th (IEM Katowice win)
4. Dark - either March 24th (GSL ro4) or April 8th (Super tournament 2nd)
5. SpeCial - June 3rd (WCS Austin ro4)
6. Zest - June 28th (GSL 2nd)
7. Has - July 14th (WCS Valencia 2nd)
8. Stats - August 5th (GSL vs the World 2nd)
9. Serral - August 5th (GSL vs the World win)
10. Neeb - September 5th (GSL ro4)
11. HeRoMaRinE - September 9th (WCS Montreal Ro8)
12. Lambo - September 9th (WCS Montreal ro4)
13. TY - September 15th (GSL 2nd)
14. Maru - September 15th (3rd GSL win)
And most likely:
15. sOs - September 30th (Super tournament 2nd)
16. Classic - September 30th (Super tournament win)
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
October 24 2018 08:39 GMT
#34
On October 24 2018 09:54 argonautdice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2018 00:39 Fango wrote:
On October 12 2018 23:54 HolydaKing wrote:
Matches between 2011-11-15 and 2018-10-12.
Maybe the release order of the articles has to do with the time, like the date when the players had their peak achievement of the year? There's the month January in both Nerchio's and Showtime's picture, both had their best result in January and Nerchio had it first. I didn't check all players if Rogue would be the next one though.

Given their were no tournaments between Leipzig (where Showtime made the final) and Katowice that would make sense.

This also means the release order would look something like:

1. Nerchio (not really any notable acheivements)
2. ShoWTimE - January 28th (WCS Leipzig ro4)
3. Rogue - March 4th (IEM Katowice win)
4. Dark - either March 24th (GSL ro4) or April 8th (Super tournament 2nd)
5. Stats - April 8th (Super tournament win)
6. SpeCial - June 3rd (WCS Austin ro4)
7. Zest - June 28th (GSL 2nd)
8. HeRoMaRinE - July 14th (WCS Valencia ro4)
9. Has - July 14th (WCS Valencia 2nd)
10. Serral - August 5th (GSL vs the World win)
11. Neeb - September 5th (GSL ro4)
12. Lambo - September 9th (WCS Montreal ro4)
13. Maru - September 15th (3rd GSL win)
14. TY - September 15th (GSL 2nd)
15. sOs - September 30th (Super tournament 2nd)
16. Classic - September 30th (Super tournament win)

Though I expect Serral and Maru to be the last released for hype reasons.


Wow Fango is a genius. Got everything right except Stats (GSL vs World 2nd instead of Super Tournament #1 win), Heromarine (WCS Montreal Ro8 instead of Valencia Ro4??? makes no sense), and TY/Maru swap (which in retrospect to his sOs/Classic order should've been swapped).

Actual release order:
1. Nerchio (not really any notable acheivements)
2. ShoWTimE - January 28th (WCS Leipzig ro4)
3. Rogue - March 4th (IEM Katowice win)
4. Dark - either March 24th (GSL ro4) or April 8th (Super tournament 2nd)
5. SpeCial - June 3rd (WCS Austin ro4)
6. Zest - June 28th (GSL 2nd)
7. Has - July 14th (WCS Valencia 2nd)
8. Stats - August 5th (GSL vs the World 2nd)
9. Serral - August 5th (GSL vs the World win)
10. Neeb - September 5th (GSL ro4)
11. HeRoMaRinE - September 9th (WCS Montreal Ro8)
12. Lambo - September 9th (WCS Montreal ro4)
13. TY - September 15th (GSL 2nd)
14. Maru - September 15th (3rd GSL win)
And most likely:
15. sOs - September 30th (Super tournament 2nd)
16. Classic - September 30th (Super tournament win)


Since it's all been revealed by now, the focus was never on every player's best tournament of the year. It was one that we thought really summed up their narrative going into the Global Finals—or their Road to BlizzCon, if you will. We did this through a vote (similar to Power Ranks). In Heromarine's case for example, we thought the Ro8 elimination by TIME said a lot about where he stands. He's a good player and he's gradually improving, but losing a series like that really tells you he's not the finished article.

It just so happens that a lot of the defining moments were also the best placements of these players.
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Xophy
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany78 Posts
October 24 2018 08:45 GMT
#35
On October 24 2018 00:18 Rodya wrote:
TY? Maru just beat him. Classic? Maru beat him. Serral? Maru crushed him. Rogue? Maru crushed him. Stats? Maru beat him. Zest? No. Neeb? Decimated.

At first glance it seems only Dark and sOs really have a shot at beating him based on past performances. Maybe Rogue as well. I'm hoping for sOs vs Maru finals then.


Come on now ... I don't want to take anything away from Maru's excellent 2018, but your delusional bias gets exceedingly annoying. To use similar logic:
Maru? Keen beat him in GSL S1. Maru? Classic beat him in GSL S1. Maru? sOs beat him in ST2. Maru? Stats beat him in GSLvsWorld. Maru? Classic beat him in ST1.
Additionally, Reynor (GSL S3), Rogue (GSL S2), TY (GSL S3) did give him a pretty good run for his money.
So stop pretending that noone has a shot against him, especially considering that he does not seem to excell that much in weekender tournaments (which Blizzcon basically boils down to after group stage).
He might be favored to win the tournament, but I do not think it's ex-ante as clear cut as you make it sound.
Dave4
Profile Joined August 2018
494 Posts
October 24 2018 10:17 GMT
#36
Maru is probably one of the strongest number 2 players since Jaedong or Yellow.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
October 24 2018 13:01 GMT
#37
On October 24 2018 19:17 Dave4 wrote:
Maru is probably one of the strongest number 2 players since Jaedong or Yellow.

Hm looking at this the number 2 player seems to be zerg usually, i guess you made a mistake here
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HelpMeGetBetter
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States763 Posts
October 24 2018 22:36 GMT
#38
how many viewers will a Serral vs Maru grand final get?
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
October 24 2018 22:45 GMT
#39
On October 25 2018 07:36 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
how many viewers will a Serral vs Maru grand final get?

Enough to guarantee blizz rigging the brackets to put them on opposite sides.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 25 2018 00:29 GMT
#40
On October 25 2018 07:36 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
how many viewers will a Serral vs Maru grand final get?


I'd say at least 60000.

But when's the last time we've actually ever gotten a 100% hype final/occurence?

Think about all the Neeb Serral matches that never happened in WCS.
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