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October 23rd, 2018 14:52 GMT
Photo: ESL
Maru
Cho Seong Ju
Jin Air Green Wings

Slouching Towards Anaheim

by CosmicSpiral


Watching a player transform from auspicious neophyte to perennial all-star is one of the most fulfilling aspects of being a sports fan. It combines the desire to live vicariously through our favorite athletes with the altruistic underpinnings of supporting the underdog. Who among us hasn’t fantasized about rising up from the dregs to touching the stars through hard work and perseverance? Most of us lack the prerequisite characteristics to pull it off, yet we can admire the select few who flourish under such pressure (to the applause of a roaring crowd). This is especially pertinent in StarCraft where the majority of up-and-comers start off as teenagers. Not only does the audience experience the tension and drama of a traditional sport, they also witness these games double as maturation rituals of adulthood. Failures stagnate in their growth, lose composure during key moments and allow fear to hinder progress. Successes comprehend the monumental effort demanded to maintain a spot among the elite performers, maintain proper dedication and conscientiousness during lonely practice hours, and demonstrate gratefulness for their fortunate lot in life.

Debuting in GSL Open Season 1 at the tender age of 13, Maru was one of the early aspirants tagged for future greatness. Throughout 2011 the Prime Terran was sorted along with Life,
Creator, TaeJa, PartinG, and a few select others as a group of emerging superstars. These players tore through the loose network of online leagues that functioned as playground and impromptu practice sessions, introducing innovative new builds and highly stylized approaches to the game. They couldn’t quite hack in Code S due to lacking the experience and composure of the Brood War transplants. But these prodigies had time to grow and flourish, or so their more ardent fans believed. In time they would succeed the old guard, NesTea, Mvp, MC, as the faces of StarCraft II.

For a long time Maru teetered on the brink between yesterday’s news and eventual champion. Several compatriots in the club either enjoyed short zeniths in their career or rescinded their promise to end up as mediocre side characters—Yonghwa, Creator and Squirtle in particular either hit insurmountable obstacles or fizzled out at the height of their power. Others ascended to become household names. Maru found himself caught in-between widespread recognition and abject failure. Prior to the end of summer 2013, Maru accomplished almost nothing of note. It took him 9 seasons since his debut to reach Code S; subsequently, he never reached the GSL Round of 16 until 2014. In the era of Koreans infiltrating foreign tournaments and departing with all the swag, he was nonexistent. Besides winning Asia StarCraft League over BBoongBboong you’d be mistaken in thinking he never participated at all.

Maru’s misfortune ended in spectacular fashion when he won the 2013 WCS Season 2 OSL. As the last entry in the storied tournament’s history, it was caustic irony that the final champion bulldozed two of the most iconic Brood War expats in the process. INnoVation, praised as the best Terran who transferred from the old game, never got a leg up during his 0-4 beatdown rife with cheese and a one-sided macro pummeling. Rain suffered similar distraught after he started out with a well-earned 2-0 lead; reminiscent of his semi-final match, Maru piled on aggression with landslide win after landslide win. It was surreal to see his diminutive frame on-stage as he held the glistening trophy. Despite being 16 years old, Maru was already a veteran of the scene. It felt less like his triumphant fulfillment than an old-timer finally getting their due.

His career prospects from that point became spotty. It would be a bleak overgeneralization to suggest his time over these 3 years was one of endless disappointment: Jin Air became one of the most prominent Proleague teams largely thanks to Maru’s excellent record from 2014 to 2016. Maru himself never reverted to the forgotten youngster of yore, but the chiaroscuro painted by his results suggested he was still deficient in some aspects. After his breakout performance in OSL Maru landed four straight semifinal showings only to lose every single opportunity. Dear denied him twice while exhibiting some of the best Protoss gameplay ever seen up to that point; Soulkey and Jaedong took him down at Hot6ix Cup and WCS Finals respectively. This kickstarted a dry spell that lasted through 2014 until the beginning of 2015. His victory in 2015 SSL Season 1 was another watershed moment that should’ve signaled an unmistakable return to form. Yet besides second place at IEM Taipei he didn’t land another final until WESG 2016. Outside of perpetual quarterfinal finishes, Maru only reached the semis of GSL Season 2 before losing to eventual champion GuMiho.


Rank


#1
Korean Standings

WCS Points


14250

2018 Season Stats*


41–14 (74.55%) vs. Terran
77–49 (61.11%) vs. Protoss
75–30 (71.43%) vs. Zerg
*Via Aligulac.com. Matches between 2017-11-15 and 2018-10-16.


With such spotty individual results across 3 years, it was a shock to witness Maru convert 2018 into a self-gratifying monument dedicated to his greatness. Such dominance wasn’t unheard of. Flash singlehandedly terrorized Korea within the 2008-2010 stretch despite the best efforts of Jaedong and company. iloveoov had a similar aura of invincibility during his heyday. Mvp looked all but untouchable when he first crossed over into SC2. Such examples seem ostensibly related...except these illustrations came with the caveat of timing. The aforementioned players reigned supreme from the beginning or soon after their introductions. When Maru captured GSL Season 1 and Season 2, he was doing so 7 years after his introduction. His successes were hardly outliers either. Stats floundered helplessly without mustering a real fight against Maru’s proxy tactics. Meanwhile nothing could be said about Zest’s gameplay that hasn’t already been said about Afghanistan. With the exception of long series versus high-level Zergs—a prospective Kryptonite that turned out fatal at IEM Katowice and almost cost him the WESG final—and a few group stages losses against Protoss in Season 3, Maru has looked every inch the unstoppable titan the faithful anticipated.

His road to completing the hat trick was mostly effortless. After breezing through both group stages, Maru slapped aside GuMiho to set up a rematch against Season 1 finalist Zest. Their series garnered much-deserved ragging for how short and ugly it turned out, which sparked some hope Zest would summon more resistance during their second tryst. Such hope was in vain. A 4-1 score is closer on paper, but truthfully Maru imposed his will with equal brutality.

Maru’s bout with TY in the finals proved a nervewracking affair. Just like in their tussle in the finals of WESG last year, both players leveraged the frantic tempo of their standard gameplay. The effectiveness of such attitudes ranged from counterproductive to game-winning. At first Maru’s gambles on proxy play failed: TY jumped out to a 2-0 lead after deflecting his opponent’s early-game rushes. He found greater success with curbing his aggression to aim for macro games. In particular, Game 4 on Lost and Found saw Maru patiently transition into sky Terran to take a split-map scenario. Sensing Maru’s plan to exploit his mid and lategame prowess, TY took a page from Maru’s book on Blue Shift with a 2 base tank push. It failed to deliver the killing blow but the economic damage, along with 2 vikings executing a runby later on, granted TY enough wiggle room to snuff out Maru’s counterattack. Acid Plant started out well for the insurgent, who continued to adroitly parry proxy barracks shenanigans. TY’s admirable defense only applied to the first 3 minutes though. Once Maru regained his bearings, TY’s initial defense couldn’t compensate for his inability to check Maru’s map movements or prevent his fourth base from mining unperturbed. Eventually Maru out-muscled him with sheer numbers.

Game 7 on Atlas was a short, tense affair. For a brief stretch of time TY could taste the upset. He had shut down Maru’s choice of cloaked banshees, leaving the Jin Air Terran in a precarious spot. Down 10 workers and a third CC, Maru gambled the series on the most decisive and desperate of moves. He gathered his remaining marine/tank/banshee force and hurled it at TY’s natural in a last ditch all-in. TY almost rebuffed with a SCV pull but in the end, the tanks and banshees output too much damage to absorb. Maru survived with 1 cyclone, 1 banshee, and a repairing SCV. His paltry army was strong enough to wipe out the stragglers helplessly spawning from TY’s production.

The coup de grace signaled an end of uncertainty, the closing chapter to his saga of deferred potential. Ever since the dawn of sports audiences have bemoaned lost futures that only exist in the imagination. It is a routine pastime in SC2, where a player’s promise can gleam and peter out in a span of months; when the season is particularly bereft of interesting observations, it becomes boilerplate rhetoric for writers scrambling to . By stamping his imprimatur on 2018, Maru has effectively closed the book on that tired tale. Even now, with BlizzCon looming on the horizon, it’s a struggle to articulate the significance of future tournaments in a way that suggests necessity. There is nothing left for Maru to prove—not to his stalwart fans, to his contemporaries, or the niggling voice inside that kept him on the straight and narrow during the apex and nadir of his careers. If he graciously decided to retire tomorrow, he would still hold a firm claim to the title of GOAT.

Material rewards and legacy aside, only the thrill of success remains. Maru is a competitor at heart (one must be simply to survive in such a punishing environment) who isn’t satisfied at the prospect of standing head and shoulders above his peers. 3 consecutive GSL championships is an accomplishment he can treasure on his death bed, but as long as the fourth one is within reach he will instinctively strive towards it. Like lounging on a Hawaiian beach watching an idyllic sunset, Maru yearns to relish every moment of his newfound success. And there’s no better way to maintain momentum than winning the biggest tournament of the year. BlizzCon is a daunting challenge for the majority of attendees; every round advanced is an ordeal, a feat of survival. BlizzCon for Maru is dessert at the end of a long buffet. Hoisting the trophy will simply satiate his hunger until the next GSL season begins.








Writer: CosmicSpiral
Editors: CosmicSpiral, Olli
Photos: Carlton Beener, Blizzard, ESL, Leimmia, Bart Oerbekke, Helena Kristiansson
Graphics: 3StrakGames
Statistics: Aligulac
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4955 Posts
October 23 2018 15:05 GMT
#2
Bow down to the King
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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dummy1
Profile Blog Joined April 2018
420 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-23 15:10:33
October 23 2018 15:08 GMT
#3
I did not read it, but I am sure that CosmicSpiral cried all night with pleasure while giving birth to every single word about Maru. I give you 10 cried Olli on Zest out of 10. Well done, bro.

P.S. My body is ready to see his final form.
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Rodya
Profile Joined January 2018
546 Posts
October 23 2018 15:18 GMT
#4
TY? Maru just beat him. Classic? Maru beat him. Serral? Maru crushed him. Rogue? Maru crushed him. Stats? Maru beat him. Zest? No. Neeb? Decimated.

At first glance it seems only Dark and sOs really have a shot at beating him based on past performances. Maybe Rogue as well. I'm hoping for sOs vs Maru finals then.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19299 Posts
October 23 2018 15:21 GMT
#5
Maru has disappointed his fans in every tournament that wasn't the GSL. If he loses here, then he proves that he is player that can succeed primarily in prepared matches and has a weakness for other tournament types. This statement doesn't take away from how great he is, but it puts him on the level of MVP and Nestea who struggled to win across seas.
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dummy1
Profile Blog Joined April 2018
420 Posts
October 23 2018 15:34 GMT
#6
On October 24 2018 00:21 BisuDagger wrote:
Maru has disappointed his fans in every tournament that wasn't the GSL. If he loses here, then he proves that he is player that can succeed primarily in prepared matches and has a weakness for other tournament types. This statement doesn't take away from how great he is, but it puts him on the level of MVP and Nestea who struggled to win across seas.

WESG?
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yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
October 23 2018 15:38 GMT
#7
On October 24 2018 00:18 Rodya wrote:
TY? Maru just beat him. Classic? Maru beat him. Serral? Maru crushed him. Rogue? Maru crushed him. Stats? Maru beat him. Zest? No. Neeb? Decimated.

At first glance it seems only Dark and sOs really have a shot at beating him based on past performances. Maybe Rogue as well. I'm hoping for sOs vs Maru finals then.

Pretty sure last time they faced off which was GSL vs the World Serral crushed Maru.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 23 2018 15:42 GMT
#8
On October 24 2018 00:38 yht9657 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2018 00:18 Rodya wrote:
TY? Maru just beat him. Classic? Maru beat him. Serral? Maru crushed him. Rogue? Maru crushed him. Stats? Maru beat him. Zest? No. Neeb? Decimated.

At first glance it seems only Dark and sOs really have a shot at beating him based on past performances. Maybe Rogue as well. I'm hoping for sOs vs Maru finals then.

Pretty sure last time they faced off which was GSL vs the World Serral crushed Maru.

He did, but it was best of 1 which he likely won't count. The series when Serral got crushed by Maru was pretty early this year, although he was already pretty good then.
err0r33
Profile Joined July 2016
38 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-23 15:44:37
October 23 2018 15:43 GMT
#9
On October 24 2018 00:38 yht9657 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2018 00:18 Rodya wrote:
TY? Maru just beat him. Classic? Maru beat him. Serral? Maru crushed him. Rogue? Maru crushed him. Stats? Maru beat him. Zest? No. Neeb? Decimated.

At first glance it seems only Dark and sOs really have a shot at beating him based on past performances. Maybe Rogue as well. I'm hoping for sOs vs Maru finals then.

Pretty sure last time they faced off which was GSL vs the World Serral crushed Maru.


thats true, but bo1 can't be taked in consideration for anything ..

thats why everyone is hyped as hell to see a bo5 or even a bo7 versus the "2 best world players right now" !
yubo56
Profile Joined May 2014
690 Posts
October 23 2018 15:44 GMT
#10
On October 24 2018 00:38 yht9657 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2018 00:18 Rodya wrote:
TY? Maru just beat him. Classic? Maru beat him. Serral? Maru crushed him. Rogue? Maru crushed him. Stats? Maru beat him. Zest? No. Neeb? Decimated.

At first glance it seems only Dark and sOs really have a shot at beating him based on past performances. Maybe Rogue as well. I'm hoping for sOs vs Maru finals then.

Pretty sure last time they faced off which was GSL vs the World Serral crushed Maru.


That was a Bo1, small number statistics. The only time they played prior was the 3-0 at WESG, before Serral really turned it up yet another notch (how??) right, so it's kinda a tough call?

Dark also is not on great footing vs Maru, they hit in both IEM and WESG right, where Dark lost 4-2 and 4-3 respectively, getting proxy raxed out? They match up reasonably well, both have strong macro games but excel in scrappy games, but Maru definitely seems to have the upper hand.

sOs definitely always has a chance, maybe the only player chaotic enough to drag it out with Maru.
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
October 23 2018 15:46 GMT
#11
On October 24 2018 00:21 BisuDagger wrote:
Maru has disappointed his fans in every tournament that wasn't the GSL. If he loses here, then he proves that he is player that can succeed primarily in prepared matches and has a weakness for other tournament types. This statement doesn't take away from how great he is, but it puts him on the level of MVP and Nestea who struggled to win across seas.


Mvp won a WCS, a WCG, MLG, IEM and BlizzCon overseas. He just didn't attend most overseas tournaments.
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stardog
Profile Joined August 2011
556 Posts
October 23 2018 15:49 GMT
#12
It's funny how many mentions Creator gets from being one of the 2011 super-talented youngsters. While it's a painful reminder that he never really made it, at least he can enjoy some lasting recognition.
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
October 23 2018 15:52 GMT
#13
On October 24 2018 00:44 yubo56 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2018 00:38 yht9657 wrote:
On October 24 2018 00:18 Rodya wrote:
TY? Maru just beat him. Classic? Maru beat him. Serral? Maru crushed him. Rogue? Maru crushed him. Stats? Maru beat him. Zest? No. Neeb? Decimated.

At first glance it seems only Dark and sOs really have a shot at beating him based on past performances. Maybe Rogue as well. I'm hoping for sOs vs Maru finals then.

Pretty sure last time they faced off which was GSL vs the World Serral crushed Maru.


That was a Bo1, small number statistics. The only time they played prior was the 3-0 at WESG, before Serral really turned it up yet another notch (how??) right, so it's kinda a tough call?

Dark also is not on great footing vs Maru, they hit in both IEM and WESG right, where Dark lost 4-2 and 4-3 respectively, getting proxy raxed out? They match up reasonably well, both have strong macro games but excel in scrappy games, but Maru definitely seems to have the upper hand.

sOs definitely always has a chance, maybe the only player chaotic enough to drag it out with Maru.

Well Maru only lost 2 BO5/BO7 series in the past 6 months, one to Stats and one to sOs.
sOs might take him down but with Serral and Zest in his group he may not live long enough to do that.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
October 23 2018 15:54 GMT
#14
Not sure I quite understand the title in this one. "Slouching" doesn't really seem to fit. If it's related to the last paragraph then maybe "lounging" towards Anaheim might be more fitting? Even then, wouldn't be a great title IMO.

With that said, great write up. I hope they're saving sOs for last, I'm stoked for that one.
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
October 23 2018 16:05 GMT
#15
I feel like this article doesn't appreciate how good Maru was in HotS. It lists his best accomplishments, but either glides over them or makes them sound like failures.

That run in 2013/2014 where he made top four in 7 out of 8 tournaments in a row or something ridiculous was crazy. Especially when you consider terran was the weakest it's ever been during that time.

He also won two starleagues and had more top four finishes in them than any player except soO (I think he did anyway, might have to check that one).

And his proleague record (which no one cares about for some reason) was absolutely the best in sc2. His consistancy, especially in playoffs, was unrivaled. Even during his slump from individual leagues in 2016 he put up a Flash level proleague season.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
October 23 2018 16:25 GMT
#16
On October 24 2018 00:18 Rodya wrote:
TY? Maru just beat him. Classic? Maru beat him. Serral? Maru crushed him. Rogue? Maru crushed him. Stats? Maru beat him. Zest? No. Neeb? Decimated.

At first glance it seems only Dark and sOs really have a shot at beating him based on past performances. Maybe Rogue as well. I'm hoping for sOs vs Maru finals then.

Stats has the best chance of anyone to beat Maru and it's a damn good chance at that.
sOs is probably second because sOs is back in Anaheim
Classic is third because if he pops off...
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hey_hey_lbj
Profile Joined October 2018
1 Post
October 23 2018 17:19 GMT
#17
On October 24 2018 00:54 TheDougler wrote:
Not sure I quite understand the title in this one. "Slouching" doesn't really seem to fit. If it's related to the last paragraph then maybe "lounging" towards Anaheim might be more fitting? Even then, wouldn't be a great title IMO.


My guess is that it's a reference to a poem by Yeats, called The Second Coming. It has the line "What rough beast, its hour come at last, slouches towards Betlehem to be born?" or something along those lines. The title says "to" instead of "toward" so maybe that's not a correct guess. Doesn't really fit perfectly with the situation either but from my short read the author seems a little too in love with his own words to kill his darlings very often.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
October 23 2018 17:24 GMT
#18
On October 24 2018 02:19 hey_hey_lbj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2018 00:54 TheDougler wrote:
Not sure I quite understand the title in this one. "Slouching" doesn't really seem to fit. If it's related to the last paragraph then maybe "lounging" towards Anaheim might be more fitting? Even then, wouldn't be a great title IMO.


My guess is that it's a reference to a poem by Yeats, called The Second Coming. It has the line "What rough beast, its hour come at last, slouches towards Betlehem to be born?" or something along those lines. The title says "to" instead of "toward" so maybe that's not a correct guess. Doesn't really fit perfectly with the situation either but from my short read the author seems a little too in love with his own words to kill his darlings very often.


You're right actually, there was a mistake with the title before. Corrected now.
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Tempest
Profile Joined October 2015
United States147 Posts
October 23 2018 17:29 GMT
#19
On October 24 2018 01:25 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2018 00:18 Rodya wrote:
TY? Maru just beat him. Classic? Maru beat him. Serral? Maru crushed him. Rogue? Maru crushed him. Stats? Maru beat him. Zest? No. Neeb? Decimated.

At first glance it seems only Dark and sOs really have a shot at beating him based on past performances. Maybe Rogue as well. I'm hoping for sOs vs Maru finals then.

Stats has the best chance of anyone to beat Maru and it's a damn good chance at that.
sOs is probably second because sOs is back in Anaheim
Classic is third because if he pops off...


Yeah, when classic is on, he is ON. His PvT is remarkably good, I don't think any protoss understands that matchup as well as he does. Im not super familiar with ALL the terran players, but minus the loss to sOs at ST2 and stats at GSL vs World, I think overall Maru TvP is fantastic as well. The only matchup I would want to see more than Maru vs Serral is Maru vs Classic with both at peak form.
Quick, think of some pithy cliche and toss it here
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
October 23 2018 18:34 GMT
#20
Great article, really hype to see Maru lounge his way through this =p As Tempest wrote above I agree Maru- Classic would be a great match indeed if both players is on top of their game. I don't know if its allowed to say but it is also really interesting to ponder how this GSL year would have looked if a certain zerg player hadn't killed his own career. We could have had the battle of the titans on our hands, or just no difference at all. Still interesting to think about, especially when you consider Marus rivalry with him.
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Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
October 23 2018 19:33 GMT
#21
On October 23 2018 23:52 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Debuting in GSL Open Season 1 at the tender age of 13, Maru was one of the early aspirants tagged for future greatness. Throughout 2011 the Prime Terran was sorted along with Life, Creator, TaeJa, PartinG, and a few select others as a group of emerging superstars.


Man, I didn't remember that Maru used to be on Prime. He wasn't in the video. Though I guess that explains why I kept confusing him with Maka back in the day.
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
October 23 2018 19:47 GMT
#22
On October 24 2018 04:33 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2018 23:52 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Debuting in GSL Open Season 1 at the tender age of 13, Maru was one of the early aspirants tagged for future greatness. Throughout 2011 the Prime Terran was sorted along with Life, Creator, TaeJa, PartinG, and a few select others as a group of emerging superstars.


Man, I didn't remember that Maru used to be on Prime. He wasn't in the video. Though I guess that explains why I kept confusing him with Maka back in the day.

The crazy part is that he would been on SKT had he not injured his wrist at the time they offered him a spot.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
October 23 2018 20:42 GMT
#23
It took him 9 seasons since his debut to reach Code S; subsequently, he never reached the GSL Round of 16 until 2014.


It's 2012 not 2014.
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fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
October 23 2018 20:44 GMT
#24
On October 24 2018 00:49 stardog wrote:
It's funny how many mentions Creator gets from being one of the 2011 super-talented youngsters. While it's a painful reminder that he never really made it, at least he can enjoy some lasting recognition.


Fun fact
Creator beat life in TLS 4 (the second and final starleague for sc2) a long time ago
https://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/tournaments/210-team-liquid-starleague-4/matches/3284-creator-vs-life

then he faded into nothingness
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12905 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-23 21:19:52
October 23 2018 21:19 GMT
#25
Maru already adept of the 2rax back in the Prime days :D
Prime video
WriterMaru
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
October 23 2018 21:53 GMT
#26
On October 24 2018 05:44 fishjie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2018 00:49 stardog wrote:
It's funny how many mentions Creator gets from being one of the 2011 super-talented youngsters. While it's a painful reminder that he never really made it, at least he can enjoy some lasting recognition.


Fun fact
Creator beat life in TLS 4 (the second and final starleague for sc2) a long time ago
https://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/tournaments/210-team-liquid-starleague-4/matches/3284-creator-vs-life

then he faded into nothingness

Creator was such a damn boss in that tournament...good times
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Rodya
Profile Joined January 2018
546 Posts
October 23 2018 22:52 GMT
#27
On October 24 2018 02:24 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2018 02:19 hey_hey_lbj wrote:
On October 24 2018 00:54 TheDougler wrote:
Not sure I quite understand the title in this one. "Slouching" doesn't really seem to fit. If it's related to the last paragraph then maybe "lounging" towards Anaheim might be more fitting? Even then, wouldn't be a great title IMO.


My guess is that it's a reference to a poem by Yeats, called The Second Coming. It has the line "What rough beast, its hour come at last, slouches towards Betlehem to be born?" or something along those lines. The title says "to" instead of "toward" so maybe that's not a correct guess. Doesn't really fit perfectly with the situation either but from my short read the author seems a little too in love with his own words to kill his darlings very often.


You're right actually, there was a mistake with the title before. Corrected now.

I know it doesn't really matter, but the mistake persists on the front page hyperlink.
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spoonmaster
Profile Joined May 2012
United States347 Posts
October 23 2018 23:10 GMT
#28
Maru's gonna win it all, he's just such a strong player right now.
Kurao
Profile Joined April 2018
215 Posts
October 23 2018 23:32 GMT
#29
I am very eager to see how Maru delivers in a tournament that is more rapid format-wise now since the WESG performance. I mean, he has won a puny 3 GSLs since then

The amount of proxies will also be interesting, since it no longer seems to be a BM build to him but his best build overall, especially in TvP and TvT.
Kurao
Profile Joined April 2018
215 Posts
October 23 2018 23:35 GMT
#30
On October 24 2018 06:19 Poopi wrote:
Maru already adept of the 2rax back in the Prime days :D
Prime video

I guess over 6 years of 2raxing is bound to bear some fruit!
KR_4EVR
Profile Joined July 2017
316 Posts
October 23 2018 23:35 GMT
#31
I disagree with the general focus in this article. Maru's big accomplishment was not in winning GSL season 2 and 3 this year. It was in the specific run in GSL season 1:

3-2 $o$
4-2 Dark
4-2 Stats

Literally nothing else matters. THIS was the moment where he broke free and conquered his past self. You see, I remember those games very well. I have never in my life seen better micro than that clutch game vs $o$, the moment when Maru truly stepped out of the shadow of his better. Then, beating Dark who tbh I thought that, having just lost to Maru in WESG, was in full hot-blood revenge mode and fully prepped specifically to take Maru down. Then sealing the deal dismantling Stats, the perennial semifinals crusher. To my mind nothing this year came close to those three games, and those are the crucible that made the man this year.
Et tu Brute ?
KR_4EVR
Profile Joined July 2017
316 Posts
October 23 2018 23:40 GMT
#32
On October 24 2018 08:35 Kurao wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2018 06:19 Poopi wrote:
Maru already adept of the 2rax back in the Prime days :D
Prime video

I guess over 6 years of 2raxing is bound to bear some fruit!


I mean, there's the adage, "practice makes perfect" which is wrong. Practice makes permanent. It's actually very hard to improve by doing the same thing over again. Only the best of the best can improve in that way. Most people improve most by rotating through different foci of strength training.
Et tu Brute ?
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
October 24 2018 00:54 GMT
#33
On October 13 2018 00:39 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2018 23:54 HolydaKing wrote:
Matches between 2011-11-15 and 2018-10-12.
Maybe the release order of the articles has to do with the time, like the date when the players had their peak achievement of the year? There's the month January in both Nerchio's and Showtime's picture, both had their best result in January and Nerchio had it first. I didn't check all players if Rogue would be the next one though.

Given their were no tournaments between Leipzig (where Showtime made the final) and Katowice that would make sense.

This also means the release order would look something like:

1. Nerchio (not really any notable acheivements)
2. ShoWTimE - January 28th (WCS Leipzig ro4)
3. Rogue - March 4th (IEM Katowice win)
4. Dark - either March 24th (GSL ro4) or April 8th (Super tournament 2nd)
5. Stats - April 8th (Super tournament win)
6. SpeCial - June 3rd (WCS Austin ro4)
7. Zest - June 28th (GSL 2nd)
8. HeRoMaRinE - July 14th (WCS Valencia ro4)
9. Has - July 14th (WCS Valencia 2nd)
10. Serral - August 5th (GSL vs the World win)
11. Neeb - September 5th (GSL ro4)
12. Lambo - September 9th (WCS Montreal ro4)
13. Maru - September 15th (3rd GSL win)
14. TY - September 15th (GSL 2nd)
15. sOs - September 30th (Super tournament 2nd)
16. Classic - September 30th (Super tournament win)

Though I expect Serral and Maru to be the last released for hype reasons.


Wow Fango is a genius. Got everything right except Stats (GSL vs World 2nd instead of Super Tournament #1 win), Heromarine (WCS Montreal Ro8 instead of Valencia Ro4??? makes no sense), and TY/Maru swap (which in retrospect to his sOs/Classic order should've been swapped).

Actual release order:
1. Nerchio (not really any notable acheivements)
2. ShoWTimE - January 28th (WCS Leipzig ro4)
3. Rogue - March 4th (IEM Katowice win)
4. Dark - either March 24th (GSL ro4) or April 8th (Super tournament 2nd)
5. SpeCial - June 3rd (WCS Austin ro4)
6. Zest - June 28th (GSL 2nd)
7. Has - July 14th (WCS Valencia 2nd)
8. Stats - August 5th (GSL vs the World 2nd)
9. Serral - August 5th (GSL vs the World win)
10. Neeb - September 5th (GSL ro4)
11. HeRoMaRinE - September 9th (WCS Montreal Ro8)
12. Lambo - September 9th (WCS Montreal ro4)
13. TY - September 15th (GSL 2nd)
14. Maru - September 15th (3rd GSL win)
And most likely:
15. sOs - September 30th (Super tournament 2nd)
16. Classic - September 30th (Super tournament win)
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
October 24 2018 08:39 GMT
#34
On October 24 2018 09:54 argonautdice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2018 00:39 Fango wrote:
On October 12 2018 23:54 HolydaKing wrote:
Matches between 2011-11-15 and 2018-10-12.
Maybe the release order of the articles has to do with the time, like the date when the players had their peak achievement of the year? There's the month January in both Nerchio's and Showtime's picture, both had their best result in January and Nerchio had it first. I didn't check all players if Rogue would be the next one though.

Given their were no tournaments between Leipzig (where Showtime made the final) and Katowice that would make sense.

This also means the release order would look something like:

1. Nerchio (not really any notable acheivements)
2. ShoWTimE - January 28th (WCS Leipzig ro4)
3. Rogue - March 4th (IEM Katowice win)
4. Dark - either March 24th (GSL ro4) or April 8th (Super tournament 2nd)
5. Stats - April 8th (Super tournament win)
6. SpeCial - June 3rd (WCS Austin ro4)
7. Zest - June 28th (GSL 2nd)
8. HeRoMaRinE - July 14th (WCS Valencia ro4)
9. Has - July 14th (WCS Valencia 2nd)
10. Serral - August 5th (GSL vs the World win)
11. Neeb - September 5th (GSL ro4)
12. Lambo - September 9th (WCS Montreal ro4)
13. Maru - September 15th (3rd GSL win)
14. TY - September 15th (GSL 2nd)
15. sOs - September 30th (Super tournament 2nd)
16. Classic - September 30th (Super tournament win)

Though I expect Serral and Maru to be the last released for hype reasons.


Wow Fango is a genius. Got everything right except Stats (GSL vs World 2nd instead of Super Tournament #1 win), Heromarine (WCS Montreal Ro8 instead of Valencia Ro4??? makes no sense), and TY/Maru swap (which in retrospect to his sOs/Classic order should've been swapped).

Actual release order:
1. Nerchio (not really any notable acheivements)
2. ShoWTimE - January 28th (WCS Leipzig ro4)
3. Rogue - March 4th (IEM Katowice win)
4. Dark - either March 24th (GSL ro4) or April 8th (Super tournament 2nd)
5. SpeCial - June 3rd (WCS Austin ro4)
6. Zest - June 28th (GSL 2nd)
7. Has - July 14th (WCS Valencia 2nd)
8. Stats - August 5th (GSL vs the World 2nd)
9. Serral - August 5th (GSL vs the World win)
10. Neeb - September 5th (GSL ro4)
11. HeRoMaRinE - September 9th (WCS Montreal Ro8)
12. Lambo - September 9th (WCS Montreal ro4)
13. TY - September 15th (GSL 2nd)
14. Maru - September 15th (3rd GSL win)
And most likely:
15. sOs - September 30th (Super tournament 2nd)
16. Classic - September 30th (Super tournament win)


Since it's all been revealed by now, the focus was never on every player's best tournament of the year. It was one that we thought really summed up their narrative going into the Global Finals—or their Road to BlizzCon, if you will. We did this through a vote (similar to Power Ranks). In Heromarine's case for example, we thought the Ro8 elimination by TIME said a lot about where he stands. He's a good player and he's gradually improving, but losing a series like that really tells you he's not the finished article.

It just so happens that a lot of the defining moments were also the best placements of these players.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Xophy
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany79 Posts
October 24 2018 08:45 GMT
#35
On October 24 2018 00:18 Rodya wrote:
TY? Maru just beat him. Classic? Maru beat him. Serral? Maru crushed him. Rogue? Maru crushed him. Stats? Maru beat him. Zest? No. Neeb? Decimated.

At first glance it seems only Dark and sOs really have a shot at beating him based on past performances. Maybe Rogue as well. I'm hoping for sOs vs Maru finals then.


Come on now ... I don't want to take anything away from Maru's excellent 2018, but your delusional bias gets exceedingly annoying. To use similar logic:
Maru? Keen beat him in GSL S1. Maru? Classic beat him in GSL S1. Maru? sOs beat him in ST2. Maru? Stats beat him in GSLvsWorld. Maru? Classic beat him in ST1.
Additionally, Reynor (GSL S3), Rogue (GSL S2), TY (GSL S3) did give him a pretty good run for his money.
So stop pretending that noone has a shot against him, especially considering that he does not seem to excell that much in weekender tournaments (which Blizzcon basically boils down to after group stage).
He might be favored to win the tournament, but I do not think it's ex-ante as clear cut as you make it sound.
Dave4
Profile Joined August 2018
494 Posts
October 24 2018 10:17 GMT
#36
Maru is probably one of the strongest number 2 players since Jaedong or Yellow.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
October 24 2018 13:01 GMT
#37
On October 24 2018 19:17 Dave4 wrote:
Maru is probably one of the strongest number 2 players since Jaedong or Yellow.

Hm looking at this the number 2 player seems to be zerg usually, i guess you made a mistake here
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HelpMeGetBetter
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States764 Posts
October 24 2018 22:36 GMT
#38
how many viewers will a Serral vs Maru grand final get?
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
October 24 2018 22:45 GMT
#39
On October 25 2018 07:36 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
how many viewers will a Serral vs Maru grand final get?

Enough to guarantee blizz rigging the brackets to put them on opposite sides.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 25 2018 00:29 GMT
#40
On October 25 2018 07:36 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
how many viewers will a Serral vs Maru grand final get?


I'd say at least 60000.

But when's the last time we've actually ever gotten a 100% hype final/occurence?

Think about all the Neeb Serral matches that never happened in WCS.
hmerschman
Profile Joined April 2017
1 Post
October 25 2018 11:34 GMT
#41
Bless you for the Player Haters Ball ref.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-25 11:41:23
October 25 2018 11:39 GMT
#42
On October 25 2018 09:29 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2018 07:36 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
how many viewers will a Serral vs Maru grand final get?

But when's the last time we've actually ever gotten a 100% hype final/occurence?

Life vs sOs was pretty hype. But I don't think it was that hype going into the event. More something that just happened.

The Life vs Maru IEM final (which I think is still the most viewed sc2 match) was the last one I remember being what everyone wanted to see.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-25 11:41:28
October 25 2018 11:41 GMT
#43
On October 25 2018 20:39 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2018 09:29 Pandain wrote:
On October 25 2018 07:36 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
how many viewers will a Serral vs Maru grand final get?

But when's the last time we've actually ever gotten a 100% hype final/occurence?

Life vs sOs was pretty hype. As was the Life vs Maru IEM final (which I think is still the most viewed sc2 match).


HerO vs Polt at IEM Cologne 2014 was really exciting for the 10 people that stayed up to watch it. But damn those 10 people got spoiled. What a sick final that was.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
October 25 2018 11:55 GMT
#44
On October 25 2018 20:41 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2018 20:39 Fango wrote:
On October 25 2018 09:29 Pandain wrote:
On October 25 2018 07:36 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
how many viewers will a Serral vs Maru grand final get?

But when's the last time we've actually ever gotten a 100% hype final/occurence?

Life vs sOs was pretty hype. As was the Life vs Maru IEM final (which I think is still the most viewed sc2 match).


HerO vs Polt at IEM Cologne 2014 was really exciting for the 10 people that stayed up to watch it. But damn those 10 people got spoiled. What a sick final that was.

It was, but were people actually talking about a HerO Polt final before it happened? I honestly don't remember.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-25 12:13:43
October 25 2018 12:08 GMT
#45
On October 25 2018 20:55 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2018 20:41 Olli wrote:
On October 25 2018 20:39 Fango wrote:
On October 25 2018 09:29 Pandain wrote:
On October 25 2018 07:36 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
how many viewers will a Serral vs Maru grand final get?

But when's the last time we've actually ever gotten a 100% hype final/occurence?

Life vs sOs was pretty hype. As was the Life vs Maru IEM final (which I think is still the most viewed sc2 match).


HerO vs Polt at IEM Cologne 2014 was really exciting for the 10 people that stayed up to watch it. But damn those 10 people got spoiled. What a sick final that was.

It was, but were people actually talking about a HerO Polt final before it happened? I honestly don't remember.


Not at first, but after watching Polt dismantle Rain and Classic while HerO looked like (and probably was) the best PvTer in the world, and especially after that ridiculous tournament, people were extremely excited for the finals and it really delivered.

And really I just want people to remember that, because it never gets mentioned when great finals are brought up and it was probably better than most of the other finals that are ;(
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Rodya
Profile Joined January 2018
546 Posts
October 26 2018 13:04 GMT
#46
On October 25 2018 09:29 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2018 07:36 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
how many viewers will a Serral vs Maru grand final get?


I'd say at least 60000.

But when's the last time we've actually ever gotten a 100% hype final/occurence?

Think about all the Neeb Serral matches that never happened in WCS.

I mean Life vs PartinG was pretty epic. I honestly don't think that Serral vs Maru is the best grand finals anyway. I think it's Maru vs sOs.
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Dave4
Profile Joined August 2018
494 Posts
October 26 2018 13:09 GMT
#47
On October 26 2018 22:04 Rodya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2018 09:29 Pandain wrote:
On October 25 2018 07:36 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
how many viewers will a Serral vs Maru grand final get?


I'd say at least 60000.

But when's the last time we've actually ever gotten a 100% hype final/occurence?

Think about all the Neeb Serral matches that never happened in WCS.

I mean Life vs PartinG was pretty epic. I honestly don't think that Serral vs Maru is the best grand finals anyway. I think it's Maru vs sOs.

Serral vs anyone really will be hype, but he would probably just 4-0.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
October 26 2018 13:16 GMT
#48
On October 26 2018 22:04 Rodya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2018 09:29 Pandain wrote:
On October 25 2018 07:36 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
how many viewers will a Serral vs Maru grand final get?


I'd say at least 60000.

But when's the last time we've actually ever gotten a 100% hype final/occurence?

Think about all the Neeb Serral matches that never happened in WCS.

I mean Life vs PartinG was pretty epic. I honestly don't think that Serral vs Maru is the best grand finals anyway. I think it's Maru vs sOs.

Maru vs Serral is by far the best final in terms of hype. The viewership would probably be double what it would if it were something like Stats vs Classic.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
October 26 2018 13:24 GMT
#49
On October 26 2018 22:16 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2018 22:04 Rodya wrote:
On October 25 2018 09:29 Pandain wrote:
On October 25 2018 07:36 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
how many viewers will a Serral vs Maru grand final get?


I'd say at least 60000.

But when's the last time we've actually ever gotten a 100% hype final/occurence?

Think about all the Neeb Serral matches that never happened in WCS.

I mean Life vs PartinG was pretty epic. I honestly don't think that Serral vs Maru is the best grand finals anyway. I think it's Maru vs sOs.

Maru vs Serral is by far the best final in terms of hype. The viewership would probably be double what it would if it were something like Stats vs Classic.

For the general public for sure. Personally I'm not sure I could get through watching the stream without muting if that's the final so I'd rather have some other matches
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Rodya
Profile Joined January 2018
546 Posts
October 26 2018 13:32 GMT
#50
On October 26 2018 22:24 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2018 22:16 Fango wrote:
On October 26 2018 22:04 Rodya wrote:
On October 25 2018 09:29 Pandain wrote:
On October 25 2018 07:36 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
how many viewers will a Serral vs Maru grand final get?


I'd say at least 60000.

But when's the last time we've actually ever gotten a 100% hype final/occurence?

Think about all the Neeb Serral matches that never happened in WCS.

I mean Life vs PartinG was pretty epic. I honestly don't think that Serral vs Maru is the best grand finals anyway. I think it's Maru vs sOs.

Maru vs Serral is by far the best final in terms of hype. The viewership would probably be double what it would if it were something like Stats vs Classic.

For the general public for sure. Personally I'm not sure I could get through watching the stream without muting if that's the final so I'd rather have some other matches

This^

Also I dont' think that hype is defined by how many people would watch, I think it has to do with factors more related to the game itself. And I'm sorry I just honestly don't think that Serral would do well against Maru in a finals. Maru vs sOs would be pure epicness - The current best player in the world, the guy who is SUPPOSED to win, against the guy who always deprives us of those great narratives at Blizzcon.
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
October 26 2018 13:49 GMT
#51
On October 26 2018 22:24 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2018 22:16 Fango wrote:
On October 26 2018 22:04 Rodya wrote:
On October 25 2018 09:29 Pandain wrote:
On October 25 2018 07:36 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
how many viewers will a Serral vs Maru grand final get?


I'd say at least 60000.

But when's the last time we've actually ever gotten a 100% hype final/occurence?

Think about all the Neeb Serral matches that never happened in WCS.

I mean Life vs PartinG was pretty epic. I honestly don't think that Serral vs Maru is the best grand finals anyway. I think it's Maru vs sOs.

Maru vs Serral is by far the best final in terms of hype. The viewership would probably be double what it would if it were something like Stats vs Classic.

For the general public for sure. Personally I'm not sure I could get through watching the stream without muting if that's the final so I'd rather have some other matches

It would be good for sc2 put in that way. Personally I'd probably find the casters and Serral fans unbearable.

I also think Maru vs Dark would be the best finals in terms of producing a good series.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
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