Its open to interpretation, I guess, but when they took off his shackles, was that fat and muscle bulging from his legs, or just the pants? He looked pretty bulked up just as that door was closing behind him.
Anyways, according to the old SC manual, aren't most marines and bats excons who choose to join the corps instead of serving presumably worse sentences?
On May 19 2007 14:54 littlechava wrote: 6' 7" 363 holy crap
yea im guessing they meant pounds although it didn't specify if it was Kg nor do I know how heavy that is in KG.
kg would be around 700-800 lbs.
Trying to remain true to your nickname, aren't you?
For the really interested, type "<number> pounds in kg" in Google
363.00000 Kilograms = 800.27801 Pounds
Dbag, READ. If it was 363 LBS, that would make sense. If it was 363 KG, then thats obviously A LOT. Are you the guy that needs people to explain jokes and movies to you?
He's prolly in the same situation as Raynor was put in, a confederate marshall turned rebel when joined up with mengsk and then deemed a traitor when the terran dominion was formed (what spawned this was kerrigan's fall into the swarm). Maybe he is in this type of situation.
On May 19 2007 19:39 b_unnies wrote: hmm in the video it looks like he got buffed when he stepped onto the pedals
No it's his pants comming to losen up. Blizz didn't do a very good job there for like 1 second because the pant's orange colored leg looks just like a skin tone and it looks as if his ankles just got buffed up
SECTION 856.A: -SENTENCE. CRYOGENIC CONFINEMENT <LIFE TERM NO PAROLE>
CURRENT STATUS: SOLITARY CRYOGENIC
TERRAN MARINE MILITARY STATUS: --- ACTIVE ---
--------------------- ADDITIONAL NOTES:
quote:"HELL, ITS ABOUT TIME"
maybe i'm just making things up in my mind, but maybe he's blizzard's metaphor for what some people has coined as the "forgotten sons" or something...cryogenic confinment? ;o ;o
On May 19 2007 19:54 Myrmidon wrote: Wasn't there stuff about genetic manipulation to induce augmented muscles/physique in the original?
Yeah, basically everyone who got carted off to the middle of nowhere was somehow "altered" or "mutated" in some way, which is why they wanted them off Earth.
On May 19 2007 19:39 b_unnies wrote: hmm in the video it looks like he got buffed when he stepped onto the pedals
No it's his pants comming to losen up. Blizz didn't do a very good job there for like 1 second because the pant's orange colored leg looks just like a skin tone and it looks as if his ankles just got buffed up
I agree it looked like his skin in the youtube video but in the original video with better quality its easy to see its the pants.
On May 19 2007 19:54 Myrmidon wrote: Wasn't there stuff about genetic manipulation to induce augmented muscles/physique in the original?
Yeah, basically everyone who got carted off to the middle of nowhere was somehow "altered" or "mutated" in some way, which is why they wanted them off Earth.
Not sure where you're getting that.
Er...the original colonists primarily consisted of criminals, dissidents, any kind of social undesirables and essentially anyone who could threaten the power of the government.
While mutants may have fallen into some of these categories the purging of Earth did not target "alterees"
Anti-hero? Don't think so.
Most marines are criminals who are forced to undergo re-socialization, according to Vanilla's booklet.
Judging from the current success rate in criminal rehabilitation do you think that even so far in the future techniques could be sufficiently advanced so as to change someone with that kind of criminal record into the proverbial "good guy"?
Most likely the "resocialization" (aka brainwashing) can accomplish just enough to instill some sort of pride in their unit and military accomplishments and comradeship and so forth. (ie enough to allow them to function in the realm of military discipline while preserving the traditionally distasteful traits that might serve them well while facing an enemy)
I think anti-hero is a fairly correct term for this character.
As I understood it, the video of the marine getting his armor is to show you how Terran "train" marines so fast in the barracks: they basically take prisoners, put armor on them, hand them a gun and send them in the middle of the enemy.
On May 19 2007 19:54 Myrmidon wrote: Wasn't there stuff about genetic manipulation to induce augmented muscles/physique in the original?
Yeah, basically everyone who got carted off to the middle of nowhere was somehow "altered" or "mutated" in some way, which is why they wanted them off Earth.
Not sure where you're getting that.
Er...the original colonists primarily consisted of criminals, dissidents, any kind of social undesirables and essentially anyone who could threaten the power of the government.
While mutants may have fallen into some of these categories the purging of Earth did not target "alterees"
Most marines are criminals who are forced to undergo re-socialization, according to Vanilla's booklet.
Judging from the current success rate in criminal rehabilitation do you think that even so far in the future techniques could be sufficiently advanced so as to change someone with that kind of criminal record into the proverbial "good guy"?
Most likely the "resocialization" (aka brainwashing) can accomplish just enough to instill some sort of pride in their unit and military accomplishments and comradeship and so forth. (ie enough to allow them to function in the realm of military discipline while preserving the traditionally distasteful traits that might serve them well while facing an enemy)
I think anti-hero is a fairly correct term for this character.
Dude, everyone got these stuff straight from the instruction manual of the original starcraft CD. The resocialization was basically relayering someone's memories with other false ones, to get them to work for the confed marine corp.
He just looks like a confederate marine. The confederates used mostly re-socialized criminals, or kidnapped civilians, re-socialized them, got them buffed up (they were pretty much brainwashed and their passed lives were forgotten), and sent them off to fight to the death against the zerg. In the Starcraft novel "Speed of Darkness" it says that the marines are put in cryogenic tubes or something inbetween service, and have weekly resocializations. They're basically 'mindless' pwns who only know one thing; how to fight and how to serve the confederacy.
However, his armor is blue, which isn't a colour of the Confederacy. But the fact that he's in orange pants and shackles implies that he is, because only the confederates use criminals. The other rebel factions (ie. Sons of Korhal/Reynor) are 'free' soldiers. The UED also consisted of your average civilian recruit/draft.
Lastly, he has a skull and crossbones on his shoulder. The skull and crossbones is the logo of Omega Squadron, the most ruthless and violent faction of Confederates there is. Formed by only the most savage criminals and most intensely resocialized soldiers. They never made an appearence in Starcraft/BroodWar campaignes. However, their faction colour is black, not blue.
References of info: Starcraft 1 booklet Starcraft novels
Maybe the whole thing is just another loop hole in Blizzards lore. Ie: the whole lore controversy with Burning Crusade.
On May 20 2007 15:09 TeRRan`UseR wrote: He just looks like a confederate marine. The confederates used mostly re-socialized criminals, or kidnapped civilians, re-socialized them, got them buffed up (they were pretty much brainwashed and their passed lives were forgotten), and sent them off to fight to the death against the zerg. In the Starcraft novel "Speed of Darkness" it says that the marines are put in cryogenic tubes or something inbetween service, and have weekly resocializations. They're basically 'mindless' pwns who only know one thing; how to fight and how to serve the confederacy.
However, his armor is blue, which isn't a colour of the Confederacy. But the fact that he's in orange pants and shackles implies that he is, because only the confederates use criminals. The other rebel factions (ie. Sons of Korhal/Reynor) are 'free' soldiers. The UED also consisted of your average civilian recruit/draft.
Lastly, he has a skull and crossbones on his shoulder. The skull and crossbones is the logo of Omega Squadron, the most ruthless and violent faction of Confederates there is. Formed by only the most savage criminals and most intensely resocialized soldiers. They never made an appearence in Starcraft/BroodWar campaignes. However, their faction colour is black, not blue.
References of info: Starcraft 1 booklet Starcraft novels
Maybe the whole thing is just another loop hole in Blizzards lore. Ie: the whole lore controversy with Burning Crusade.
Thanks! I'm thinking he's definately part of some new Confederate faction. If we all remember, Edmund Duke and a long with most of Alpha squadron were killed by Karrigan near the end of BroodWar. With duke gone, and the back bone of the Confederate forces destroyed, they'd need something new.
I'm assuming that quite a few years have passed since Broodwar (based on the "Blizzard Artwork" video that shows a ginger/brown haired guy who's greying at the very end; an aging Jim Reynor?) and Tychus is apart of a new faction of Confederates; a faction that has been in the making for the whole time between the end of Brood War until now. Karrigan let all the survivors of the final battle live. Mengsk begins to rebuild his shattered army, and Reynor and Zeratual dissapear; we never hear anything of the Confederates. I think Tychus is the product of a new faction of Terrans that has been in the making for a long time to finally defeat the zerg; maybe this explains how hes 363lbs of muscle? You don't get like that over night. Imagine an entire faction of marines of this physique; sounds like a new weapon to me.
6 foot 7 incheas thats like the size of Shaq but two times his weight class. But remember anyone whos in jail is doing mass weights thats just there passtime as ours is Battle.net so BOO YA go to jail get some pecks quit sc join the terrans ! sounds like a goal.....
On May 25 2007 13:05 orionClan wrote: 6 foot 7 incheas thats like the size of Shaq but two times his weight class. But remember anyone whos in jail is doing mass weights thats just there passtime as ours is Battle.net so BOO YA go to jail get some pecks quit sc join the terrans ! sounds like a goal.....
haaa.....
On May 25 2007 13:22 gg_hertzz wrote: Shaq is 7' and is around 300 lbs.
Well this is about 500 years from now. Human are geting bigger and bigger. Hell by then this guy could just be a slightly larger then normal human male.
On May 21 2007 00:04 TeRRan`UseR wrote: If we all remember, Edmund Duke and a long with most of Alpha squadron were killed by Karrigan near the end of BroodWar.
On May 21 2007 00:04 TeRRan`UseR wrote: If we all remember, Edmund Duke and a long with most of Alpha squadron were killed by Karrigan near the end of BroodWar.
Duke was killed by the manly protoss though.
Duke and Fenix were both killed in the same Zerg mission (near the end of BroodWar). I know this because I recently finished (finally) the campaign for BW.
Yes, you kill duke and fenix together in one mission near the end of the zerg campaigne.
I'm calling it now: The confederates are back and more badass than ever before.
On May 25 2007 12:30 CharlieMurphy wrote: But Tychus is not from earth it says he was born on Mar Sara.
I'm not too sure what your point is. The Starcraft story line didn't begin with the colonists leaving earth; it takes place long after that; that's just how they came to be. Many generations have passed since then.
The confederates used any form of criminal they could get their hands on. The fact that he was born on Mar Sara will have some form of significance. Maybe everyone he ever loved was killed by the Zerg while he was in prison?
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