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GSL RO8 Preview: Maru vs Rogue, Classic vs ByuN - Page 2

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seopthi
Profile Blog Joined December 2014
399 Posts
June 06 2018 00:57 GMT
#21
On June 06 2018 07:37 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2018 07:20 ThunderJunk wrote:
You just called stats inconsistent. What world are you living in, OP?

ByuN deeply examined Stats' playstyle, and came up with a style of play that counters it specifically. That's not due to Stats having shaky consistency, that's due to him being TOO consistent.

Anyways...

Hard to say who is gonna advance out of these matches. Every story in the Ro8 is an exciting one.

The Stats who's so consistant he lost to SouL at Katowice?


Since every player has missteps like this, then noone would have to be called consistent. Some people call Inno consistent, while he also lost single matches to 3rd tier players on numerous occasions or had virtually no results in 2016 season. Stats, soO, or Gumiho have lost to people like souL but still can be classified among the most consistent players
Ryu3600
Profile Joined January 2016
Canada470 Posts
June 06 2018 01:03 GMT
#22
Go Go Maru!
Maru is the best Terran ever.
yangluphil
Profile Joined July 2015
318 Posts
June 06 2018 02:54 GMT
#23
On June 06 2018 07:37 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2018 07:20 ThunderJunk wrote:
You just called stats inconsistent. What world are you living in, OP?

ByuN deeply examined Stats' playstyle, and came up with a style of play that counters it specifically. That's not due to Stats having shaky consistency, that's due to him being TOO consistent.

Anyways...

Hard to say who is gonna advance out of these matches. Every story in the Ro8 is an exciting one.

The Stats who's so consistant he lost to SouL at Katowice?

PvT heavily favors the aggressor, no matter who you are and what race you play. You can't consistently defend your way through this matchup. The room for error in early game is too small compared with ZvT or PvZ.
Neither party will be missed.
genji11111
Profile Joined May 2018
12 Posts
June 06 2018 05:27 GMT
#24
(T)ByuN 2:0 (P)Stats and then 2:1 (P)Stats shows that he has prepared in tvp, also classic is very strong in pvt
i guess both bo5 will be 3:2, who to be advanced is not surprising
KappaKingPrime
Profile Joined May 2014
United States468 Posts
June 06 2018 06:34 GMT
#25
(T)Maru 3-1 (Z)Rogue
(P)Classic 3-0 (T)ByuN
Veluvian
Profile Joined December 2011
Bulgaria256 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-06 06:44:40
June 06 2018 06:42 GMT
#26
Classic is supposed to tear Byun apart. I am pretty sure that he is very happy with the results of Group D, because actually sOs and Stats could eventually change Classic's plans. If Rogue plays with the same passion and skill just like he did last year against Innovation, Maru won't be able to continue, but we shall see, still they seem very equal. Maru defeated Dark this year twice, but Rogue is very different opponent.
The problem for Classic is not Byun, but the winner from the other match because he will be his ultimate challange which will show us is he finally ready for a big final match again just like old times.
In such matches with long preparations we've witnessed that anything is possible, so we shall see. For now I completely agree with the predictions in the article.
Honestly this year I'd like to see a champion that is not terran after three Code S Terran champs (Gumi, Inno, Maru), unless TY finally make it, but I've lost so much energy to see his failures for years.
Oz; MMA; Rain; sOs; Classic, Soulkey, TY, Dark
dummy1
Profile Blog Joined April 2018
420 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-06 07:46:06
June 06 2018 07:35 GMT
#27
I think Maru can do it. He will be your champion.
https://www.youtube.com/c/DepressingStarcraft <- Maru VODs and stuff | END REGION-LOCK NOW
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8217 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-06 08:20:26
June 06 2018 08:19 GMT
#28
This OP is very weird on the Maru-Rogue matchup.

First of all, they actually already met. Strange not to mention Rogue's 3-2 victory at the semifinals, even, of IEM Katowice. Rogue won (as he did against TY) precisely by avoiding the very late-game, which has been his style for some time now. Extremely powerful and well-executed timing attacks mixed with cheeses and early pressures.

Second, Maru did not "obliterate" Zanster at all. The storyline of that match was precisely that the foreigner should actually have taken at least one game of the best TvZ in the world. At times, Zanster had Maru on his heels but ultimately made some bad decisions.

I agree that it will be a close match, 3-2 for any one of the two. Marauder/Viking buffs should help Maru in the mid-game.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
stevemachine17
Profile Joined April 2017
45 Posts
June 06 2018 09:23 GMT
#29
I was shocked how good byun and classic look. My prediction is Mary and classic
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
June 06 2018 09:44 GMT
#30
It's the finals already basically, thanks for the cast Tastosis and crew!
Support your esport!
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
June 06 2018 12:11 GMT
#31
Byun should not be underestimated. Yes Classic is tough and might be the better Starcraft player measured by gameplay skill, but the outcome also depends on experience how to win in a tournament.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13324 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-06 12:50:49
June 06 2018 12:23 GMT
#32
On June 06 2018 21:11 [F_]aths wrote:
Byun should not be underestimated. Yes Classic is tough and might be the better Starcraft player measured by gameplay skill, but the outcome also depends on experience how to win in a tournament.

Classic has more experience in how to win in tournaments though.
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States738 Posts
June 06 2018 20:35 GMT
#33
On June 06 2018 09:36 Executer08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2018 09:12 ThunderJunk wrote:
On June 06 2018 08:50 Executer08 wrote:
On June 06 2018 08:19 ThunderJunk wrote:
On June 06 2018 07:37 Fango wrote:
On June 06 2018 07:20 ThunderJunk wrote:
You just called stats inconsistent. What world are you living in, OP?

ByuN deeply examined Stats' playstyle, and came up with a style of play that counters it specifically. That's not due to Stats having shaky consistency, that's due to him being TOO consistent.

Anyways...

Hard to say who is gonna advance out of these matches. Every story in the Ro8 is an exciting one.

The Stats who's so consistant he lost to SouL at Katowice?



Yes. That one. Game one of that series, Soul used a cheesy build with a precise timing that targeted Stats' highly consistent building placement, and did enough damage to put himself very far ahead. Game two, he lost. Game 3, he exploited the same building placement weakness to take the series.

Stats loses because he is too consistent.


thats not the consistent (generic) that people mean when they talk about a consistent (enduring, stable) playstyle. when you play too predictably and too middle of the road, you will get inconsistent results, especially in tournaments with long preparation time like the gsl, as that is easily exploitable in multiple ways. sure, technically your choice of word is not incorrect, but the context is wrong.


Then it becomes, "Stats had a less effective season because his playstyle was too predictable." This is closer to the truth, and less confusing then, "Stats had an inconsistent season because his playstyle was too predictable". Notice how the second statement just kind of feels wrong.


i dont see how that first version is better and the second one feels perfectly fine to me :D as i said, technically you are not wrong, but the context is the deciding factor here and in that OP and his statement are completely accurate.



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