• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 22:46
CEST 04:46
KST 11:46
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4)5TL.net Map Contest #21 - Finalists4Team TLMC #5: Vote to Decide Ladder Maps!0
Community News
5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)59Weekly Cups (Sept 29-Oct 5): MaxPax triples up3PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition245.0.15 Balance Patch Notes (Live version)119$2,500 WardiTV TL Map Contest Tournament 154
StarCraft 2
General
Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away 5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8) Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced! 5.0.15 Balance Patch Notes (Live version)
Tourneys
SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $2,500 WardiTV TL Map Contest Tournament 15
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment Mutation # 493 Quick Killers Mutation # 492 Get Out More Mutation # 491 Night Drive
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ I'm making videos again BW General Discussion Question regarding recent ASL Bisu vs Larva game Whose hotkey signature is this?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Ro8 Day 4 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [ASL20] Ro8 Day 3
Strategy
Current Meta TvZ Theorycraft - Improving on State of the Art Proposed Glossary of Strategic Uncertainty 9 hatch vs 10 hatch vs 12 hatch
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread Dawn of War IV Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640} TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Stop the Construction YouTube Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
How "Not Like Us" ripped of…
Peanutsc
From Tilt to Ragequit:The Ps…
TrAiDoS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1233 users

Korea vs. World set to play out in WESG playoffs

Forum Index > SC2 General
31 CommentsPost a Reply
Normal
TL.net ESPORTS
Profile Joined July 2011
4 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-21 22:13:00
March 16 2018 18:12 GMT
#1
[image loading]
World Electronic Sports Games 2017: Main Event


The $400,000 WESG main event continued in Haikou, China, as sixteen players competed in the final group stage with playoff spots on the line.

[image loading]

Fifteen-year-old Italian Zerg player (Wiki)Reynor was the star of the final group stage, adding top foreign Terran (Wiki)SpeCial to his list of victims in what is turning into his breakout tournament. Meanwhile, (Wiki)Dark, (Wiki)Classic, and (Wiki)Maru upheld Korea's reputation as StarCraft's dominant nation, remaining undefeated in series (18-0 overall) in the tournament. (Wiki)uThermal came closest to giving the Koreans pause, dragging Classic into a tight, five game series.

The eight-player playoff bracket has been drawn, and the age-old Korea vs foreigners storyline is set to unfold. In bygone years, a Korean sweep of the top three spots would have been a foregone conclusion in an international tournament. The next few days will tell us how much StarCraft has changed—or if it has changed at all.

[image loading]


Recap by: Wax
Facebook Twitter Reddit
TL+ Member
arkedos
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1426 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-16 18:23:42
March 16 2018 18:20 GMT
#2
Although it is unlikely, It would be great that one of the non koreans beat one of the koreans. A little upset to spice things up.
Usually I would give Scarlett the highest chances here. But currently she seems not to be 100% on top of her game.

But still this will be an interesting tournament.
love esports - hate homophobia
Liman
Profile Joined July 2012
Serbia681 Posts
March 16 2018 18:22 GMT
#3
Tough luck world :D
Freelancer veteran
ToXavieR
Profile Joined April 2017
Cuba19 Posts
March 16 2018 18:49 GMT
#4
Less and less terrans in every bracket
Tournament organizer and host. Love esports!
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4954 Posts
March 16 2018 18:56 GMT
#5
Maru is blessing us with an amazing tournament, Thank you Lord MARU
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Jimmon
Profile Joined May 2011
United States112 Posts
March 16 2018 18:57 GMT
#6
On March 17 2018 03:49 ToXavieR wrote:
Less and less terrans in every bracket


...

Less and less Terrans and Protoss... More and more Zerg.
I love LOveRH
Corvuuss
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
Austria354 Posts
March 16 2018 19:02 GMT
#7
On March 17 2018 03:20 arkedos wrote:
Although it is unlikely, It would be great that one of the non koreans beat one of the koreans. A little upset to spice things up.
Usually I would give Scarlett the highest chances here. But currently she seems not to be 100% on top of her game.

But still this will be an interesting tournament.


I think Serral is the most likely as he has done it recently
I am a slave of Golden from now on. Obey a supreme leader of StarCraft 2 or you get banned. I am really glad to be citizen of Democratic republic of Golden.
yubo56
Profile Joined May 2014
689 Posts
March 16 2018 19:03 GMT
#8
On March 17 2018 03:49 ToXavieR wrote:
Less and less terrans in every bracket


I don't know what you're watching, the number of koreans looks pretty constant from Ro32 to Ro8 and probably will stay constant until the Ro4 bracket
Jung Yoon Jong fighting, even after retirement! Feel better soon.
Esanim
Profile Joined August 2012
2 Posts
March 16 2018 19:08 GMT
#9
Zergs are very strong these days.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
March 16 2018 19:15 GMT
#10
Maru solo carrying Terran yet again
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
William paradise
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
1753 Posts
March 16 2018 19:31 GMT
#11
Scarlett has the best chance
ok
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8244 Posts
March 16 2018 19:40 GMT
#12
I hope Reynor can take a game off Maru. That would already be quite an accomplishment in itself.
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
March 16 2018 19:42 GMT
#13
Just imagine if Wunderkind Reynor would actually beat Maru... that'd be a break out tourney alright. Anyhow, the upper bracket looks really interesting to follow (even if Reynor should fail to pull off a miracle)!
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
TrueStorm
Profile Joined December 2017
29 Posts
March 16 2018 19:54 GMT
#14
Reynor may defeat Maru, given Reynor has been doing well. Maybe Elazer can defeat Classic.
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
March 16 2018 20:12 GMT
#15
On March 17 2018 03:57 Jimmon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 03:49 ToXavieR wrote:
Less and less terrans in every bracket


...

Less and less Terrans and Protoss... More and more Zerg.

There were barely any top Protoss and Terran players in this tournament, while pretty much every top Zerg from outside Korea was in it. With how WESG awards its seeds a lot of the early rounds are players getting completely outclassed, unless you really think that Has is better than Serral and that Strike and Hut are better than Scarlett.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13988 Posts
March 16 2018 20:20 GMT
#16
Classic plox
Chain 1 Arthalion Chain 2 Urgula Chain 3 Mululu Chain 4 Lukias
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
March 16 2018 20:32 GMT
#17
wow 4 foreigner vs korean matchups in ro8!

serral counts as korean btw
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
March 16 2018 20:54 GMT
#18
On March 17 2018 05:12 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 03:57 Jimmon wrote:
On March 17 2018 03:49 ToXavieR wrote:
Less and less terrans in every bracket


...

Less and less Terrans and Protoss... More and more Zerg.

There were barely any top Protoss and Terran players in this tournament, while pretty much every top Zerg from outside Korea was in it. With how WESG awards its seeds a lot of the early rounds are players getting completely outclassed, unless you really think that Has is better than Serral and that Strike and Hut are better than Scarlett.


To be fair, every top terran and protoss outside of korea was in that tourney as well. the list isnt very long, though...
Jj_82
Profile Joined December 2012
Swaziland419 Posts
March 16 2018 21:09 GMT
#19
Serral vs. Neeb being THE match in the round of eight. The rest is easy.
Once rode a waterslide with PartinG and TaeJa ✌
Tommy131313
Profile Joined May 2016
Germany156 Posts
March 16 2018 21:13 GMT
#20
On March 17 2018 05:12 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 03:57 Jimmon wrote:
On March 17 2018 03:49 ToXavieR wrote:
Less and less terrans in every bracket


...

Less and less Terrans and Protoss... More and more Zerg.

There were barely any top Protoss and Terran players in this tournament, while pretty much every top Zerg from outside Korea was in it. With how WESG awards its seeds a lot of the early rounds are players getting completely outclassed, unless you really think that Has is better than Serral and that Strike and Hut are better than Scarlett.



This!
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
March 16 2018 21:17 GMT
#21
Looks like amazing games will be played. All I can say.
Life?
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
March 16 2018 21:18 GMT
#22
Maru is playing out of his mind, I can't see him losing this tournament
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Fran_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1024 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-16 21:33:03
March 16 2018 21:28 GMT
#23
Reynor <3

Everyone board the hype train... Choo Choo! Chagga chagga chagga chagga... Choo Choo!
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
March 16 2018 21:34 GMT
#24
On March 17 2018 03:20 arkedos wrote:
Although it is unlikely, It would be great that one of the non koreans beat one of the koreans. A little upset to spice things up.
Usually I would give Scarlett the highest chances here. But currently she seems not to be 100% on top of her game.

But still this will be an interesting tournament.


Unfortunately I think it's a pipe dream for a Korean to lose to a foreigner, at least in this tournament.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
WhatANova
Profile Joined March 2018
3 Posts
March 17 2018 02:48 GMT
#25
Scarlett GG!
Dekker
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany169 Posts
March 17 2018 12:02 GMT
#26
On March 17 2018 06:34 mierin wrote:
Unfortunately I think it's a pipe dream for a Korean to lose to a foreigner, at least in this tournament.


Seems like Serral wants to have a word with you. Well played though. Now lets hope Maru takes it home tomorrow.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12904 Posts
March 17 2018 17:48 GMT
#27
On March 17 2018 05:12 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 03:57 Jimmon wrote:
On March 17 2018 03:49 ToXavieR wrote:
Less and less terrans in every bracket


...

Less and less Terrans and Protoss... More and more Zerg.

There were barely any top Protoss and Terran players in this tournament, while pretty much every top Zerg from outside Korea was in it. With how WESG awards its seeds a lot of the early rounds are players getting completely outclassed, unless you really think that Has is better than Serral and that Strike and Hut are better than Scarlett.

Because they lost in the qualifiers to zergs?
WriterMaru
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
March 17 2018 22:17 GMT
#28
On March 17 2018 03:57 Jimmon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 03:49 ToXavieR wrote:
Less and less terrans in every bracket


...

Less and less Terrans and Protoss... More and more Zerg.

I used to watch a ton of SC2 tourneys. I would go out of my way to clear up my schedule, but these days I can take it or leave it, and usually tend to leave it due to all the zvz's.
$♥$
LTCM
Profile Joined May 2017
174 Posts
March 18 2018 01:29 GMT
#29
On March 18 2018 07:17 Devolved wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2018 03:57 Jimmon wrote:
On March 17 2018 03:49 ToXavieR wrote:
Less and less terrans in every bracket


...

Less and less Terrans and Protoss... More and more Zerg.

I used to watch a ton of SC2 tourneys. I would go out of my way to clear up my schedule, but these days I can take it or leave it, and usually tend to leave it due to all the zvz's.


Same here. After blizzcon last year I haven't watch more than a handful of matches. The number of zvzs is completely off-putting.
Byun is a convicted match-fixer.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
March 18 2018 01:31 GMT
#30
On March 18 2018 10:29 LTCM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2018 07:17 Devolved wrote:
On March 17 2018 03:57 Jimmon wrote:
On March 17 2018 03:49 ToXavieR wrote:
Less and less terrans in every bracket


...

Less and less Terrans and Protoss... More and more Zerg.

I used to watch a ton of SC2 tourneys. I would go out of my way to clear up my schedule, but these days I can take it or leave it, and usually tend to leave it due to all the zvz's.


Same here. After blizzcon last year I haven't watch more than a handful of matches. The number of zvzs is completely off-putting.

i partly agree but it does kinda seem like ZvZ as a matchup has improved a lot lately
waiting2Bbanned
Profile Joined November 2015
United States154 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-18 05:35:18
March 18 2018 05:33 GMT
#31
On March 18 2018 10:29 LTCM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2018 07:17 Devolved wrote:
On March 17 2018 03:57 Jimmon wrote:
On March 17 2018 03:49 ToXavieR wrote:
Less and less terrans in every bracket


...

Less and less Terrans and Protoss... More and more Zerg.

I used to watch a ton of SC2 tourneys. I would go out of my way to clear up my schedule, but these days I can take it or leave it, and usually tend to leave it due to all the zvz's.


Same here. After blizzcon last year I haven't watch more than a handful of matches. The number of zvzs is completely off-putting.

..while at the same time terran balance whine is not off-putting at all, it's just a SC constant we've all learn to live with since supply depots were first created
"If you are going to break the law, do it with two thousand people.. and Mozart." - Howard Zinn
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15995 Posts
March 18 2018 08:50 GMT
#32
On March 18 2018 14:33 waiting2Bbanned wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2018 10:29 LTCM wrote:
On March 18 2018 07:17 Devolved wrote:
On March 17 2018 03:57 Jimmon wrote:
On March 17 2018 03:49 ToXavieR wrote:
Less and less terrans in every bracket


...

Less and less Terrans and Protoss... More and more Zerg.

I used to watch a ton of SC2 tourneys. I would go out of my way to clear up my schedule, but these days I can take it or leave it, and usually tend to leave it due to all the zvz's.


Same here. After blizzcon last year I haven't watch more than a handful of matches. The number of zvzs is completely off-putting.

..while at the same time terran balance whine is not off-putting at all, it's just a SC constant we've all learn to live with since supply depots were first created

Terrans should learn from the morally superior Zerg and Protoss players who never whine and instead focus on getting better
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Normal
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 14m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 170
PiLiPiLi 27
StarCraft: Brood War
Noble 25
Icarus 9
Dota 2
monkeys_forever495
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 707
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 185
Stewie2K86
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King41
Other Games
summit1g6203
C9.Mang0336
WinterStarcraft183
ViBE174
Skadoodle161
UpATreeSC112
JuggernautJason17
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick870
BasetradeTV90
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 1
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• Ler29
League of Legends
• Doublelift3950
• Stunt237
Upcoming Events
Korean StarCraft League
14m
davetesta20
CranKy Ducklings
7h 14m
Map Test Tournament
8h 14m
OSC
12h 14m
[BSL 2025] Weekly
15h 14m
Safe House 2
15h 14m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 7h
Map Test Tournament
1d 8h
OSC
1d 9h
IPSL
1d 16h
Bonyth vs Art_Of_Turtle
Razz vs rasowy
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Barracks vs Snow
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Soma vs Bisu
The PondCast
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS2
Maestros of the Game
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
WardiTV TLMC #15
EC S1
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Offline Finals
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.