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terrafreako
Profile Joined March 2017
28 Posts
October 11 2017 13:58 GMT
#101
Hi guys,

Im glad to hear a discussion right now about the lag of diversive points of views which effects the maps.

I see the same problem here. And im glad to read Charoisaurs post.

Hes right when he says every map delivers options for a toxic gameplay for abuse of builds etc. thats absoolutly normal and totally acceptable for a strategical game where every game (on other maps here) have different expectations which lead into different exectutions to play with. Thats the fun about strategical games dont u get this? At least we need more of experimental maps and everyone who is winning about some abuse on some map just drives into stupidness that we accept only standart maps. It reminds me on tennis where both have their clear spot to play from etc. It reminds me also of a commentate that he expects in esports to be a map like a referee where less influences should happen to the metagame itself. Thats an absolutly NOGO to me for a strategical game. I expect exactly the opposite, that every map needs another understanding how to play with this to also switch arround race advantagens/disadvantages a bit and let the balanace get out of controlle here and there. This game offers still enough options that u are able to find ways arround some stuff. The only problem maybe are overpowered units which could end the game pretty soon. See the oracle problem with hydras right now. But thats overall a balance problem and not maps should be blamed here. If balance requires only standart maps than something is clearly wrong and stucked in development of the game. So if u want to see more standart builds and standart maps go ahead and try to keep the rest of the community whic is adepted to this or just risk something and try to get with fancy stuff players back who get interessted again or even risk to lose the rest of ur standart maps fans here. But we should be aware not to split here the commuinty in standart map friendly ones and the haters. Thats clearly to stupid simple that it can be even true. ONE THING IS CLEAR. PLAYERS EXPECT MORE VARIETY OF MAPS. SO I THINK OVERALL THIS LITTLE COMMUNITY HERE IS MAKING THE TRAIN AND NOT THE OVERALL COMMUNITY WHICH VOTED MAYBE CLEARLY DIFFERENT. Thats also why i think blizzard itself should make this job with MAPCONTESTS to reach a way bigger playerbase and to get a way more clear sign what the big player base wants, required that they are interessted in what the commuinty wants. Im sure it clearly shined out for everyone that we expect more maps freakier maps bigger maps 4 player maps etc all stuff to think about. I know pro players hate 4 players maps and i talked to avex to this and asked for his oppinion and he made clear he really dislikes them cause of several reasons. I see the point here that we have no more 4 player map left which dont gives anymore an option for interessting spawn positions. If u see this as problem to say at least only 2 player maps are cool and we make them bigger to solve the problem is just another part of deleting an interessting part of the gamestart WHICH ARE SPAWN POSITIONS which influence or can influence heavy the way of the game from the start on. I admit that pros dislike it and propably they all would eliminate them by veto if they can but i dont see this as problem. Thats a pro player problem at least which can blizzard easily fix by just adding 2 other maps to the mappool or other ways by no include them into tournament pools which i wouldv clearly dislike aswell. At least to say 4 player maps are bad etc is a way of making the game again smaller and less interessting to me.

Have a nice day!
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3751 Posts
October 11 2017 15:03 GMT
#102
Is it me or does Blackpink is on superficial level at least similar to Cloud Kingdom.
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