EPTThe truth is the gap in skill between different regions has never been lower as the scene matures, but the skill level overall has never been higher. With players retiring and less people overall competing for spots of course its easier for foreigners - or koreans who do compete - to qualify. But having followed Code S since 2010 I can say if you are interested in high level play its better than ever. If you are only interested in the fortunes of has-beens or your fan-faves, you may be out of luck in this particular season.
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Elwar
953 Posts
The truth is the gap in skill between different regions has never been lower as the scene matures, but the skill level overall has never been higher. With players retiring and less people overall competing for spots of course its easier for foreigners - or koreans who do compete - to qualify. But having followed Code S since 2010 I can say if you are interested in high level play its better than ever. If you are only interested in the fortunes of has-beens or your fan-faves, you may be out of luck in this particular season. | ||
Olli
Austria24422 Posts
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neutralrobot
Australia1025 Posts
On June 25 2017 17:51 Charoisaur wrote: I don't understand this logic. When koreans lose to foreigners it's "they could have played better, their fault" but when foreigners lose to koreans it's "koreans preventing the local scene to grow, ban them!" If you're arguing that the best players should qualify, then that should also apply to WCS. Right now foreigners are preventing the growth of the korean scene. Well, in all fairness, I can't claim to know what's right or best here. Maybe WCS should open up again, or maybe GSL should become region locked, or some other solution... The Korean scene has taken a hit, and I'm not sure what the best way to grow it back more might be. I didn't especially like the strict region locking when they implemented it, personally. Has it given the foreign scene more room to grow? (Honest question, I don't follow the foreign scenes at all these days). There was a time when there was pretty much zero chance for this many foreigners to get into the GSL, and Koreans were (almost) always the favourite to win any tournament they were in, regardless of who else was in it. We are not at a point where we're seeing that kind of dominance from the foreign scene, but still I could agree that it seems like the region locking rules were designed for another era. My comment wasn't really meant to address the whole conversation about this. | ||
Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On June 25 2017 18:10 DieuCure wrote: Rofl nothing wrong really ? Most important qualifier of the year = randoms bo3 groups Even WCS challenger is better If you look at the groups, they basically seed 2 good players in each group and randomise the rest. They would've done the same thing with Code A. | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On June 25 2017 18:11 Elwar wrote: This thread is seriously pathetic. A bunch of foreigners have done really well, beating koreans and everyone is upset. Flip it around, why do koreans who can't even beat foreigners in qualifiers "deserve" a spot in GSL? The truth is the gap in skill between different regions has never been lower as the scene matures, but the skill level overall has never been higher. With players retiring and less people overall competing for spots of course its easier for foreigners - or koreans who do compete - to qualify. But having followed Code S since 2010 I can say if you are interested in high level play its better than ever. If you are only interested in the fortunes of has-beens or your fan-faves, you may be out of luck in this particular season. I too have followed the scene since 2010 and I disagree. What now? | ||
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bulya
Israel386 Posts
All Terran foreigners did it. All Zerg foreigners apart for Johsnow did it. Hmm... interesting. | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On June 25 2017 18:11 Inflicted wrote: If you look at the groups, they basically seed 2 good players in each group and randomise the rest. They would've done the same thing with Code A. Code A was bo5, which is a big difference, like no noregret in ro32. | ||
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Elentos
55560 Posts
On June 25 2017 18:12 pvsnp wrote: I can't imagine that the Koreans are not at least a little pissed about the foreigners in Code S. One is a novelty, two a curiosity, but five!? Professional pride has to object to that. I'll be upset if GuMiho doesn't pick Noregret | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On June 25 2017 18:13 Elentos wrote: I'll be upset if GuMiho doesn't pick Noregret Oh definitely. I expect the top-tier Koreans to step up and make a statement in the next few months, here in Season 3 and in GSL vs the World. Well, I for one will be keenly interested to see if any of the foreigners manage to make it to Ro16. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On June 25 2017 18:13 DieuCure wrote: Code A was bo5, which is a big difference, like no noregret in ro32. NoRegret went 4-2 vs Impact this qualifier so that's quite a bold claim. | ||
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ilikeredheads
Canada1995 Posts
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On June 25 2017 18:13 Elentos wrote: I'll be upset if GuMiho doesn't pick Noregret Noregret will not be in ro16 | ||
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Elentos
55560 Posts
On June 25 2017 18:13 DieuCure wrote: Code A was bo5, which is a big difference, like no noregret in ro32. Code A was bo5 single elimination exactly 5 seasons and everyone hated it. Before that it was GSL style groups. | ||
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Elwar
953 Posts
On June 25 2017 18:12 Olli wrote:I too have followed the scene since 2010 and I disagree. What now? What now? You disagree with someone about something. Thats it. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
GSL champion and runner up can pick a player each in ro32. | ||
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
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AshC
United States328 Posts
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On June 25 2017 18:14 Ej_ wrote: GSL champion and runner up can pick a player each in ro32. Ah, didnt know, thx | ||
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
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