• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:04
CEST 02:04
KST 09:04
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy18ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
$5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy1GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding0Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win0[BSL22] RO32 Group Stage4Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6
StarCraft 2
General
BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone
Brood War
General
so ive been playing broodwar for a week straight. Gypsy to Korea ASL21 General Discussion Pros React To: JaeDong vs Queen [BSL22] RO32 Group Stage
Tourneys
[BSL22] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CEST [BSL22] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CEST 🌍 Weekly Foreign Showmatches [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Loot Boxes—Emotions, And Why…
TrAiDoS
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Electronics
mantequilla
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2364 users

Korea Weekly - May 14 - Group Selection Buy & Sell

Forum Index > SC2 General
16 CommentsPost a Reply

Korea Weekly - May 14 - Group Selection Buy & Sell

Text byTL.net ESPORTS
Graphics byshiroiusagi
May 14th, 2017 12:21 GMT
  • Korea Weekly
  • Buy&Sell


The Weekly Preview

by hexhaven
[image loading] - hexhaven

The Final Journey

What a long, arduous process it’s been to get here. This will be the ninth and last week in the pennant race of the SSL Premier Division. The format has served some players particularly well, while others have been languishing, desperately trying to stave off the inevitable. After the final day of matches, four players will advance to the Post Season, vying for the coveted star league title. Out of these four, the one to take the first place in the pennant race will guarantee themselves a spot in the grand finals, while the other three will have to duke it out amongst themselves.

One player gets a direct ticket to the second season of the SSL, and a guaranteed spot in the Premier Division. Two players will be in danger of being relegated to the Challenge Division next season, but they will be given ample opportunities to hold their own. One player will be precariously close to relegation, with just a single day’s worth of matches to keep their head above water. And finally, the last two players will be unceremoniously dropped from the Premier Division with little fanfare. What’s certain, even though it’s the last week, is that (almost) everything is still up in the air.

The Ascended

INnoVation has spent more time on the top of the scoreboard than any other player in the pennant race. He holds both the best map score and the best match score. There’s only one last hurdle on his way, can he take down Stats to ensure his place in the grand finals? It’s been just shy of six months since his last premier title, and it’s been roughly a year and a half since his last star league title. We’ve titled The Machine as the best player in the world several times over the years, and he’s again on the cusp of something great. Of course, if he takes down Stats, he’ll have to take down the finalist, but topping the score board here would give him an edge the others would certainly envy.

Meanwhile, Solar is hot on the Terran’s heels, vying for the top position, and especially that guaranteed spot in the grand finals. Crucially for the two players, they’re tied in their match scores, but their individual map scores differ enough to make this an uneven fight. Solar needs to win this week, and INnoVation has to lose if the Zerg wishes to bypass most of the Post Season matches. And lest we forget, it’s Solar who’s the reigning SSL champion. He wants to defend his title with passion, with skill and with the deep burning desire that stems from a potential back-to-back star league victory.

The Aspiring

A total of six players comprise the absolute quagmire that is the middle ranks of the scoreboard. ByuL and Stats are both 5-3, with still a real chance of improving their position. Maru, aLive, Dark and Patience are all 4-4, trying to stave off relegation and climb the ranks enough to make it to the Post Season. Now more than ever it’s do or die for all of them. Besides the chance at the title that the Post Season provides, even the fifth place is infinitely more desirable than the sixth place. At the same time, placing sixth or seventh is again infinitely more desirable than placing eighth. None of the four players are playing against each other, which means that they will both have to win their own match and pray to all the StarCraft pantheons that the others lose theirs.


The Relegated

There’s really no way around it. Both Zest and sOs have suffered terrible fates with the format, holding abysmal 1-7 match scores. There’s no honest hope for either player to make it even to the Fast Lane. Rather, they will be relegated to the Challenge division for the next season. Some of the mightiest Protoss players the scene has ever seen have been brought low, and failing to make it out of Code S Ro32 makes their SSL performance extra bitter. For now, the two players will have to act as speed bumps for the others. They might still affect the outcome of the final standings, but for themselves, all hope is indeed lost.

The Outcome

Very few things are certain in life, and the same holds true for StarCraft. Besides performing to the best of their abilities, all players will have to keep a keen eye on the other matches. Their fate lies not only in their own hands, but in the hands of their opponents, with whom they’ve gone through a nine week crucible. Who’s going to take the top spot? Who’s going to have to miss out on the Post Season? The different permutations are so numerous that it would take an extra week just go through all of them. Thus, all ten players enter the fray one last time, with the outcome as uncertain as ever. Once the dust settles, we’ll have our five winners and five losers. Before that, everything else is pure speculation.


Weekly Schedule:

Mon - SSL Premier - Maru vs ByuL / sOs vs Patience / INnoVation vs Stats / Solar vs aLive / Zest vs Dark
Wed - GSL Ro.16 Group Selection




Group Nomination Buy and Sell!

by lichter
[image loading] - lichter

The group selection for the GSL round of 16 has always been a hotly anticipated occasion. It gives the fans a look into a sort of "internal" rank of the pros, and we get to hear a few barbed insults along the way. Sure, there's also a healthy dose of cringeworthy moments, but overall, it's a spectacle all on its own.

This season, we have a fairly balanced top 16, with 5 protoss, 6 terran, and 5 zerg. However, not everyone in the field is equal, and, despite having no knowledge of how the players value each other (because really, these things can change each season), we're still going to try and give the players some advice with our Group Selection Buy and Sell.

Buy Early And Potentially Look Like a Genius: (P)Stats

Stats escaped ahead with KeeN and Scarlett, but it was arguably one of the weaker groups. Of course, you can only beat who's in front of you, but Stats' form has also been a bit shaky. Stats has a sub-50% winrate in PvP since the start of April, and his PvT and PvZ have also dipped during that time. If you fancy a high risk, high reward pick, Stats might be your man.

Buy at Your Own Risk: (Z)Rogue and (P)Trap

On the one hand, these two players seem to be the weakest on paper. On the other hand, they have fostered a reputation as perennial dark horses for a reason. They can plan builds better than most, and the dash of madness that they sometimes possess adds a few bars of pressure to the heat of the booth. If you're confident in your ability to scout and deflect weird stuff, then buy at your own risk.

Buy If You're Protoss: (P)Dear

It's hard to say whether Dear is well and truly a B-lister, but with losses to C-listers like Hush, Billowy, and frickin' Seed over the past month and a half, it's hard to argue otherwise. He's sub 50% in PvP in 2017, and his dip doesn't seem to be abating any time soon. Players that fancy their disruptor control should keep an eye if he's still on the board.

Sell, for the love of god, SELL: (Z)ByuL

ByuL is on the up and up, and he really doesn't have a single weak matchup right now. By form alone he has to be considered one of the true contenders this season, and after spending 2016 as an invalid after his heartbreaking 2015, this could finally be his chance to chase away his demons.

Sell If You Wanna Go Home Early: (T)GuMiho

While GuMiho isn't exactly known as a turtle player, he is one of the few terran that you can't count on if you wanna see a mech game or two. His addition of Hyperflight Rotors certainly makes his banshees fly faster, but the games don't necessarily end any sooner. If you have a date after the games or something, definitely pick someone else.

Sell If You're Protoss: (Z)Dark

Over the past 20 games, Dark is 15-5 against the likes of sOs, Super, Classic, and Stats. That's a hitlist with some of the best protoss players out there, and Dark continues to be considered one of the best zergs in the world. Avoid if you're from Aiur.

Predicted Last Person to be Chosen: (T)aLive

Probably coz they forgot.





Korea Weekly: hexhaven
Focus: lichter
Graphics: shiroiusagi
Photos: ESL, Shayla
Facebook Twitter Reddit
TL+ Member
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
May 14 2017 12:33 GMT
#2
Dark, aLive and Patience all can't make post-season. Maru is the only one at 4-4 whose map score is good enough to still make it, and he needs to win 2-0.

Also aLive and Stats aren't for sale, they're buyers
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13994 Posts
May 14 2017 12:42 GMT
#3
I wonder if stats even has it in him to reach ro8 right now..
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
May 14 2017 13:20 GMT
#4
On May 14 2017 21:42 Cricketer12 wrote:
I wonder if stats even has it in him to reach ro8 right now..

Considering the fate of the last 2 defending champions he should already be satisfied to reach ro16.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
May 14 2017 13:47 GMT
#5
On May 14 2017 21:33 Elentos wrote:
Dark, aLive and Patience all can't make post-season. Maru is the only one at 4-4 whose map score is good enough to still make it, and he needs to win 2-0.

Also aLive and Stats aren't for sale, they're buyers

Yeah Maru is the only one, but as we all know he will actually do it.
Poor Byul (unless Innovation wins 2-0 against Stats as well, which isn't that unlikely)

Tomorrow will be an exciting day
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
May 14 2017 18:13 GMT
#6
Maru needs to win 2-0 vs ByuL to have same set score and map score and have any chance to go to the playoffs, I f i was ByuL I would cheese at least once to secure the spot.

Whats the thing about aLive pick at GSL btw?
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
May 14 2017 18:29 GMT
#7
On May 15 2017 03:13 Argonauta wrote:
Maru needs to win 2-0 vs ByuL to have same set score and map score and have any chance to go to the playoffs, I f i was ByuL I would cheese at least once to secure the spot.

Whats the thing about aLive pick at GSL btw?

It's a running gag that aLive is the "Invisible Terran" because people tend to forget he exists despite being one of the top Terrans in LotV. The joke is he'll get picked last because everyone forgets he's there.
Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1919 Posts
May 14 2017 18:30 GMT
#8
On May 15 2017 03:13 Argonauta wrote:

Whats the thing about aLive pick at GSL btw?


Who?
┗|∵|┓Second Place in LB 28, Third Place in LB 29 and Destined to Be a Kong
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-14 18:42:56
May 14 2017 18:41 GMT
#9
On May 15 2017 03:13 Argonauta wrote:
Maru needs to win 2-0 vs ByuL to have same set score and map score and have any chance to go to the playoffs, I f i was ByuL I would cheese at least once to secure the spot.

So logically if you were Maru you'd play it safe to make sure you don't lose your only shot at play-offs to cheese.
On May 15 2017 03:29 Solar424 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2017 03:13 Argonauta wrote:
Maru needs to win 2-0 vs ByuL to have same set score and map score and have any chance to go to the playoffs, I f i was ByuL I would cheese at least once to secure the spot.

Whats the thing about aLive pick at GSL btw?

It's a running gag that aLive is the "Invisible Terran" because people tend to forget he exists despite being one of the top Terrans in LotV. The joke is he'll get picked last because everyone forgets he's there.

But this time the joke's actually on everyone else because aLive is a group seed and doesn't need to get picked. But how can someone who doesn't exist pick an opponent?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
May 14 2017 18:59 GMT
#10
On May 15 2017 03:41 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2017 03:13 Argonauta wrote:
Maru needs to win 2-0 vs ByuL to have same set score and map score and have any chance to go to the playoffs, I f i was ByuL I would cheese at least once to secure the spot.

So logically if you were Maru you'd play it safe to make sure you don't lose your only shot at play-offs to cheese.
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2017 03:29 Solar424 wrote:
On May 15 2017 03:13 Argonauta wrote:
Maru needs to win 2-0 vs ByuL to have same set score and map score and have any chance to go to the playoffs, I f i was ByuL I would cheese at least once to secure the spot.

Whats the thing about aLive pick at GSL btw?

It's a running gag that aLive is the "Invisible Terran" because people tend to forget he exists despite being one of the top Terrans in LotV. The joke is he'll get picked last because everyone forgets he's there.

But this time the joke's actually on everyone else because aLive is a group seed and doesn't need to get picked. But how can someone who doesn't exist pick an opponent?

aLive will hold out the Hot6 and his chosen player will stare vacantly into space while the other players mutter and Mr. Chae wonders who the fourth seed was supposed to be.
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
May 14 2017 19:00 GMT
#11
On May 15 2017 03:59 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2017 03:41 Elentos wrote:
On May 15 2017 03:13 Argonauta wrote:
Maru needs to win 2-0 vs ByuL to have same set score and map score and have any chance to go to the playoffs, I f i was ByuL I would cheese at least once to secure the spot.

So logically if you were Maru you'd play it safe to make sure you don't lose your only shot at play-offs to cheese.
On May 15 2017 03:29 Solar424 wrote:
On May 15 2017 03:13 Argonauta wrote:
Maru needs to win 2-0 vs ByuL to have same set score and map score and have any chance to go to the playoffs, I f i was ByuL I would cheese at least once to secure the spot.

Whats the thing about aLive pick at GSL btw?

It's a running gag that aLive is the "Invisible Terran" because people tend to forget he exists despite being one of the top Terrans in LotV. The joke is he'll get picked last because everyone forgets he's there.

But this time the joke's actually on everyone else because aLive is a group seed and doesn't need to get picked. But how can someone who doesn't exist pick an opponent?

aLive will hold out the Hot6 and his chosen player will stare vacantly into space while the other players mutter and Mr. Chae wonders who the fourth seed was supposed to be.

More like they'll evacuate the studio because they're haunted by mysterious floating Hot6ix cans.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
May 14 2017 19:06 GMT
#12
So assuming head to head is used in the event of ties:

2/3 of (Z)ByuL, (T)Maru or (P)Stats can secure the last two spots.

- (Z)ByuL is in if he wins a single map against Maru. This is also the simplest scenario of deciding the playoffs.

- (T)Maru is in if he 2-0s ByuL.

- (P)Stats is safe as long as ByuL wins a map. If Maru 2-0s then Stats has to at least win 1 game against Bogus.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
May 14 2017 19:21 GMT
#13
There doesn't really seem to be a "most feared" player right now for GSL group selections. Stats has been shaky since his championship, Dark has kept a pretty low profile, TY is improving from his slump but hasn't shown enough, aLive has vanished since the Super Tournament, Inno and ByuL are scary but not that scary.

Compare the lack of an obvious favorite to last season, where everyone was quaking in their boots for fear that INnoVation might set his sights on them, and the mere mention of his name was threat enough to safeguard Leenock to an easy group (didn't help him in the end though).
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
May 14 2017 19:57 GMT
#14
On May 15 2017 04:21 pvsnp wrote:
aLive has vanished since the Super Tournament


On May 15 2017 04:21 pvsnp wrote:
vanished since the Super Tournament


On May 15 2017 04:21 pvsnp wrote:
since the Super Tournament


I dunno Kev
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33586 Posts
May 15 2017 03:01 GMT
#15
Ah, the group ceremonies, the TRUE apex competition of the GSL
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Kazi25
Profile Joined July 2016
Philippines236 Posts
May 15 2017 03:11 GMT
#16
Let's hope there will be no Ohana this time.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
May 15 2017 04:57 GMT
#17
On May 15 2017 12:11 Kazi25 wrote:
Let's hope there will be no Ohana this time.


it means family
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
WardiTV Mondays #77
CranKy Ducklings19
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SpeCial 216
ViBE82
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 4789
Artosis 643
Noble 17
Dota 2
monkeys_forever498
capcasts168
NeuroSwarm1
League of Legends
JimRising 463
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 1792
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox336
C9.Mang0316
AZ_Axe79
Mew2King71
Other Games
summit1g18561
Day[9].tv506
ROOTCatZ66
Maynarde10
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick802
BasetradeTV135
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• RyuSc2 46
• davetesta17
• mYiSmile17
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP2
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• IndyKCrew
• Kozan
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 22
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21669
League of Legends
• Doublelift4044
Other Games
• imaqtpie1180
• Scarra752
• Day9tv506
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
9h 56m
CranKy Ducklings
23h 56m
WardiTV Team League
1d 10h
Replay Cast
1d 23h
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
WardiTV Team League
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
BSL
2 days
n0maD vs perroflaco
TerrOr vs ZZZero
MadiNho vs WolFix
DragOn vs LancerX
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
WardiTV Team League
3 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
3 days
BSL
3 days
Sterling vs Azhi_Dahaki
Napoleon vs Mazur
Jimin vs Nesh
spx vs Strudel
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
GSL
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Elite League 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W2
IPSL Spring 2026
Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
RSL Revival: Season 5
WardiTV TLMC #16
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.