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Hello everyone, we wanted to give a quick update on the season 2 map selection process. We have been reading the feedback from the Battle.net forums, Reddit, and Team Liquid and have decided to make a change to our plans for next season’s map pool. We agree that Paladino and Defender’s Landing share some similarities, and since map diversity is an important goal for us we have decided to cut Paladino from next season’s map pool. In replacing it, we didn’t want to put back any of the maps that we had planned on cutting, so instead we decided to pick a 5th map from the Team Liquid map making contest. We agree with the community that the map formerly known as Windwaker (which has been renamed Odyssey by the map maker) would make a solid addition.
With that substitution, next season’s map pool would look like this:
- Ascension to Aiur
- Sequencer
- Blood Boil
- Defender’s Landing
- Odyssey (previously known as Windwaker)
- Abyssal Reef
- Proxima Station
As always, your feedback is appreciated so let us know what you think.
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Damn, I really loved the name Windwaker. Sucks they had to change it.
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now replace blood boil or the new palamemo with hwangsan, kthx
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On March 23 2017 02:18 lestye wrote:
Damn, I really loved the name Windwaker. Sucks they had to change it.
Why did they have to change the map name?
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South Korea2105 Posts
I hate the fact that so many maps just get rotated out after a single season
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On March 23 2017 03:16 geokilla wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2017 02:18 lestye wrote:
Damn, I really loved the name Windwaker. Sucks they had to change it. Why did they have to change the map name?
I think it has something to do with Zelda game title on Nintendo Switch.
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China6329 Posts
On March 23 2017 03:23 AshC wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2017 03:16 geokilla wrote:On March 23 2017 02:18 lestye wrote:
Damn, I really loved the name Windwaker. Sucks they had to change it. Why did they have to change the map name? I think it has something to do with Zelda game title on Nintendo Switch.
Windwaker is a Zelda game (on GCN later remastered on Wii U), but not the Switch one, that would be Breath of the Wild.
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I am not really happy with bloodboil.. that map was uh not my personal favorite* but I would love to see maps such as deadwing or paradise lost come in. Deadwing is such a spectacular 4 player map and some of the best games I have ever seen were on it and Paradise lost was the most relaxing map to both play and look at in TLMC8
(But for Dead wing some of those awesome games would be)
Game 7 Naver Starleague Life vs Dream
Game 2 Maru vs INnoVation (Jinair vs SKT T1) SPL 2015
Game 2 Maru vs Myungsik (Jinair vs Sbenu) SPL 2015
All of these are Terran games but I absolutely loved the map dead wing and I think the way it is structured it would work as a very good macro map in Legacy of the void
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United States1875 Posts
Spo brought back Overgrowth for SSL. It was chosen first in 2/5 series, 2nd in another and 3rd another time (4/5 total series). At the same time, Abyssal Reef was only chosen twice despite being far easier to practice on. Guess Blizzard knows something Spo doesn't by keeping the older maps out of the map pool, because to me it looks like the players really like the older more standard maps.
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Windwaker name was changed because the mapper changed it, not because blizzard changed it. Did you guys even read the whole paragraph?
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Still hoping to have Blood Boil replaced by Hwangsan. I also like the name change of Windwaker.
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On March 23 2017 04:03 IronManSC wrote:
Windwaker name was changed because the mapper changed it, not because blizzard changed it. Did you guys even read the whole paragraph?
 ... For some reason, I didn't see that part the first time I read the post. I'm old!
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On March 23 2017 04:02 mizenhauer wrote:
Spo brought back Overgrowth for SSL. It was chosen first in 2/5 series, 2nd in another and 3rd another time (4/5 total series). At the same time, Abyssal Reef was only chosen twice despite being far easier to practice on. Guess Blizzard knows something Spo doesn't by keeping the older maps out of the map pool, because to me it looks like the players really like the older more standard maps.
Yeah they realize Overgrowth has been on ladder for like 18 years total at this point.
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On March 23 2017 03:43 Ryu3600 wrote:
I am not really happy with bloodboil.. that map was uh not my personal favorite* but I would love to see maps such as deadwing or paradise lost come in. Deadwing is such a spectacular 4 player map and some of the best games I have ever seen were on it and Paradise lost was the most relaxing map to both play and look at in TLMC8
(But for Dead wing some of those awesome games would be)
Game 7 Naver Starleague Life vs Dream
Game 2 Maru vs INnoVation (Jinair vs SKT T1) SPL 2015
Game 2 Maru vs Myungsik (Jinair vs Sbenu) SPL 2015
All of these are Terran games but I absolutely loved the map dead wing and I think the way it is structured it would work as a very good macro map in Legacy of the void
Every map that's ever seen any significant play has had plenty of great games on it, even if it was overall crap or mediocre.
I agree that Blood Boil is not the greatest addition ever. Still, at least it has some interesting parts and isn't just bad AND boring.
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On March 23 2017 02:24 Ej_ wrote:
now replace blood boil or the new palamemo with hwangsan, kthx
Agree with this opinion.
Hwangsan is to good of a map to not include it in the mappool.
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Hopefuly Blizzard won't forget that zerg needs 4 bases to play macro in LotV and also won't put more terran favored maps than we can veto.
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Hey blizzard! How about diversity (*winks*)? 4-player maps are absent in your pool. While usually its 2 of them. You deny a lot of styles by that! How about unexpected nexuses/cc first? Hah? We all definitely want to see these strats as players AND spectators. Very bad of you! You should do something about that (*secretly hopes they will get rid of blood boil/proxima/defenders landing in favour of.. ANYTHING*).
p.s. what the f*** is that renaming? Windwaker sounded AWESOME! gawd....
edit: if you need a clue on what map to get rid of (in case you decide 4 player map is needed for... DIVERSITY). Remove the f**** proxima station. Everyone f***** hates it. Noone ever plays it.
On March 23 2017 04:21 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2017 04:02 mizenhauer wrote:
Spo brought back Overgrowth for SSL. It was chosen first in 2/5 series, 2nd in another and 3rd another time (4/5 total series). At the same time, Abyssal Reef was only chosen twice despite being far easier to practice on. Guess Blizzard knows something Spo doesn't by keeping the older maps out of the map pool, because to me it looks like the players really like the older more standard maps. Yeah they realize Overgrowth has been on ladder for like 18 years total at this point.
Do they realize blue storm/fighting spirit w/e have been in every possible tournament mappool for 118 years ?
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Well obviously Windwa*ker had to get a name change. People would have found that offensive.
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Paradise loooooooost rip :'(
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Stupid question but did they already release the Widow Mine and Hydralisk patch? lol
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On March 23 2017 04:45 jpg06051992 wrote:
Stupid question but did they already release the Widow Mine and Hydralisk patch? lol
2 weeks ago.
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Hwangsan would have been a much better choice than Windwaker for this map pool imo. Now we have a bunch of large-ish maps and one tiny one with no in between. For all the talk about diversity Blizzard has been neglecting mid-sized maps in LotV.
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Now that's a good looking map pool imo, i'll have to see how it actually plays out though.
On March 23 2017 02:24 Ej_ wrote:
now replace blood boil or the new palamemo with hwangsan, kthx
You laughed at me when i said paladino had no chance to stay in the s2 map pool on Avex's stream the other day, it didn't even take a week :>
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On March 23 2017 04:51 insitelol wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2017 04:45 jpg06051992 wrote:
Stupid question but did they already release the Widow Mine and Hydralisk patch? lol 2 weeks ago.
thanks man I think I looked at the last actual patch and just thought it was more community news T__T
Anyways I'm happy with the maps except Blood Boil, that looks like every Protoss will just Sentry/Immortal all in you because it will be OP until Lurkers come out and they will be REALLY really OP, just looks like a ramp, mech friendly, FF friendly, Lurker friendly nightmare.
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Russian Federation421 Posts
OMG!!! Five new maps on the ladder. How will I handle it? It's totally above my mental capacities, I won't probably learn them until the end of the season. Curse you, Blizzard, and your "progressive" developers 
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On March 23 2017 04:03 IronManSC wrote:
Windwaker name was changed because the mapper changed it, not because blizzard changed it. Did you guys even read the whole paragraph?
Oh guilty :-<
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Ascension to Aiur ANNND Sequencer? GOODY GOODY!
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Someone before me did bring up a good point. There is no 4-players map in this map pool. There should be one at least.
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On March 23 2017 04:28 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2017 02:24 Ej_ wrote:
now replace blood boil or the new palamemo with hwangsan, kthx Agree with this opinion. Hwangsan is to good of a map to not include it in the mappool.
That would be ideal.
Still however I am impressed and happy with the fact that Blizzard decided to change initial map pool.
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On March 23 2017 06:47 egrimm wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2017 04:28 Charoisaur wrote:On March 23 2017 02:24 Ej_ wrote:
now replace blood boil or the new palamemo with hwangsan, kthx Agree with this opinion. Hwangsan is to good of a map to not include it in the mappool. That would be ideal. Still however I am impressed and happy with the fact that Blizzard decided to change initial map pool.
It's not the first time they do that though
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Happy with the maps we shall see if defender is gonna turn out how I want it to. I am ready to respond if there are any issues with the map and look forward to see and play in it myself.
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Blizzard coming back with an awesome feedback! Love it!
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On March 23 2017 06:34 AshC wrote:
Someone before me did bring up a good point. There is no 4-players map in this map pool. There should be one at least.
If you're looking for a 4-player map, how about Mendella? It's one of the other maps submitted by Jacky_:
http://i.imgur.com/SRk35ZI.jpg
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I just want to see the map Deadwing or Paradise lost implemented in.. Sequencer is not bad not great I guess it is okay. Im also not to thrilled about bloodboil but personally I would love to see more 3 player maps ;D Catallena and Merry Go Round were awesome maps.
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On March 23 2017 08:04 TiberiusA wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2017 06:34 AshC wrote:
Someone before me did bring up a good point. There is no 4-players map in this map pool. There should be one at least. If you're looking for a 4-player map, how about Mendella? It's one of the other maps submitted by Jacky_: http://i.imgur.com/SRk35ZI.jpg
Wow, I like that map. It reminds me of Frost :D... They should have this map on the map pool!
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On March 23 2017 04:56 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Hwangsan would have been a much better choice than Windwaker for this map pool imo. Now we have a bunch of large-ish maps and one tiny one with no in between. For all the talk about diversity Blizzard has been neglecting mid-sized maps in LotV.
Yep.
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Why would you want a 4p map? What positive thing does it bring to the table? They're always bloated and problematic.
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On March 23 2017 04:32 xTJx wrote:
Hopefuly Blizzard won't forget that zerg needs 4 bases to play macro in LotV and also won't put more terran favored maps than we can veto.
using a very scientific, methodical process i have objectively determined that there are 3 types of maps in Starcraft.
1) Protoss Favoured Maps
b) Zerg Favoured Maps
iii) Balanced Maps
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Surely I'm not the only one who misses Metropolis (not METALopolis) and think it deserves another shot
>.>
<.<
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they should remake some of the classics others have mentioned in this thread. like fighting spirit, blue storm and circuit breakers.
if they made the mains on some of these maps have flight blockers (to compensate for bigger distance from base to base in bw map design) and some small other tweaks the maps would be great. if they removed the double bridge from circuit breakers and added one area of flight blockers (natural behind minerals or between main and third) i think it would be a perfect map in Sc2 as well.
On March 23 2017 11:13 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Surely I'm not the only one who misses Metropolis (not METALopolis) and think it deserves another shot
>.>
<.<
totally
this one has islands right? the third might ned to be changed, no idea how you would hold that in pvz right now (its on lowground. if that area was elevated i think the map would be better for this iteration)
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On March 23 2017 11:13 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Surely I'm not the only one who misses Metropolis (not METALopolis) and think it deserves another shot
>.>
<.<
I would love to see what would happen if Metalopolis was added back in. Do it Blizzard!
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On March 23 2017 04:41 Cosmos wrote:
Paradise loooooooost rip :'(
was really looking forward to play that map on ladder, maybe season 3? (guess not...)
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On March 23 2017 16:52 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2017 11:13 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Surely I'm not the only one who misses Metropolis (not METALopolis) and think it deserves another shot
>.>
<.< I would love to see what would happen if Metalopolis was added back in. Do it Blizzard!
And include close by ground spawns while you're at it:
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I miss Dasan Station most fun game played & watched on this map.. hope i see this genius map again :p
I think most people would agree that the mappool could be a little bigger right? (sure for including Dasan you guys would disagree xd) but this has'nt to extend to the mappool of tournament..
I think 3 more maps with 1/2 more veto could'nt hurt..
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On March 23 2017 20:23 Kenny_mk wrote:I miss Dasan Station most fun game played & watched on this map.. hope i see this genius map again :p I think most people would agree that the mappool could be a little bigger right? (sure for including Dasan you guys would disagree xd) but this has'nt to extend to the mappool of tournament.. I think 3 more maps with 1/2 more veto could'nt hurt..
Blizzard wants to force pro players to play on gimmicky maps so the casual fan is more entertained.
With more maps and more vetos the terrible maps would never be played in tournaments.
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Btw, it's not the first time blizzard is slacking on this. Throwing in some completely broken stuff like 2 identical rush maps (even in tileset) knowing everyone will bitch about that only to let themselves state something like: "thank you guys for pointing out some obvious shit for us, we definitely hear you feedback" a week later. And everyone is like: "wow blizzard listens to us". Instead of putting some effort in the initial map selection, so we can focus our discussion on actual improving of the mappool.
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Just...remove Sequencer...from existence...please.
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On March 23 2017 02:24 Ej_ wrote:
now replace blood boil or the new palamemo with hwangsan, kthx
yes please
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Really don't want minerals or gas geysers to be messed with.
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Remove Proxima Station
Add Honorgrounds
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On March 25 2017 02:15 Warcloud wrote:
Remove Proxima Station
Add Honorgrounds
Agree completely.
Most players prefer to play macro maps but Blizzard is forcing us to play on crap maps in the name of e-sport.
This game would be much better if Blizzard prioritized fun of playing over fun of watching.
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On March 25 2017 03:34 MockHamill wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2017 02:15 Warcloud wrote:
Remove Proxima Station
Add Honorgrounds Agree completely. Most players prefer to play macro maps but Blizzard is forcing us to play on crap maps in the name of e-sport. This game would be much better if Blizzard prioritized fun of playing over fun of watching.
proxima feels safer than HG no?
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