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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
December 29 2016 17:56 GMT
#21
providing an other top tier interview, thanks
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
December 29 2016 19:23 GMT
#22
So IEM is keeping SC2 because they don't want to burn any bridges, not out of passion or love for the game is what I got from this interview.
feardragon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States973 Posts
December 29 2016 19:37 GMT
#23
Thanks for the interview. Can't wait for part 2.
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Freezard
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Sweden1028 Posts
December 29 2016 22:03 GMT
#24
Great interview thanks... Carmac is a great guy, followed him for a long time. Hopefully there will be Quake/UT at IEM once again, with the new games on the horizon.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 29 2016 22:36 GMT
#25
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LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
December 30 2016 00:05 GMT
#26
Why does this sound like the things people say to reassure people right before they stab you in the kidney
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
December 30 2016 00:22 GMT
#27
On December 30 2016 07:36 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2016 04:23 Solar424 wrote:
So IEM is keeping SC2 because they don't want to burn any bridges, not out of passion or love for the game is what I got from this interview.


That is sure a cup half empty look at that interview lol.

It's more like taking a half empty cup and pouring it away.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Hushfieldx
Profile Joined December 2016
Belgium64 Posts
December 30 2016 00:44 GMT
#28
The interview was an interesting read, thanks!
On December 30 2016 02:33 ProBell wrote:
We are the Tennis of esports.
You, sir, are on to something.
Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
December 30 2016 05:18 GMT
#29
Thank you Carmac. We really mean it.
Celebrating Starcraft since... a long time ago.
wongfeihung
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States763 Posts
December 30 2016 06:35 GMT
#30
I stopped following SC2 a while ago, but I can still read this interview in Carmac's voice.
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-30 08:21:59
December 30 2016 08:20 GMT
#31
On December 30 2016 04:23 Solar424 wrote:
So IEM is keeping SC2 because they don't want to burn any bridges, not out of passion or love for the game is what I got from this interview.

Did we read different interviews?

This passage was very clear to me that there is a lot of passion for the game involved:
StarCraft provides that lineage back to 2010 in Intel Extreme Masters. Even though the viewership is not the same as say, Counter-Strike, I feel like the value that it gives—not in terms of direct key performance indicators—but the value for…

Prestige?

Prestige, history, and legacy is tremendous in StarCraft II. And that is not something that should be discarded lightly.


I read the part you are (probably) rerferring to more as "We keep StarCraft II around because of it's rich history, and who knows, the series might make a huge comeback just like Counter-Strike did."

Anyway. I think it's safe to say that Carmac is just so great for eSports. He will never read this, but I cannot thank the guy enough for what he did for StarCraft II and eSports as a whole. If I ever get the chance, I need to buy this guy a beer.
hiroshOne
Profile Joined October 2015
Poland425 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-30 11:32:43
December 30 2016 09:33 GMT
#32
On December 30 2016 17:20 KeksX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2016 04:23 Solar424 wrote:
So IEM is keeping SC2 because they don't want to burn any bridges, not out of passion or love for the game is what I got from this interview.

Did we read different interviews?

This passage was very clear to me that there is a lot of passion for the game involved:
Show nested quote +
StarCraft provides that lineage back to 2010 in Intel Extreme Masters. Even though the viewership is not the same as say, Counter-Strike, I feel like the value that it gives—not in terms of direct key performance indicators—but the value for…

Prestige?

Prestige, history, and legacy is tremendous in StarCraft II. And that is not something that should be discarded lightly.


I read the part you are (probably) rerferring to more as "We keep StarCraft II around because of it's rich history, and who knows, the series might make a huge comeback just like Counter-Strike did."

Anyway. I think it's safe to say that Carmac is just so great for eSports. He will never read this, but I cannot thank the guy enough for what he did for StarCraft II and eSports as a whole. If I ever get the chance, I need to buy this guy a beer.


Carmac doesn't drink alcohol. I know him since highschool and he never did. So you better buy him good italian food instead ;-)

Most of all, Carmac is the most honest, loyal and straight guy i know. His big merit is- when he says that he will do something, he always does it. That's pretty much rare thing these times. And truly, we all should be grateful for this guy existence when it comes to esports development. I bet that even when he sleeps, he thinks about how to make esports greater than it is. Sometimes i feel that we all don't give the credit that ppl who are behind the scenes deserve. All fans of esports should have special place in heart for Carmac indeed :-)
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DeadByDawn
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom476 Posts
December 30 2016 13:37 GMT
#33
Good interview, nice to hear IEM still supports SC2.
Freezard
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Sweden1028 Posts
December 30 2016 13:58 GMT
#34
On December 30 2016 02:33 ProBell wrote:
We are the Tennis of esports.

While tennis is far from its glory days when it comes to popularity, the audience keeps increasing and the prize money is at a record high. Saying tennis is on a decline as much as SC2 is, is just wrong. Once the current stars retire then maybe things will change though, since there's no real upcoming mega star in sight.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4228 Posts
December 30 2016 17:47 GMT
#35
On December 30 2016 22:58 Freezard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2016 02:33 ProBell wrote:
We are the Tennis of esports.

While tennis is far from its glory days when it comes to popularity, the audience keeps increasing and the prize money is at a record high. Saying tennis is on a decline as much as SC2 is, is just wrong. Once the current stars retire then maybe things will change though, since there's no real upcoming mega star in sight.

I think the idea is that tennis looks super dead when you compare ti to the super behemoths that is football (both soccer & American), but its still a significant niche with a lot of prestige. No matter what, I dont think anyone thinks Tennis is a "dead" game, it's just a smaller less popular one, but it still has tons of respect and legitimacy.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
December 30 2016 17:48 GMT
#36
Part 2 is here

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/overwatch/517744-carmac-interview-part-2-overwatch-league-iems-evolution-and-esports-investment-bubble
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Freezard
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Sweden1028 Posts
December 30 2016 19:05 GMT
#37
On December 31 2016 02:47 lestye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2016 22:58 Freezard wrote:
On December 30 2016 02:33 ProBell wrote:
We are the Tennis of esports.

While tennis is far from its glory days when it comes to popularity, the audience keeps increasing and the prize money is at a record high. Saying tennis is on a decline as much as SC2 is, is just wrong. Once the current stars retire then maybe things will change though, since there's no real upcoming mega star in sight.

I think the idea is that tennis looks super dead when you compare ti to the super behemoths that is football (both soccer & American), but its still a significant niche with a lot of prestige. No matter what, I dont think anyone thinks Tennis is a "dead" game, it's just a smaller less popular one, but it still has tons of respect and legitimacy.

Soccer is literally the most popular sport in the world and has been forever, nothing compares to it. But if you disregard soccer, then Wimbledon is in the top 5 most viewed sports event in the world, just slightly less popular than the Super Bowl, so no it's not a small or less popular sport.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4228 Posts
December 30 2016 20:22 GMT
#38
On December 31 2016 04:05 Freezard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2016 02:47 lestye wrote:
On December 30 2016 22:58 Freezard wrote:
On December 30 2016 02:33 ProBell wrote:
We are the Tennis of esports.

While tennis is far from its glory days when it comes to popularity, the audience keeps increasing and the prize money is at a record high. Saying tennis is on a decline as much as SC2 is, is just wrong. Once the current stars retire then maybe things will change though, since there's no real upcoming mega star in sight.

I think the idea is that tennis looks super dead when you compare ti to the super behemoths that is football (both soccer & American), but its still a significant niche with a lot of prestige. No matter what, I dont think anyone thinks Tennis is a "dead" game, it's just a smaller less popular one, but it still has tons of respect and legitimacy.

Soccer is literally the most popular sport in the world and has been forever, nothing compares to it. But if you disregard soccer, then Wimbledon is in the top 5 most viewed sports event in the world, just slightly less popular than the Super Bowl, so no it's not a small or less popular sport.

Do you have any citations ? From what I could gather, Formula 1, Cricket, are all way more popular than Tennis. Also, you have to consider, are we talking about specific championships, or the sport overall? Because its very plausible Tennis does really really amazing 2 weekends out of the year, but all other majors are significantly behind other sports.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
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Carmac
Profile Joined August 2007
Poland375 Posts
January 02 2017 21:03 GMT
#39
On December 30 2016 17:20 KeksX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2016 04:23 Solar424 wrote:
So IEM is keeping SC2 because they don't want to burn any bridges, not out of passion or love for the game is what I got from this interview.

Did we read different interviews?

This passage was very clear to me that there is a lot of passion for the game involved:
Show nested quote +
StarCraft provides that lineage back to 2010 in Intel Extreme Masters. Even though the viewership is not the same as say, Counter-Strike, I feel like the value that it gives—not in terms of direct key performance indicators—but the value for…

Prestige?

Prestige, history, and legacy is tremendous in StarCraft II. And that is not something that should be discarded lightly.


I read the part you are (probably) rerferring to more as "We keep StarCraft II around because of it's rich history, and who knows, the series might make a huge comeback just like Counter-Strike did."

Anyway. I think it's safe to say that Carmac is just so great for eSports. He will never read this, but I cannot thank the guy enough for what he did for StarCraft II and eSports as a whole. If I ever get the chance, I need to buy this guy a beer.

Thanks, I don't drink.
www.intelextrememasters.com
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