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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
November 14 2016 12:30 GMT
#701
uh oh --;
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Yiome
Profile Joined February 2014
China1687 Posts
November 14 2016 12:30 GMT
#702
Just tuned in. Byun made tanks and lost...?
Theoretically new siege tank should be much better against Ultra right?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
November 14 2016 12:32 GMT
#703
This just in: former Kong puts up fight against world champion
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Yiome
Profile Joined February 2014
China1687 Posts
November 14 2016 12:32 GMT
#704
wow cyclone killed building so fast... *facepalm*
Nice surround though
dNa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany591 Posts
November 14 2016 12:32 GMT
#705
On November 14 2016 21:30 Yiome wrote:
Just tuned in. Byun made tanks and lost...?
Theoretically new siege tank should be much better against Ultra right?

no. unless you make a metric shitton they're worse because they get 2 shots off and then are dead when you can't pick them up. And if you make enough to kill ultras with they just end up blinding clouded. So. Tanks are worse than last patch in tvz.
"a pitchfork is for hay. a trident is for killing bitches." -djwheat
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
November 14 2016 12:33 GMT
#706
On November 14 2016 21:29 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2016 21:27 207aicila wrote:
On November 14 2016 21:25 Charoisaur wrote:
On November 14 2016 21:25 207aicila wrote:
On November 14 2016 21:20 JabuSeika wrote:
is fun TvZ back? is this real?


It's only fun until ultras are out.

they got nerfed


So? I'm just saying it as I see it.

Obviously well played by ByuL though.

before the patch I agree that the game got boring once ultras came out because they kind of stagnated the game with terran having to turtle with ghosts and liberators.
Now terran can continue to trade once ultras are out so imo it remains fun.


I'll concede that g3 wasn't the best example since ByuN stayed on bio for too long and when he finally got some thors and libs he effectively suicided them by targetting mutas, but it's still not amazing to watch in my opinion.
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
November 14 2016 12:33 GMT
#707
Looks like game 5 inc.

Do I dare to dream of ByuL winning this :o
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
November 14 2016 12:34 GMT
#708
This build seems kinda bad
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15945 Posts
November 14 2016 12:34 GMT
#709
glad this didn't work
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
JabuSeika
Profile Joined February 2014
United States607 Posts
November 14 2016 12:34 GMT
#710
This cheese is no good.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
November 14 2016 12:35 GMT
#711
Complete the 3-0 comeback!
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15945 Posts
November 14 2016 12:35 GMT
#712
On November 14 2016 21:33 207aicila wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2016 21:29 Charoisaur wrote:
On November 14 2016 21:27 207aicila wrote:
On November 14 2016 21:25 Charoisaur wrote:
On November 14 2016 21:25 207aicila wrote:
On November 14 2016 21:20 JabuSeika wrote:
is fun TvZ back? is this real?


It's only fun until ultras are out.

they got nerfed


So? I'm just saying it as I see it.

Obviously well played by ByuL though.

before the patch I agree that the game got boring once ultras came out because they kind of stagnated the game with terran having to turtle with ghosts and liberators.
Now terran can continue to trade once ultras are out so imo it remains fun.


I'll concede that g3 wasn't the best example since ByuN stayed on bio for too long and when he finally got some thors and libs he effectively suicided them by targetting mutas, but it's still not amazing to watch in my opinion.

at least it probably won't be worth anymore to rush them on 3 bases
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
dNa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany591 Posts
November 14 2016 12:35 GMT
#713
well playing straight up game on Apelolthis is silly honestly so worth a shot ;p
"a pitchfork is for hay. a trident is for killing bitches." -djwheat
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12840 Posts
November 14 2016 12:37 GMT
#714
Cyclones seem so bad, he was unscouted afaik (didn't see the beginning but they showed ByuN having no vision, don't know if he scouted no 2nd base/raw at home) and still got trashed by a simple surround. Maybe it's better if you mix in hellions?
Every time I see the new cyclones in TvZ it looks good until they all get killed easily. Better to keep it as a niche unit like it was before :o.
So far seems like a bad patch for fun games but I did not see TvZ late yet.

WriterMaru
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-14 12:39:38
November 14 2016 12:37 GMT
#715
On November 14 2016 21:35 dNa wrote:
well playing straight up game on Apelolthis is silly honestly so worth a shot ;p

In all the games before he opened with at least 2-rax reaper. So apparently King Sejong is the only map worth playing straight-up.

Or we do a 2-base hellbat timing, that works too.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
November 14 2016 12:40 GMT
#716
I'm back !
Did I miss anything good ? i left after TY vs Zest game 2.
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15945 Posts
November 14 2016 12:40 GMT
#717
why are players still attempting hellbat rushes when every zerg makes so many queens nowadays?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
November 14 2016 12:40 GMT
#718
Aren't hellbat timings already bad with medivacs? What were the odds that one without medivacs would do anything?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15945 Posts
November 14 2016 12:41 GMT
#719
On November 14 2016 21:40 Durnuu wrote:
I'm back !
Did I miss anything good ? i left after TY vs Zest game 2.

yeah Byun vs Byul is really good so far
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
dNa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany591 Posts
November 14 2016 12:41 GMT
#720
On November 14 2016 21:37 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2016 21:35 dNa wrote:
well playing straight up game on Apelolthis is silly honestly so worth a shot ;p

In all the games before he opened with at least 2-rax reaper. So apparently King Sejong is the only map worth playing straight-up.

Or we do a 2-base hellbat timing, that works too.

reaper openings transition well in a macro game though. At least if you don't suicide your reapers or zerg fucks up micro.
"a pitchfork is for hay. a trident is for killing bitches." -djwheat
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