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egrimm
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland1201 Posts
November 14 2016 12:09 GMT
#661
ByuN best Byu
sOs TY PartinG
petro1987
Profile Joined May 2009
Brazil374 Posts
November 14 2016 12:09 GMT
#662
Why Byul never transitioned out of lings/banes in game 1 and almost didn't in game 2?
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
November 14 2016 12:10 GMT
#663
C'mon ByuL, I want more Zerg play ;;

Seen enough TvP
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
November 14 2016 12:10 GMT
#664
On November 14 2016 21:07 dNa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2016 21:06 Elentos wrote:
Not gonna lie

The patch doesn't look very good.

how so... ? nothing about this game has anything to do with the patch in the first plac

That is exactly why. TvZ is still the same. PvP is still the same. ZvZ is still the same. TvT looks awful and PvT got even cheesier than it already was.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
dNa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany591 Posts
November 14 2016 12:10 GMT
#665
now it's 2rax reaper. :D
"a pitchfork is for hay. a trident is for killing bitches." -djwheat
munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
November 14 2016 12:11 GMT
#666
Just tuning in now, is there a reason stream quality is so shitty? And who's casting?
WriterForm is temporary, MMA is permanent || http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/508630-article-archive
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
November 14 2016 12:11 GMT
#667
On November 14 2016 21:11 munch wrote:
Just tuning in now, is there a reason stream quality is so shitty? And who's casting?


if you don't mind Korean
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16089 Posts
November 14 2016 12:12 GMT
#668
On November 14 2016 21:10 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2016 21:07 dNa wrote:
On November 14 2016 21:06 Elentos wrote:
Not gonna lie

The patch doesn't look very good.

how so... ? nothing about this game has anything to do with the patch in the first plac

That is exactly why. TvZ is still the same. PvP is still the same. ZvZ is still the same. TvT looks awful and PvT got even cheesier than it already was.

the players are still used to the old patch so don't expect that they know exactly how to play on the new patch.
I expect the meta to change quite drastically in a few months
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
November 14 2016 12:12 GMT
#669
On November 14 2016 21:11 munch wrote:
Just tuning in now, is there a reason stream quality is so shitty? And who's casting?

"munch"? Really?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16089 Posts
November 14 2016 12:13 GMT
#670
reaper...reaper always reaper
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
November 14 2016 12:13 GMT
#671
On November 14 2016 21:11 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2016 21:11 munch wrote:
Just tuning in now, is there a reason stream quality is so shitty? And who's casting?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S17K5KKltz4
if you don't mind Korean

ta <3

On November 14 2016 21:12 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2016 21:11 munch wrote:
Just tuning in now, is there a reason stream quality is so shitty? And who's casting?

"munch"? Really?

channeling my inner korean
WriterForm is temporary, MMA is permanent || http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/508630-article-archive
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
November 14 2016 12:13 GMT
#672
On November 14 2016 21:12 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2016 21:10 Elentos wrote:
On November 14 2016 21:07 dNa wrote:
On November 14 2016 21:06 Elentos wrote:
Not gonna lie

The patch doesn't look very good.

how so... ? nothing about this game has anything to do with the patch in the first plac

That is exactly why. TvZ is still the same. PvP is still the same. ZvZ is still the same. TvT looks awful and PvT got even cheesier than it already was.

the players are still used to the old patch so don't expect that they know exactly how to play on the new patch.
I expect the meta to change quite drastically in a few months

There's no reason for the meta to change much because many changes didn't affect units that are common in the meta. And the ones that did aren't going like Blizzard wanted them to (e.g. cyclone buff doesn't lead to mech in TvP but bio/cyclone instead).
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
dNa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany591 Posts
November 14 2016 12:14 GMT
#673
On November 14 2016 21:10 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2016 21:07 dNa wrote:
On November 14 2016 21:06 Elentos wrote:
Not gonna lie

The patch doesn't look very good.

how so... ? nothing about this game has anything to do with the patch in the first plac

That is exactly why. TvZ is still the same. PvP is still the same. ZvZ is still the same. TvT looks awful and PvT got even cheesier than it already was.


Well These players didn't spend much time trying out the new patch because most of them still play in tournaments on the old patch IIRC, which means that sticking to what they know and already trained to do is their best bet to win. Also it always takes some time to figure macro builds out after drastic changes, so there's going to be predominantly cheesiness in certain matchups.

I'm a huge fan of tankivacs so I'm not too much of a fan of the patch honestly but take all what you're seeing here with a grain of salt
"a pitchfork is for hay. a trident is for killing bitches." -djwheat
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
November 14 2016 12:15 GMT
#674
On November 14 2016 21:13 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2016 21:12 Charoisaur wrote:
On November 14 2016 21:10 Elentos wrote:
On November 14 2016 21:07 dNa wrote:
On November 14 2016 21:06 Elentos wrote:
Not gonna lie

The patch doesn't look very good.

how so... ? nothing about this game has anything to do with the patch in the first plac

That is exactly why. TvZ is still the same. PvP is still the same. ZvZ is still the same. TvT looks awful and PvT got even cheesier than it already was.

the players are still used to the old patch so don't expect that they know exactly how to play on the new patch.
I expect the meta to change quite drastically in a few months

There's no reason for the meta to change much because many changes didn't affect units that are common in the meta. And the ones that did aren't going like Blizzard wanted them to (e.g. cyclone buff doesn't lead to mech in TvP but bio/cyclone instead).

Basically bio (marines) is too strong
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16089 Posts
November 14 2016 12:16 GMT
#675
On November 14 2016 21:13 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2016 21:12 Charoisaur wrote:
On November 14 2016 21:10 Elentos wrote:
On November 14 2016 21:07 dNa wrote:
On November 14 2016 21:06 Elentos wrote:
Not gonna lie

The patch doesn't look very good.

how so... ? nothing about this game has anything to do with the patch in the first plac

That is exactly why. TvZ is still the same. PvP is still the same. ZvZ is still the same. TvT looks awful and PvT got even cheesier than it already was.

the players are still used to the old patch so don't expect that they know exactly how to play on the new patch.
I expect the meta to change quite drastically in a few months

There's no reason for the meta to change much because many changes didn't affect units that are common in the meta. And the ones that did aren't going like Blizzard wanted them to (e.g. cyclone buff doesn't lead to mech in TvP but bio/cyclone instead).

baneling buff and ultra/lib nerf are huge for tvz and the tempest nerf for pvt. also mech might become a thing.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Primelot
Profile Joined January 2014
51 Posts
November 14 2016 12:16 GMT
#676
Where is the Strim -_-
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
November 14 2016 12:16 GMT
#677
On November 14 2016 21:16 Primelot wrote:
Where is the Strim -_-

check.. this page..
I Protoss winner, could it be?
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
November 14 2016 12:17 GMT
#678
Think ByuL is winning this one. He has his bread and butter. The mutas
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
rednusa
Profile Joined October 2012
651 Posts
November 14 2016 12:18 GMT
#679
Why is ByuN making tanks in TvZ?
petro1987
Profile Joined May 2009
Brazil374 Posts
November 14 2016 12:18 GMT
#680
Oh... he realized that he can use mutas... That's great!
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