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Regardless of the situation, we will still action upon "dead game" comments. As this is a sensitive issue for SC2 fans, please do not come into this thread and talk about SC2 players switching over to BW. This thread is also not about bashing Blizzard, David Kim, or the WCS system.
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3175 Posts
October 18 2016 07:50 GMT
#381
After Legacy and Diablo 3 i think Blizzard if finally dead too. Wont talk about Heroes, Overwatch. Blizzard is now the new EA Games/Activision. At laest we have Arkane, CD Project now.


To me Blizzard died the day they made WoW and stopped with Warcraft as RTS.
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6120 Posts
October 18 2016 07:51 GMT
#382
I feel it was a long time coming. SC2 was not a spectator friendly game to watch. Nothing happens for 30 mins then a 10 sec attack move battle that decides the game. Or watching warp gate all ins.

Not gonna bash Blizzard but hope they learn their lesson from this. BW HD can be the sAviOr of starcraft.

At least Blizzard has got co-op right and it's super successful.
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zizerg
Profile Joined March 2010
Kyrgyzstan16 Posts
October 18 2016 07:52 GMT
#383
I feel it was a long time coming. SC2 was not a spectator friendly game to watch. Nothing happens for 30 mins then a 10 sec attack move battle that decides the game. Or watching warp gate all ins.


Are u joking? Average LotV game below 10 minutes...
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
October 18 2016 07:53 GMT
#384
On October 18 2016 16:49 Frenchy91 wrote:
Enjoy your Nerchio/Firecake 200K Final.


Ironically, a MaNa/Firecake 6 hour draw would be about the only thing that would make me watch Foreign SC2
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KappaKingPrime
Profile Joined May 2014
United States468 Posts
October 18 2016 07:53 GMT
#385
Oh god... RIP
Sharkken
Profile Joined October 2012
Jordan141 Posts
October 18 2016 07:56 GMT
#386
A phoenix shall rise from the ashes
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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
October 18 2016 07:57 GMT
#387
i would say that it's not Starcraft 2 that is in quite bad shape in Korea but the whole RTS genre in the entire world that is in bad shape

MOBA / competitive team game such as Overwatch / LoL / Dota / CSGO killed it, as simply as that
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stevorino
Profile Joined April 2011
957 Posts
October 18 2016 07:58 GMT
#388
rip, it was fun while it lasted.
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
October 18 2016 07:59 GMT
#389
As expected.
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stardog
Profile Joined August 2011
556 Posts
October 18 2016 07:59 GMT
#390
I'm almost glad a lot of my passion died with Life's demise...

While the scene is likely to survive, the new champions will probably get less respect in absence of the very top level players to benchmark overall skill. How does it work in BW post-mortem? Do the current top players get real recognition or their achievements are always taken with a grain of salt?
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
October 18 2016 08:00 GMT
#391
On October 18 2016 16:57 Makro wrote:
i would say that it's not Starcraft 2 that is in quite bad shape in Korea but the whole RTS genre in the entire world that is in bad shape

MOBA / competitive team game such as Overwatch / LoL / Dota / CSGO killed it, as simply as that


Games that are easy to play will always be more popular. Works that way in physical sports too. No one claims soccer is "strategic" or takes a lot of skill to play. But you can pick it up in 5 minutes and not be horrible at it. Same for Moba's and shooters, the skill ceiling is lower compared to an RTS.
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Mekare
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany393 Posts
October 18 2016 08:03 GMT
#392
Geez, this is so fucking sad.
gokai
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States812 Posts
October 18 2016 08:05 GMT
#393
Man, this just makes me sad about SC2 killing off BW. SC2 inherited the esports scene that started it all and here we are now... I'm just glad baduk and chess never got a sequel to kill it off, haha.
stardog
Profile Joined August 2011
556 Posts
October 18 2016 08:06 GMT
#394
On October 18 2016 17:00 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2016 16:57 Makro wrote:
i would say that it's not Starcraft 2 that is in quite bad shape in Korea but the whole RTS genre in the entire world that is in bad shape

MOBA / competitive team game such as Overwatch / LoL / Dota / CSGO killed it, as simply as that


Games that are easy to play will always be more popular. Works that way in physical sports too. No one claims soccer is "strategic" or takes a lot of skill to play. But you can pick it up in 5 minutes and not be horrible at it. Same for Moba's and shooters, the skill ceiling is lower compared to an RTS.

Football (known by some as soccer) is strategic and takes a lot of skill to play. After 5 minutes you're horrible at it and will get utterly destroyed even by mediocre amateurs. Kind of like in RTS games.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
October 18 2016 08:07 GMT
#395
On October 18 2016 16:59 stardog wrote:
I'm almost glad a lot of my passion died with Life's demise...

While the scene is likely to survive, the new champions will probably get less respect in absence of the very top level players to benchmark overall skill. How does it work in BW post-mortem? Do the current top players get real recognition or their achievements are always taken with a grain of salt?

It is obviously not top form but watching brood war is still just as exciting as you could ask for.

Watching GSL or Dreamhack or any tournament will still be exciting. It will be disappointing and it won't be as clinical over a greater timescale but it will still be entertaining.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 18 2016 08:09 GMT
#396
On October 18 2016 16:59 OtherWorld wrote:
As expected.

Basically. I'm surprised it lasted that long, the number of viewers it got was pretty absymal even last year. I'm sad about no PL and can't really say I'm surprised that so many teams are disbanding. I mean... outside of Proleague there isn't much Starcraft 2 in Korea anymore.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55593 Posts
October 18 2016 08:11 GMT
#397
"The Korean scene is healthy as fuck!"

- Shaun "Apollo" Clark

Don't worry guys this is fine.
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SlammerSC2
Profile Joined April 2013
77 Posts
October 18 2016 08:13 GMT
#398
On the bright side Korean teams are doing VERY VERY well in League of Legends
MarthTV
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany387 Posts
October 18 2016 08:14 GMT
#399
So we´ve finally reached that point.

Kespa should have never switched from BW to SC2. In retrospect it only hurt both scenes in Korea. SC2 was doing fine without Kespa und BW was depending on it.
Still both games will still exist as esports.
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Kashim
Profile Joined December 2013
Poland1238 Posts
October 18 2016 08:14 GMT
#400
sad
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