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Regardless of the situation, we will still action upon "dead game" comments. As this is a sensitive issue for SC2 fans, please do not come into this thread and talk about SC2 players switching over to BW. This thread is also not about bashing Blizzard, David Kim, or the WCS system. |
After Legacy and Diablo 3 i think Blizzard if finally dead too. Wont talk about Heroes, Overwatch. Blizzard is now the new EA Games/Activision. At laest we have Arkane, CD Project now.
To me Blizzard died the day they made WoW and stopped with Warcraft as RTS.
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I feel it was a long time coming. SC2 was not a spectator friendly game to watch. Nothing happens for 30 mins then a 10 sec attack move battle that decides the game. Or watching warp gate all ins.
Not gonna bash Blizzard but hope they learn their lesson from this. BW HD can be the sAviOr of starcraft.
At least Blizzard has got co-op right and it's super successful.
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I feel it was a long time coming. SC2 was not a spectator friendly game to watch. Nothing happens for 30 mins then a 10 sec attack move battle that decides the game. Or watching warp gate all ins.
Are u joking? Average LotV game below 10 minutes...
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On October 18 2016 16:49 Frenchy91 wrote: Enjoy your Nerchio/Firecake 200K Final.
Ironically, a MaNa/Firecake 6 hour draw would be about the only thing that would make me watch Foreign SC2
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Oh god... RIP
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A phoenix shall rise from the ashes
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i would say that it's not Starcraft 2 that is in quite bad shape in Korea but the whole RTS genre in the entire world that is in bad shape
MOBA / competitive team game such as Overwatch / LoL / Dota / CSGO killed it, as simply as that
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rip, it was fun while it lasted.
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I'm almost glad a lot of my passion died with Life's demise...
While the scene is likely to survive, the new champions will probably get less respect in absence of the very top level players to benchmark overall skill. How does it work in BW post-mortem? Do the current top players get real recognition or their achievements are always taken with a grain of salt?
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On October 18 2016 16:57 Makro wrote: i would say that it's not Starcraft 2 that is in quite bad shape in Korea but the whole RTS genre in the entire world that is in bad shape
MOBA / competitive team game such as Overwatch / LoL / Dota / CSGO killed it, as simply as that
Games that are easy to play will always be more popular. Works that way in physical sports too. No one claims soccer is "strategic" or takes a lot of skill to play. But you can pick it up in 5 minutes and not be horrible at it. Same for Moba's and shooters, the skill ceiling is lower compared to an RTS.
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Geez, this is so fucking sad.
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Man, this just makes me sad about SC2 killing off BW. SC2 inherited the esports scene that started it all and here we are now... I'm just glad baduk and chess never got a sequel to kill it off, haha.
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On October 18 2016 17:00 LongShot27 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2016 16:57 Makro wrote: i would say that it's not Starcraft 2 that is in quite bad shape in Korea but the whole RTS genre in the entire world that is in bad shape
MOBA / competitive team game such as Overwatch / LoL / Dota / CSGO killed it, as simply as that Games that are easy to play will always be more popular. Works that way in physical sports too. No one claims soccer is "strategic" or takes a lot of skill to play. But you can pick it up in 5 minutes and not be horrible at it. Same for Moba's and shooters, the skill ceiling is lower compared to an RTS. Football (known by some as soccer) is strategic and takes a lot of skill to play. After 5 minutes you're horrible at it and will get utterly destroyed even by mediocre amateurs. Kind of like in RTS games.
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On October 18 2016 16:59 stardog wrote: I'm almost glad a lot of my passion died with Life's demise...
While the scene is likely to survive, the new champions will probably get less respect in absence of the very top level players to benchmark overall skill. How does it work in BW post-mortem? Do the current top players get real recognition or their achievements are always taken with a grain of salt? It is obviously not top form but watching brood war is still just as exciting as you could ask for.
Watching GSL or Dreamhack or any tournament will still be exciting. It will be disappointing and it won't be as clinical over a greater timescale but it will still be entertaining.
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On October 18 2016 16:59 OtherWorld wrote: As expected. Basically. I'm surprised it lasted that long, the number of viewers it got was pretty absymal even last year. I'm sad about no PL and can't really say I'm surprised that so many teams are disbanding. I mean... outside of Proleague there isn't much Starcraft 2 in Korea anymore.
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"The Korean scene is healthy as fuck!" - Shaun "Apollo" Clark
Don't worry guys this is fine.
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On the bright side Korean teams are doing VERY VERY well in League of Legends
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So we´ve finally reached that point.
Kespa should have never switched from BW to SC2. In retrospect it only hurt both scenes in Korea. SC2 was doing fine without Kespa und BW was depending on it. Still both games will still exist as esports.
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sad
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