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On October 04 2016 06:25 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 06:20 LongShot27 wrote:On October 04 2016 06:17 Charoisaur wrote:On October 04 2016 06:08 LongShot27 wrote:On October 04 2016 06:05 Dodgin wrote:
I wonder if the system in Korea has begun to fail, thinking about how and why Byun and Neeb were able to win such big tournaments in this time period. I think the motivation level is falling for a lot pro's on Kespa teams, with all the rumors of disbandment and Proleague ending.
Of course I'm not trying to take away from their wins, they absolutely deserve it. It's interesting to see the rise of players who don't have that system in place and how they can now find success. Byun won through very solid mechanics, nothing weird about that. Neeb won through PvP and his opponents doing really really bad research agaisnt him which he took advantage of. Nothing to do with motivation. if they were more motivated they may have done more research about him. Or they did what Korean top tier players do. Think this one is in the bag so they focus on players they are more worried about. Not like it's hard to guess he's going to play disruptors again in the next game. They were just outclassed in PvP, which is weird considering the number of KR protoss going to Blizzcon.
They were just sure, they are so good that they will beet him even disruptor vs disruptor .. and they did not.
The more I am interested in his BlizzCon's group. Will Zest / Patience play something so that he does not get to disruptors? I hope so, as I am not interested in watching DPP (disruptor ping pong) for long minutes at BlizzCon.
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thank you so much neeb to finally make me the oportunity to say this : YES !!!! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! Neeb is french !!!!!
No offense, cheers from a stephano fan
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This deserves a USA chant.
USA USA USA
Go NEEB! That is so sick
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I have to say though, all those disruptor PvP games made me realize something. When both players have disruptors it's really hard to close out games even with sizable advantages.
I'm not sure how to feel about that. On the one hand it's pretty cool that this potential exists, because comebacks like these are usually not a thing in the other match-ups. On the other hand... it's based on units that can entirely ruin someone because they mistimed something by milliseconds.
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On October 04 2016 06:05 Dodgin wrote:
I wonder if the system in Korea has begun to fail, thinking about how and why Byun and Neeb were able to win such big tournaments in this time period. I think the motivation level is falling for a lot pro's on Kespa teams, with all the rumors of disbandment and Proleague ending.
Of course I'm not trying to take away from their wins, they absolutely deserve it. It's interesting to see the rise of players who don't have that system in place and how they can now find success.
I would think it's hard to stay motivated when you can only play a maximum of 5 tournaments a year plus proleague.
Meanwhile Neeb just goes to Korea and proves the top argument of the WCS supporters is bullshit. He faced Koreans with their "Established" training and beat them by going there, facing them consistently on ladder and getting better.
So why do we need WCS any more? Because Nerchio is still shit? (Couldn't resist jabbing back when he's been trolling recently  )
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On October 04 2016 06:42 showstealer1829 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 06:05 Dodgin wrote:
I wonder if the system in Korea has begun to fail, thinking about how and why Byun and Neeb were able to win such big tournaments in this time period. I think the motivation level is falling for a lot pro's on Kespa teams, with all the rumors of disbandment and Proleague ending.
Of course I'm not trying to take away from their wins, they absolutely deserve it. It's interesting to see the rise of players who don't have that system in place and how they can now find success. I would think it's hard to stay motivated when you can only play a maximum of 5 tournaments a year plus proleague. Meanwhile Neeb just goes to Korea and proves the top argument of the WCS supporters is bullshit. He faced Koreans with their "Established" training and beat them by going there, facing them consistently on ladder and getting better. So why do we need WCS any more? Because Nerchio is still shit? (Couldn't resist jabbing back when he's been trolling recently )
Yeah Neeb being the exception proves that, you are completely right. That's how that stuff works.
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On October 04 2016 06:37 Diabolique wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 06:25 Poopi wrote:On October 04 2016 06:20 LongShot27 wrote:On October 04 2016 06:17 Charoisaur wrote:On October 04 2016 06:08 LongShot27 wrote:On October 04 2016 06:05 Dodgin wrote:
I wonder if the system in Korea has begun to fail, thinking about how and why Byun and Neeb were able to win such big tournaments in this time period. I think the motivation level is falling for a lot pro's on Kespa teams, with all the rumors of disbandment and Proleague ending.
Of course I'm not trying to take away from their wins, they absolutely deserve it. It's interesting to see the rise of players who don't have that system in place and how they can now find success. Byun won through very solid mechanics, nothing weird about that. Neeb won through PvP and his opponents doing really really bad research agaisnt him which he took advantage of. Nothing to do with motivation. if they were more motivated they may have done more research about him. Or they did what Korean top tier players do. Think this one is in the bag so they focus on players they are more worried about. Not like it's hard to guess he's going to play disruptors again in the next game. They were just outclassed in PvP, which is weird considering the number of KR protoss going to Blizzcon. They were just sure, they are so good that they will beet him even disruptor vs disruptor .. and they did not. The more I am interested in his BlizzCon's group. Will Zest / Patience play something so that he does not get to disruptors? I hope so, as I am not interested in watching DPP (disruptor ping pong) for long minutes at BlizzCon.
"They were just sure, they are so good that they will beet him even disruptor vs disruptor .. and they did not."
This so much.
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On October 04 2016 06:37 hyuu wrote:
thank you so much neeb to finally make me the oportunity to say this : YES !!!! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! Neeb is french !!!!!
No offense, cheers from a stephano fan
Come on, Stephano is not French, he was representing I think Tunesia or Algeria in WESG ... so his participation in Nation Wars was just cheating the system!
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On October 04 2016 06:54 Diabolique wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 06:37 hyuu wrote:
thank you so much neeb to finally make me the oportunity to say this : YES !!!! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! Neeb is french !!!!!
No offense, cheers from a stephano fan Come on, Stephano is not French, he was representing I think Tunesia or Algeria in WESG ... so his participation in Nation Wars was just cheating the system!
He's about as French as french fries
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On October 04 2016 06:55 LongShot27 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 06:54 Diabolique wrote:On October 04 2016 06:37 hyuu wrote:
thank you so much neeb to finally make me the oportunity to say this : YES !!!! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! Neeb is french !!!!!
No offense, cheers from a stephano fan Come on, Stephano is not French, he was representing I think Tunesia or Algeria in WESG ... so his participation in Nation Wars was just cheating the system! He's about as French as french fries
No. He is definitely not from Belgium.
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Why would he leave best practice environment before Blizzcon?
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On October 04 2016 06:54 Diabolique wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 06:37 hyuu wrote:
thank you so much neeb to finally make me the oportunity to say this : YES !!!! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! Neeb is french !!!!!
No offense, cheers from a stephano fan Come on, Stephano is not French, he was representing I think Tunesia or Algeria in WESG ... so his participation in Nation Wars was just cheating the system!
The guy's born in Creteil, and went to high school in Saint Sernin in Toulouse, both eminently French cities. Would you please kindly make informed posts ?
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On October 04 2016 07:10 MyLovelyLurker wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 06:54 Diabolique wrote:On October 04 2016 06:37 hyuu wrote:
thank you so much neeb to finally make me the oportunity to say this : YES !!!! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! Neeb is french !!!!!
No offense, cheers from a stephano fan Come on, Stephano is not French, he was representing I think Tunesia or Algeria in WESG ... so his participation in Nation Wars was just cheating the system! The guy's born in Creteil, and went to high school in Saint Sernin in Toulouse, both eminently French cities. Would you please kindly make informed posts ?
A very german post.
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On October 04 2016 06:42 showstealer1829 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 06:05 Dodgin wrote:
I wonder if the system in Korea has begun to fail, thinking about how and why Byun and Neeb were able to win such big tournaments in this time period. I think the motivation level is falling for a lot pro's on Kespa teams, with all the rumors of disbandment and Proleague ending.
Of course I'm not trying to take away from their wins, they absolutely deserve it. It's interesting to see the rise of players who don't have that system in place and how they can now find success. I would think it's hard to stay motivated when you can only play a maximum of 5 tournaments a year plus proleague. Meanwhile Neeb just goes to Korea and proves the top argument of the WCS supporters is bullshit. He faced Koreans with their "Established" training and beat them by going there, facing them consistently on ladder and getting better. So why do we need WCS any more? Because Nerchio is still shit? (Couldn't resist jabbing back when he's been trolling recently )
If you genuinely think infrastructure has no impact on results you really need to get out and learn how the world works. Do you think Americans are just magically better at basketball or is it because they pump more resources into the sport, and have been doing so for decades, than the rest of the world combined? Replace Americans with Koreans and basketball with SC2 and you get the same thing.
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On October 04 2016 07:10 MyLovelyLurker wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 06:54 Diabolique wrote:On October 04 2016 06:37 hyuu wrote:
thank you so much neeb to finally make me the oportunity to say this : YES !!!! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! Neeb is french !!!!!
No offense, cheers from a stephano fan Come on, Stephano is not French, he was representing I think Tunesia or Algeria in WESG ... so his participation in Nation Wars was just cheating the system! The guy's born in Creteil, and went to high school in Saint Sernin in Toulouse, both eminently French cities. Would you please kindly make informed posts ?
That wasn't really a serious post. But Stephano did qualify for WESG through the African qualifier.
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On October 04 2016 07:12 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 07:10 MyLovelyLurker wrote:On October 04 2016 06:54 Diabolique wrote:On October 04 2016 06:37 hyuu wrote:
thank you so much neeb to finally make me the oportunity to say this : YES !!!! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! Neeb is french !!!!!
No offense, cheers from a stephano fan Come on, Stephano is not French, he was representing I think Tunesia or Algeria in WESG ... so his participation in Nation Wars was just cheating the system! The guy's born in Creteil, and went to high school in Saint Sernin in Toulouse, both eminently French cities. Would you please kindly make informed posts ? A very german post.
Savage
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On October 04 2016 07:13 LongShot27 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 07:12 Nebuchad wrote:On October 04 2016 07:10 MyLovelyLurker wrote:On October 04 2016 06:54 Diabolique wrote:On October 04 2016 06:37 hyuu wrote:
thank you so much neeb to finally make me the oportunity to say this : YES !!!! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! Neeb is french !!!!!
No offense, cheers from a stephano fan Come on, Stephano is not French, he was representing I think Tunesia or Algeria in WESG ... so his participation in Nation Wars was just cheating the system! The guy's born in Creteil, and went to high school in Saint Sernin in Toulouse, both eminently French cities. Would you please kindly make informed posts ? A very german post. Savage
Racist. In more ways than one.
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On October 04 2016 07:13 LongShot27 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 07:12 Nebuchad wrote:On October 04 2016 07:10 MyLovelyLurker wrote:On October 04 2016 06:54 Diabolique wrote:On October 04 2016 06:37 hyuu wrote:
thank you so much neeb to finally make me the oportunity to say this : YES !!!! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! Neeb is french !!!!!
No offense, cheers from a stephano fan Come on, Stephano is not French, he was representing I think Tunesia or Algeria in WESG ... so his participation in Nation Wars was just cheating the system! The guy's born in Creteil, and went to high school in Saint Sernin in Toulouse, both eminently French cities. Would you please kindly make informed posts ? A very german post. Savage
But I think the correct response would still be to ask MyLovelyLurker if they're from Romania.
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Congrats Neeb! Very impressive, you deserve it 
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On October 04 2016 07:15 Thax wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2016 07:13 LongShot27 wrote:On October 04 2016 07:12 Nebuchad wrote:On October 04 2016 07:10 MyLovelyLurker wrote:On October 04 2016 06:54 Diabolique wrote:On October 04 2016 06:37 hyuu wrote:
thank you so much neeb to finally make me the oportunity to say this : YES !!!! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! Neeb is french !!!!!
No offense, cheers from a stephano fan Come on, Stephano is not French, he was representing I think Tunesia or Algeria in WESG ... so his participation in Nation Wars was just cheating the system! The guy's born in Creteil, and went to high school in Saint Sernin in Toulouse, both eminently French cities. Would you please kindly make informed posts ? A very german post. Savage Racist. In more ways than one.
That isn't racist at all. I don't think you understand what that word means.
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