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Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
October 03 2016 21:37 GMT
#161
On October 04 2016 06:25 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 06:20 LongShot27 wrote:
On October 04 2016 06:17 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 04 2016 06:08 LongShot27 wrote:
On October 04 2016 06:05 Dodgin wrote:
I wonder if the system in Korea has begun to fail, thinking about how and why Byun and Neeb were able to win such big tournaments in this time period. I think the motivation level is falling for a lot pro's on Kespa teams, with all the rumors of disbandment and Proleague ending.

Of course I'm not trying to take away from their wins, they absolutely deserve it. It's interesting to see the rise of players who don't have that system in place and how they can now find success.


Byun won through very solid mechanics, nothing weird about that. Neeb won through PvP and his opponents doing really really bad research agaisnt him which he took advantage of. Nothing to do with motivation.

if they were more motivated they may have done more research about him.


Or they did what Korean top tier players do. Think this one is in the bag so they focus on players they are more worried about.

Not like it's hard to guess he's going to play disruptors again in the next game.
They were just outclassed in PvP, which is weird considering the number of KR protoss going to Blizzcon.

They were just sure, they are so good that they will beet him even disruptor vs disruptor .. and they did not.

The more I am interested in his BlizzCon's group. Will Zest / Patience play something so that he does not get to disruptors? I hope so, as I am not interested in watching DPP (disruptor ping pong) for long minutes at BlizzCon.
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hyuu
Profile Joined August 2011
163 Posts
October 03 2016 21:37 GMT
#162
thank you so much neeb to finally make me the oportunity to say this : YES !!!! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! Neeb is french !!!!!
No offense, cheers from a stephano fan
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
October 03 2016 21:38 GMT
#163
This deserves a USA chant.

USA USA USA

Go NEEB! That is so sick
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55572 Posts
October 03 2016 21:41 GMT
#164
I have to say though, all those disruptor PvP games made me realize something. When both players have disruptors it's really hard to close out games even with sizable advantages.

I'm not sure how to feel about that. On the one hand it's pretty cool that this potential exists, because comebacks like these are usually not a thing in the other match-ups. On the other hand... it's based on units that can entirely ruin someone because they mistimed something by milliseconds.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-03 21:43:12
October 03 2016 21:42 GMT
#165
On October 04 2016 06:05 Dodgin wrote:
I wonder if the system in Korea has begun to fail, thinking about how and why Byun and Neeb were able to win such big tournaments in this time period. I think the motivation level is falling for a lot pro's on Kespa teams, with all the rumors of disbandment and Proleague ending.

Of course I'm not trying to take away from their wins, they absolutely deserve it. It's interesting to see the rise of players who don't have that system in place and how they can now find success.


I would think it's hard to stay motivated when you can only play a maximum of 5 tournaments a year plus proleague.

Meanwhile Neeb just goes to Korea and proves the top argument of the WCS supporters is bullshit. He faced Koreans with their "Established" training and beat them by going there, facing them consistently on ladder and getting better.

So why do we need WCS any more? Because Nerchio is still shit? (Couldn't resist jabbing back when he's been trolling recently )
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
October 03 2016 21:50 GMT
#166
On October 04 2016 06:42 showstealer1829 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 06:05 Dodgin wrote:
I wonder if the system in Korea has begun to fail, thinking about how and why Byun and Neeb were able to win such big tournaments in this time period. I think the motivation level is falling for a lot pro's on Kespa teams, with all the rumors of disbandment and Proleague ending.

Of course I'm not trying to take away from their wins, they absolutely deserve it. It's interesting to see the rise of players who don't have that system in place and how they can now find success.


I would think it's hard to stay motivated when you can only play a maximum of 5 tournaments a year plus proleague.

Meanwhile Neeb just goes to Korea and proves the top argument of the WCS supporters is bullshit. He faced Koreans with their "Established" training and beat them by going there, facing them consistently on ladder and getting better.

So why do we need WCS any more? Because Nerchio is still shit? (Couldn't resist jabbing back when he's been trolling recently )

Yeah Neeb being the exception proves that, you are completely right. That's how that stuff works.
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LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
October 03 2016 21:50 GMT
#167
On October 04 2016 06:37 Diabolique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 06:25 Poopi wrote:
On October 04 2016 06:20 LongShot27 wrote:
On October 04 2016 06:17 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 04 2016 06:08 LongShot27 wrote:
On October 04 2016 06:05 Dodgin wrote:
I wonder if the system in Korea has begun to fail, thinking about how and why Byun and Neeb were able to win such big tournaments in this time period. I think the motivation level is falling for a lot pro's on Kespa teams, with all the rumors of disbandment and Proleague ending.

Of course I'm not trying to take away from their wins, they absolutely deserve it. It's interesting to see the rise of players who don't have that system in place and how they can now find success.


Byun won through very solid mechanics, nothing weird about that. Neeb won through PvP and his opponents doing really really bad research agaisnt him which he took advantage of. Nothing to do with motivation.

if they were more motivated they may have done more research about him.


Or they did what Korean top tier players do. Think this one is in the bag so they focus on players they are more worried about.

Not like it's hard to guess he's going to play disruptors again in the next game.
They were just outclassed in PvP, which is weird considering the number of KR protoss going to Blizzcon.

They were just sure, they are so good that they will beet him even disruptor vs disruptor .. and they did not.

The more I am interested in his BlizzCon's group. Will Zest / Patience play something so that he does not get to disruptors? I hope so, as I am not interested in watching DPP (disruptor ping pong) for long minutes at BlizzCon.



"They were just sure, they are so good that they will beet him even disruptor vs disruptor .. and they did not."

This so much.
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
October 03 2016 21:54 GMT
#168
On October 04 2016 06:37 hyuu wrote:
thank you so much neeb to finally make me the oportunity to say this : YES !!!! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! Neeb is french !!!!!
No offense, cheers from a stephano fan

Come on, Stephano is not French, he was representing I think Tunesia or Algeria in WESG ... so his participation in Nation Wars was just cheating the system!
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
October 03 2016 21:55 GMT
#169
On October 04 2016 06:54 Diabolique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 06:37 hyuu wrote:
thank you so much neeb to finally make me the oportunity to say this : YES !!!! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! Neeb is french !!!!!
No offense, cheers from a stephano fan

Come on, Stephano is not French, he was representing I think Tunesia or Algeria in WESG ... so his participation in Nation Wars was just cheating the system!


He's about as French as french fries
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
October 03 2016 21:56 GMT
#170
On October 04 2016 06:55 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 06:54 Diabolique wrote:
On October 04 2016 06:37 hyuu wrote:
thank you so much neeb to finally make me the oportunity to say this : YES !!!! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! Neeb is french !!!!!
No offense, cheers from a stephano fan

Come on, Stephano is not French, he was representing I think Tunesia or Algeria in WESG ... so his participation in Nation Wars was just cheating the system!


He's about as French as french fries

No. He is definitely not from Belgium.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
KappaKingPrime
Profile Joined May 2014
United States468 Posts
October 03 2016 21:58 GMT
#171
On October 04 2016 00:58 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 00:45 chipmonklord17 wrote:
I just hope he stays in Korea long enough to get into code A


Scarlett said Neeb will be going home soon. Staying in Korea during the off-season wouldn't do him much good anyway I think.

http://www.thescoreesports.com/sc2/news/10557-queen-of-the-north-scarlett-on-her-kings-of-the-north-win-and-her-time-in-korea

Why would he leave best practice environment before Blizzcon?
MyLovelyLurker
Profile Joined April 2007
France756 Posts
October 03 2016 22:10 GMT
#172
On October 04 2016 06:54 Diabolique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 06:37 hyuu wrote:
thank you so much neeb to finally make me the oportunity to say this : YES !!!! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! Neeb is french !!!!!
No offense, cheers from a stephano fan

Come on, Stephano is not French, he was representing I think Tunesia or Algeria in WESG ... so his participation in Nation Wars was just cheating the system!


The guy's born in Creteil, and went to high school in Saint Sernin in Toulouse, both eminently French cities. Would you please kindly make informed posts ?
"I just say, it doesn't matter win or lose, I just love Starcraft 2, I love this game, I love this stage, just play like in practice" - TIME/Oliveira
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12455 Posts
October 03 2016 22:12 GMT
#173
On October 04 2016 07:10 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 06:54 Diabolique wrote:
On October 04 2016 06:37 hyuu wrote:
thank you so much neeb to finally make me the oportunity to say this : YES !!!! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! Neeb is french !!!!!
No offense, cheers from a stephano fan

Come on, Stephano is not French, he was representing I think Tunesia or Algeria in WESG ... so his participation in Nation Wars was just cheating the system!


The guy's born in Creteil, and went to high school in Saint Sernin in Toulouse, both eminently French cities. Would you please kindly make informed posts ?


A very german post.
No will to live, no wish to die
Thax
Profile Joined July 2014
Belgium1060 Posts
October 03 2016 22:12 GMT
#174
On October 04 2016 06:42 showstealer1829 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 06:05 Dodgin wrote:
I wonder if the system in Korea has begun to fail, thinking about how and why Byun and Neeb were able to win such big tournaments in this time period. I think the motivation level is falling for a lot pro's on Kespa teams, with all the rumors of disbandment and Proleague ending.

Of course I'm not trying to take away from their wins, they absolutely deserve it. It's interesting to see the rise of players who don't have that system in place and how they can now find success.


I would think it's hard to stay motivated when you can only play a maximum of 5 tournaments a year plus proleague.

Meanwhile Neeb just goes to Korea and proves the top argument of the WCS supporters is bullshit. He faced Koreans with their "Established" training and beat them by going there, facing them consistently on ladder and getting better.

So why do we need WCS any more? Because Nerchio is still shit? (Couldn't resist jabbing back when he's been trolling recently )


If you genuinely think infrastructure has no impact on results you really need to get out and learn how the world works. Do you think Americans are just magically better at basketball or is it because they pump more resources into the sport, and have been doing so for decades, than the rest of the world combined? Replace Americans with Koreans and basketball with SC2 and you get the same thing.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55572 Posts
October 03 2016 22:12 GMT
#175
On October 04 2016 07:10 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 06:54 Diabolique wrote:
On October 04 2016 06:37 hyuu wrote:
thank you so much neeb to finally make me the oportunity to say this : YES !!!! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! Neeb is french !!!!!
No offense, cheers from a stephano fan

Come on, Stephano is not French, he was representing I think Tunesia or Algeria in WESG ... so his participation in Nation Wars was just cheating the system!


The guy's born in Creteil, and went to high school in Saint Sernin in Toulouse, both eminently French cities. Would you please kindly make informed posts ?

That wasn't really a serious post. But Stephano did qualify for WESG through the African qualifier.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
October 03 2016 22:13 GMT
#176
On October 04 2016 07:12 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 07:10 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
On October 04 2016 06:54 Diabolique wrote:
On October 04 2016 06:37 hyuu wrote:
thank you so much neeb to finally make me the oportunity to say this : YES !!!! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! Neeb is french !!!!!
No offense, cheers from a stephano fan

Come on, Stephano is not French, he was representing I think Tunesia or Algeria in WESG ... so his participation in Nation Wars was just cheating the system!


The guy's born in Creteil, and went to high school in Saint Sernin in Toulouse, both eminently French cities. Would you please kindly make informed posts ?


A very german post.


Savage
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
Thax
Profile Joined July 2014
Belgium1060 Posts
October 03 2016 22:15 GMT
#177
On October 04 2016 07:13 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 07:12 Nebuchad wrote:
On October 04 2016 07:10 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
On October 04 2016 06:54 Diabolique wrote:
On October 04 2016 06:37 hyuu wrote:
thank you so much neeb to finally make me the oportunity to say this : YES !!!! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! Neeb is french !!!!!
No offense, cheers from a stephano fan

Come on, Stephano is not French, he was representing I think Tunesia or Algeria in WESG ... so his participation in Nation Wars was just cheating the system!


The guy's born in Creteil, and went to high school in Saint Sernin in Toulouse, both eminently French cities. Would you please kindly make informed posts ?


A very german post.


Savage

Racist. In more ways than one.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55572 Posts
October 03 2016 22:15 GMT
#178
On October 04 2016 07:13 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 07:12 Nebuchad wrote:
On October 04 2016 07:10 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
On October 04 2016 06:54 Diabolique wrote:
On October 04 2016 06:37 hyuu wrote:
thank you so much neeb to finally make me the oportunity to say this : YES !!!! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! Neeb is french !!!!!
No offense, cheers from a stephano fan

Come on, Stephano is not French, he was representing I think Tunesia or Algeria in WESG ... so his participation in Nation Wars was just cheating the system!


The guy's born in Creteil, and went to high school in Saint Sernin in Toulouse, both eminently French cities. Would you please kindly make informed posts ?


A very german post.


Savage

But I think the correct response would still be to ask MyLovelyLurker if they're from Romania.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
October 03 2016 22:16 GMT
#179
Congrats Neeb! Very impressive, you deserve it
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LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
October 03 2016 22:17 GMT
#180
On October 04 2016 07:15 Thax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2016 07:13 LongShot27 wrote:
On October 04 2016 07:12 Nebuchad wrote:
On October 04 2016 07:10 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
On October 04 2016 06:54 Diabolique wrote:
On October 04 2016 06:37 hyuu wrote:
thank you so much neeb to finally make me the oportunity to say this : YES !!!! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! FRANCE ! Neeb is french !!!!!
No offense, cheers from a stephano fan

Come on, Stephano is not French, he was representing I think Tunesia or Algeria in WESG ... so his participation in Nation Wars was just cheating the system!


The guy's born in Creteil, and went to high school in Saint Sernin in Toulouse, both eminently French cities. Would you please kindly make informed posts ?


A very german post.


Savage

Racist. In more ways than one.


That isn't racist at all. I don't think you understand what that word means.
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
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