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bartus88
Netherlands491 Posts
On September 28 2016 00:18 Thouhastmail wrote: http://sports.news.naver.com/esports/news/read.nhn?oid=236&aid=0000147915 What are the comments; are they surprised or were they familiar with Neeb already? I'm curious how much foreign SC2 the Koreans watch. | ||
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Chewbacca1
11 Posts
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Koivusto
Finland542 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
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hssdgc
China24 Posts
On September 27 2016 23:54 Elentos wrote: ByuN 4-1 sOs, 4-1 Dear: "ByuN is such a god wow!" Zest 4-1 ByuN: "Holy fuck adepts are super broken TvP is literally unwinnable what the fuck Blizzard stop ruining my game!" Something here doesn't really add up guys. I'm just not sure what it is. Any Terran who destroys Protoss is a god BTW you cannot simply consider two bo3s equal bo7 series. | ||
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Tngabor
Serbia60 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On September 27 2016 23:54 Elentos wrote: ByuN 4-1 sOs, 4-1 Dear: "ByuN is such a god wow!" Zest 4-1 ByuN: "Holy fuck adepts are super broken TvP is literally unwinnable what the fuck Blizzard stop ruining my game!" Something here doesn't really add up guys. I'm just not sure what it is. It is the same olds problem: Even if it is perfectly balance protoss gameplay simply doesn't look and "feel" interesting/fair a lot of the time. Obviously there is a huge anti protoss bias going on, but why? Imo it is a lot about how the game looks when one race wins over the other. I will be honest and say that i don't get massively excited when watching mass adepts either. With that being said: Zest is best (in PvT) | ||
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Penev
28536 Posts
On September 28 2016 00:57 The_Red_Viper wrote: It is the same olds problem: Even if it is perfectly balance protoss gameplay simply doesn't look and "feel" interesting/fair a lot of the time. Obviously there is a huge anti protoss bias going on, but why? Imo it is a lot about how the game looks when one race wins over the other. I will be honest and say that i don't get massively excited when watching mass adepts either. With that being said: Zest is best (in PvT) nice sig | ||
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purakushi
United States3303 Posts
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stardog
556 Posts
On September 28 2016 00:18 Thouhastmail wrote: - Did you prepare something since you came to Korea? ▶ Actually, I did not expect myself to advance Ro.8. I've mostly practiced ZvZ 6 hours every day. And somehow I got Zest. Goes to Korea, helps Nerchio fix his ZvZ and still advances. What a baller. | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17750 Posts
On September 28 2016 01:06 purakushi wrote: Korea didn't hold it's just the first round On September 28 2016 00:57 The_Red_Viper wrote: It is the same olds problem: Even if it is perfectly balance protoss gameplay simply doesn't look and "feel" interesting/fair a lot of the time. Obviously there is a huge anti protoss bias going on, but why? Imo it is a lot about how the game looks when one race wins over the other. I will be honest and say that i don't get massively excited when watching mass adepts either. With that being said: Zest is best (in PvT) yea, it often doesn't look satisfying when protoss wins, it usually just looks disgusting even if it actually is fair lol, especially Zest in PvT... and that sig is quite good | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16089 Posts
On September 27 2016 23:54 BLinD-RawR wrote: I think it has to do with the extremes the fans go through with regards to the koreans in general and the WCS 2016 system. Korean beats Foreigner "gg all too easy, WCS made foreigners rich for nothing" Foreigner beats Koreans " WCS system has weakened Korean will to succeed, they don't care anymore" it's not like there's no truth to this. even neeb said that it's hard for koreans to stay motivated if they have nothing to play in. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16089 Posts
I think they are really fun units and they don't seem to strong either. I see a lot of games where they appear completely useless. Ultras on the other hand... also Neeb only beat a horribly out of shape Zest and a Rouge who has shown nothing the entire year. not too impressed. | ||
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Eiltonn
Germany307 Posts
On September 28 2016 00:57 The_Red_Viper wrote: It is the same olds problem: Even if it is perfectly balance protoss gameplay simply doesn't look and "feel" interesting/fair a lot of the time. Obviously there is a huge anti protoss bias going on, but why? Imo it is a lot about how the game looks when one race wins over the other. I will be honest and say that i don't get massively excited when watching mass adepts either. With that being said: Zest is best (in PvT) Yes its mostly about how the game itself looked. Win and Loss are influenced by a Million variables so its hard to find evidence that a certain Variable made the Difference in The end. Lots of Protoss things like Oracles rekking Mineral lines in seconds, DTs rekking everything or a huge Ball of adepts are frustrating to watch and play against at times. Besides that i hate the adept due to the ability to cancel Shades they can be basically in two places at the same time (aka Schroedingers Adept). On top of that the shade ability is almost never used in an exciting way. Usually its just used to Switch between Mineral lines that are being harassed or to bridge distances and therefor undermine defensive Position without real counterlplay to it. The predictablity to the shade use makes it rather boring. Basically the Adept is a stronger Zealot and thats it. Last but not least Adepts dont really allow for entertaining micro (just like Zealots) | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
On September 27 2016 23:42 OtherWorld wrote: Lolwhat is this earht2 did you sigbet ? | ||
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Musicus
Germany23580 Posts
On September 28 2016 01:22 Charoisaur wrote: don't understand the adept hate btw. I think they are really fun units and they don't seem to strong either. I see a lot of games where they appear completely useless. Ultras on the other hand... also Neeb only beat a horribly out of shape Zest and a Rouge who has shown nothing the entire year. not too impressed. well, that horribly out of shape Zest can still beat the current GSL champ twice, so I have to wonder what would still impress you in sc2 | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16089 Posts
On September 28 2016 01:29 Musicus wrote: well, that horribly out of shape Zest can still beat the current GSL champ twice, so I have to wonder what would still impress you in sc2 yeah but that was tvp where Zest was untouchable for half a year, surely he hasn't forgotten everything he knew about that matchup. in the other matchups however... at least we now know why he cannonrushed Trap. was probably his only shot at winning the game if his pvp is this bad. | ||
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Clazziquai10
Singapore1949 Posts
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Die4Ever
United States17750 Posts
On September 28 2016 01:25 Eiltonn wrote: Yes its mostly about how the game itself looked. Win and Loss are influenced by a Million variables so its hard to find evidence that a certain Variable made the Difference in The end. Lots of Protoss things like Oracles rekking Mineral lines in seconds, DTs rekking everything or a huge Ball of adepts are frustrating to watch and play against at times. Besides that i hate the adept due to the ability to cancel Shades they can be basically in two places at the same time (aka Schroedingers Adept). On top of that the shade ability is almost never used in an exciting way. Usually its just used to Switch between Mineral lines that are being harassed or to bridge distances and therefor undermine defensive Position without real counterlplay to it. The predictablity to the shade use makes it rather boring. Basically the Adept is a stronger Zealot and thats it. Last but not least Adepts dont really allow for entertaining micro (just like Zealots) Schroedingers Adept haha I love it | ||
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Musicus
Germany23580 Posts
On September 28 2016 01:33 Charoisaur wrote: yeah but that was tvp where Zest was untouchable for half a year, surely he hasn't forgotten everything he knew about that matchup. in the other matchups however... at least we now know why he cannonrushed Trap. was probably his only shot at winning the game if his pvp is this bad. Sure, Zest has stronger and weaker matchups, but you can not deny that ByuN is the best Terran in the world and that Zest just beat him twice, which still puts him on that top level as a player overall. And an 18 year old american kid, just flew to Korea and 4-0ed his group against some of the very best players in Korea. Yes he luckily got to dodge ByuN, but if you look at the history of foreigners competing in Korea, look at the history of NA sc2, this achievement is still huge and should objectively speaking be classified as "impressive". | ||
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