EPTNeeb wins KeSPA Cup Group A with 4-0 score; Zest knocks ou…
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FrkFrJss
Canada1208 Posts
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FrkFrJss
Canada1208 Posts
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lestye
United States4241 Posts
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SeriousLus
169 Posts
On September 27 2016 23:46 alukarD wrote: Seriously, people don't want foreigners to do good vs Koreans, and if they do, they are raging and blaming balance. I've been rooting for Neeb for a while now and I'm really happy for him, and now we have someone to cheer for on a major Korean bracket. Come on guys!! theres that.. but then again - this is the picture we got way too often in the last 6ish months.. the 2 Protoss advance as usual.. booring (and the non korean that advanced is the one living and "training" in Korea AND playing Protoss, so...) good result for Neeb ofc but there are factors to be considered here | ||
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FrkFrJss
Canada1208 Posts
On September 28 2016 16:05 SeriousLus wrote: theres that.. but then again - this is the picture we got way too often in the last 6ish months.. the 2 Protoss advance as usual.. booring (and the non korean that advanced is the one living and "training" in Korea AND playing Protoss, so...) good result for Neeb ofc but there are factors to be considered here I looked up the premier tournaments in LotV 2016, and the times when two Protoss advanced was 3 times. One of those was Neeb. So, unless you're talking qualifiers, I have no idea what you're talking about. Protoss over the last two months has been performing slightly below the other two races. Yes, there are factors, but they have little to do with the ones you mentioned. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On September 28 2016 14:35 FrkFrJss wrote: No worries. Neeb may have gotten out of his group, but I give him a smaller chance of making it to the ro4 or higher. That is, unless he faces Protoss. It depends how seriousy his opponents take him. Zest tried to break him with harass and heavy pressure but it didn't work, Neeb defended perfectly. In a solid macro game I think Zest's experience would give him a lead. The other protoss in the cup are pretty damn good. Stats and classic have shown some of the best PvP ever. Neeb's best chance is fighting herO I think. Hope he doesn't meet a terran player in the ro8 | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
There's still 7 others though :x | ||
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FrkFrJss
Canada1208 Posts
On September 28 2016 16:43 Fango wrote: It depends how seriousy his opponents take him. Zest tried to break him with harass and heavy pressure but it didn't work, Neeb defended perfectly. In a solid macro game I think Zest's experience would give him a lead. The other protoss in the cup are pretty damn good. Stats and classic have shown some of the best PvP ever. Neeb's best chance is fighting herO I think. Hope he doesn't meet a terran player in the ro8 True, Zest definitely has a lot more experience with the long game in PvP. The only thing though, (and I do realize it was only one map) was that the second game was a decently long macro game, and Neeb dominated that game. It wasn't like Neeb got a super early advantage (wait....actually he did), but not like he did a ton of early economic damage to Zest. Oh yeah, btw, Zest had a 33 second supply block). At the time that they fought, they weren't that far apart with regards to tech, value, and supply. So perhaps Zest's experience would be more apparent at longer series. Yes, the other Protoss are good, and I would give Stats and Classic the better chances of beating him. Patience, and as you mentioned, herO, would likely be his easiest opponents. Patience is good right now, and he will be motivated by fighting for his Blizzcon life, but he does not fight in clean games. His wins are often with quite a few mistakes thrown in. I think what gives me more confidence for a PvP specialist is that when a player less prone to weird builds or being unable to figure out the counter for a composition because that is the player's own race. And though Neeb hasn't faced many/any Koreans who are really good in PvP, It is still the matchup he is probably most confident in (given his recent record in PvP). | ||
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JAG.war
United States76 Posts
This wasn't done 1-2 years ago. Now most major tournaments are spoiled. TL is much more than a news site or an ESPN.com; people also come here to get VOD links, catch up on other SC news while they watch said VODs, and several other things. Nobody comes here for spoilers... and if someone wants them, they can easily click on the article - they don't need it on a silver platter at the expense of the other 99.999%. Worst case scenario: there used to be a no-spoilers button, maybe bring it back? Again great coverage. Hope I'm not coming off as a curmudgeon  | ||
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StabiloBoss20
313 Posts
On September 28 2016 00:18 Thouhastmail wrote: - At first, it seemed you're taken by Rogue's baneling drops. How did you make a comeback? I was prepared for his baneling drops. Since I was preparing for DTs, I thought I can reverse the situation with Archons. comeback? at which point Neeb was behind? Yes, rogue got some probes with bane drops, but he spent every single gas for that. he had basicly no army after that and neeb walked easily over him. that was already a desperation move! | ||
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
At the times of dawn for SC2, every new sponsor, who puts his money into SC2 deserves lots of credit, as it is saving our eSport! And now, it paid off! After winning the Telecom wars in Korea, their name appears everywhere! Good job, TING! | ||
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-KG-
Denmark1219 Posts
Also happy to see Neeb perform so well - wow. Hopefully it isn't a one hit wonder but something that will continue for the foreigners (go Nerchio!!). And the SPARKULING korean ads were the icing on the cake! (anyone know if you can get those products in the EU...for some reason I feel like I really need them!) | ||
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
On September 28 2016 17:55 -KG- wrote: Happy I watched live and didn't eat the spoiler :s Also happy to see Neeb perform so well - wow. Hopefully it isn't a one hit wonder but something that will continue for the foreigners (go Nerchio!!). And the SPARKULING korean ads were the icing on the cake! (anyone know if you can get those products in the EU...for some reason I feel like I really need them!) I am sure, unfortunately, the water does not come with that girl ... you just need to record her voice and use the "sparkuling" in your alarm clock! | ||
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MoonyD
Australia191 Posts
On September 28 2016 16:05 SeriousLus wrote: theres that.. but then again - this is the picture we got way too often in the last 6ish months.. the 2 Protoss advance as usual.. booring (and the non korean that advanced is the one living and "training" in Korea AND playing Protoss, so...) good result for Neeb ofc but there are factors to be considered here Could not agree more with first post. No matter the outcome, there was always going to be salty complaints from people it seems. If Need wins, people cry Protoss imba. If Neeb loses, people rage about WCS format and how foreigners don't stand a chance vs Koreans. Seriously guys, let's all just be happy at the fact that Neeb, a foreigner, beat two solid Code-S / Proleague players with a perfect clean sweep. Don't take anything away from him by saying it's a matter of balance. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
Nope, I'm out of the business because I'm still waiting for my sentence from a month-old sigbet | ||
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-Strider-
Mexico1605 Posts
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iamkaokao
108 Posts
On September 28 2016 23:12 -Strider- wrote: I can't believe how inconsistent sc2 is it was alrdy hard to be consistent in hots, in lotv it feels imposible with all the new units the game is just harder to dominate with so many more variables | ||
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phodacbiet
United States1740 Posts
On September 29 2016 00:11 iamkaokao wrote: it was alrdy hard to be consistent in hots, in lotv it feels imposible with all the new units the game is just harder to dominate with so many more variables Really? I think it's more consistent than ever! These are pretty much the big names we've been seeing for the past year. Of course, within the top 16 players or so, results may vary because they are so close in skill level, but other than that it seems pretty consistent to me. At least compared to WoL where it felt like a different zerg every final towards the end. | ||
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Parrek
United States893 Posts
On September 29 2016 00:11 iamkaokao wrote: it was alrdy hard to be consistent in hots, in lotv it feels imposible with all the new units the game is just harder to dominate with so many more variables Less variables means it's harder to dominate because there's less making you better than your opponent. There's a reason Flash dominated so hard. He could do everything needed in BW and it was basically impossible for anyone to match his accuracy and speed. In SC2, LotV has a lot more things and little tricks and such to do to gain an advantage, like shade blocking vs adepts, prism micro, more projectile attacks so Terran can also dropship micro, and more than in HotS. | ||
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suddendeathTV
Sweden388 Posts
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