• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:35
CEST 07:35
KST 14:35
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy18ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win0[BSL22] RO32 Group Stage1Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research8Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2)
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone
Brood War
General
so ive been playing broodwar for a week straight. ASL21 General Discussion [BSL22] RO32 Group Stage Gypsy to Korea Pros React To: JaeDong vs Queen
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group F Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group E
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Chess Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread NASA and the Private Sector Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
China Uses Video Games to Sh…
TrAiDoS
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Electronics
mantequilla
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 13437 users

Explaining the New Ladder - Page 3

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
evolsiefil
Profile Joined October 2015
143 Posts
July 13 2016 13:27 GMT
#41
just played my placement match.. post screen said my mmr is 4800 somewhat.. can someone explain to me why it says my mmr is 23 when i go to my profile? everyone elses mmr gets displayed correctly in the high 4k area, only me and very few other have 2 digits mmr? why is that? thanks.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 13 2016 13:51 GMT
#42
On July 13 2016 22:27 evolsiefil wrote:
just played my placement match.. post screen said my mmr is 4800 somewhat.. can someone explain to me why it says my mmr is 23 when i go to my profile? everyone elses mmr gets displayed correctly in the high 4k area, only me and very few other have 2 digits mmr? why is that? thanks.

I've got the same problem for whatever reason. Displayed MMR is 16.
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
July 13 2016 14:41 GMT
#43
Does it exactly take 25 games to make your MMR non-provisional? Or is it based on the MMR uncertainty and 25 is just an approximation?
craz3d
Profile Joined August 2005
Bulgaria856 Posts
July 13 2016 14:52 GMT
#44
On July 13 2016 01:40 BronzeKnee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2016 13:02 Siegetank_Dieter wrote:
it seems like you can only see your progress bar after a match.

i don't know why you can't always open this window.


The technology just isn't there yet.

We're talking about Blizzard entertainment here. As someone who designs software, you'd think they'd have a bunch of end users involved closely in the development process to ensure stuff like this doesn't happen, but... agile techniques haven't exactly made their way to Blizzard.

Because the right people just aren't there yet.


Yea, I don't see why I can't simply go to my last match and click on the ladder/experience button. Maybe because then you'd be able to go into other profiles' last matches to see their MMR, thus infringing on privacy? What's the worse that could happen... someone teasing me about my low MMR? Have we gotten that soft ffs.
Hello World!
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 13 2016 15:40 GMT
#45
since patch 3.4 lib circles are really hard to see I hope they investigate this issue
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12240 Posts
July 13 2016 16:07 GMT
#46
On July 13 2016 23:41 paralleluniverse wrote:
Does it exactly take 25 games to make your MMR non-provisional? Or is it based on the MMR uncertainty and 25 is just an approximation?


According to http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/18792768/starcraft-ii-ladder-update-april-27-2015-4-27-2015 under "New Player" Logic, it's "around" 25 games. 25 may be an upper limit (and this is consistent with when skeldark and Not_That would see league changes in the old MMR-Stats tool) or it may be enforced. Some players have reported that they've been promoted earlier, but they haven't clearly stated whether they had 25 recent career ranked games (say, 15 last season and 10 this season would still be enough to break out of provisional status).
Moderator
JayuSC2
Profile Joined April 2015
Austria32 Posts
July 13 2016 16:47 GMT
#47
Since this new ladder change, almost all my wins give me less than 10 points (against equal MMR) and I lose tons (-20), so I'm stuck at 13 points with a 13-8 winrate. My MMR should be closer to Master 2 (4800), but I'm stuck at super low Masters 3. What is this all about?
Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-13 17:52:44
July 13 2016 17:49 GMT
#48
--- Nuked ---
Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-13 18:31:47
July 13 2016 18:29 GMT
#49
--- Nuked ---
Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
July 13 2016 19:06 GMT
#50
--- Nuked ---
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17413 Posts
July 13 2016 19:46 GMT
#51
i just got promoted from diamond 3 to diamond 2

i guess promotions and demotions between tiers will be very fluid. gives me more a sense of progress than i had before.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
jyuj
Profile Joined October 2007
Australia103 Posts
July 13 2016 19:51 GMT
#52
Hmmm Blizzard has money for fancy new ladders. Maybe they will have some money for fancy new ways to stop the hacks.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17413 Posts
July 13 2016 19:55 GMT
#53
hacking on an RTS can't be stopped.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
CruiseR
Profile Joined November 2004
Poland4014 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-13 21:24:42
July 13 2016 21:22 GMT
#54
sorry if it has been answered already, but why on some players' profiles I can see their full MMR, means 4 digit number, like 5125 or whatever

but on some other's (including my own profile!) I can only see 2 digit MMR, like 32 or 16? can I somewhat calculate full 4-digit MMR when given only this 2 digit one?
Right now I cannot even compare my own MMR to others, is it a bug that Blizzard is aware of?

Thanks in advance.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12240 Posts
July 13 2016 21:32 GMT
#55
Yes it's a display bug that goes away when that profile plays another game.
Moderator
Senkii
Profile Joined December 2012
Hungary37 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-13 22:21:00
July 13 2016 22:20 GMT
#56
Huh, it seems you can be promoted even if your bar is not full...
I played 3 games.
After i won my first i was put int dia 3 with bar full, and just at the edge of the MMR limit
Second match i lost, dropped my bar off some.
Thrid match i won, and bam, promotion!

Maybe you don't need to win 2 times in a row to be promoted... The game just checks your MMR?
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12240 Posts
July 13 2016 22:23 GMT
#57
On July 14 2016 07:20 Senkii wrote:
Huh, it seems you can be promoted even if your bar is not full...
I played 3 games.
After i won my first i was put int dia 3 with bar full, and just at the edge of the MMR limit
Second match i lost, dropped my bar off some.
Thrid match i won, and bam, promotion!

Maybe you don't need to win 2 times in a row to be promoted... The game just checks your MMR?


What do you think this is, League of Legends?
Moderator
Senkii
Profile Joined December 2012
Hungary37 Posts
July 13 2016 22:58 GMT
#58
They sounded like it in the teaser.
Btw -3 bonus pool ftw.
TheWinks
Profile Joined July 2011
United States572 Posts
July 13 2016 23:10 GMT
#59
On July 14 2016 07:20 Senkii wrote:
Maybe you don't need to win 2 times in a row to be promoted... The game just checks your MMR?

I played my placement, lost it, played another game, lost it, bar was empty, got promoted.
evolsiefil
Profile Joined October 2015
143 Posts
July 13 2016 23:36 GMT
#60
On July 14 2016 06:22 CruiseR wrote:
sorry if it has been answered already, but why on some players' profiles I can see their full MMR, means 4 digit number, like 5125 or whatever

but on some other's (including my own profile!) I can only see 2 digit MMR, like 32 or 16? can I somewhat calculate full 4-digit MMR when given only this 2 digit one?
Right now I cannot even compare my own MMR to others, is it a bug that Blizzard is aware of?

Thanks in advance.


hasnt been answered yet, i asked the same question above. hopefully someone will know what this is about. its very annoying to me.
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
CranKy Ducklings
00:00
TLMC #22: Map Judging #1
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 121
ROOTCatZ 74
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 5828
GuemChi 4715
Leta 517
Tasteless 226
Snow 144
sSak 52
ajuk12(nOOB) 31
soO 30
Sacsri 15
Noble 11
[ Show more ]
Icarus 7
League of Legends
JimRising 852
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 1653
Stewie2K1389
m0e_tv465
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0278
Mew2King90
Other Games
summit1g10328
NeuroSwarm82
RuFF_SC212
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1044
BasetradeTV295
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1094
• Lourlo1066
• Stunt503
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4h 25m
PiGosaur Cup
18h 25m
Replay Cast
1d 3h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 6h
Replay Cast
1d 18h
The PondCast
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
WardiTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Team League
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
BSL
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
WardiTV Team League
5 days
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Elite League 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W2
IPSL Spring 2026
Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
uThermal 2v2 Last Chance Qualifiers 2026
RSL Revival: Season 5
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.