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Hularuns
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Solstice245
United States145 Posts
On June 29 2016 18:02 summerloud wrote: go try heptacraft at least its patched regularly and DK has no part in it  http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/508343-sc2-mod-heptacraft-release-trailer The shameless advertising. :D | ||
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Ej_
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On June 30 2016 00:39 TheWinks wrote: The queen buff was literally the change that ushered in infestor/blord. It wasn't some coincidence that people erroneously associate with it. Being able to defend with queens with a smaller number of other units or even without investing in other units means a larger economy faster so that the late game is more accessible earlier. Any buff that strengthens the zerg midgame will have this effect, but the concern around the queen's strength is valid and grounded in the history of the game. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. very convenietly skipping the next paragraph of Snute's post which talks about how queen range buff and BL/infestor weren't connected design wise. the point that you seem to be missing is that you can buff zerg early game and nerf their late game | ||
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Clazziquai10
Singapore1949 Posts
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Topdoller
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TheWildShooter
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RaFox17
Finland4581 Posts
On June 30 2016 03:37 TheWildShooter wrote: Great changes. Now a-moving other races as zerg will be even easier. I am seriously thinking about switching to zerg or abandoning SC2 completely. You are going to a-move with queens? Thats gonna take some time. I guess you can create a creep high-way with overlords or queens. Are you gonna use spores also? That takes some micro but i guess it´s still ok.. You should switch to Zerg as it is the race to be. | ||
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TheWinks
United States572 Posts
On June 30 2016 01:40 Ej_ wrote: very convenietly skipping the next paragraph of Snute's post which talks about how queen range buff and BL/infestor weren't connected design wise. the point that you seem to be missing is that you can buff zerg early game and nerf their late game I didn't skip anything, it just wasn't worth saying 'no, they're totally connected design-wise' when I could just use an example of how early game was connected to late game design wise. One of, if not the primary reasoning for justifying the strength 8 armor 'T3' ultras is the difficulty in successfully reaching them. Therefore ANY change to the early/mid game that increases accessibility to the ultra is in some way connected to the ultra design-wise because it weakens that justification for its strength. Snute does not advocate a simultaneous buff to early/mid game and a late game nerf, just that if things are screwed up then they can fix that problem when they reach it. I also disagreed with that because not only do we have evidence that such compensation would be necessary, but if the balance team inadvertently makes Blord/Infestor 2: David Kim Boogaloo despite all these warning signs and the fact that it was in fact also a queen buff in Wings that did immeasurable harm to the game, their reputation may never recover without a shakeup. | ||
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Cluster__
United States328 Posts
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Dunmer
United Kingdom568 Posts
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aRyuujin
United States5049 Posts
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ejozl
Denmark3510 Posts
On June 30 2016 00:18 MiCroLiFe wrote: zerg is to strong as it is. more queen stuff? more queen all ins whit nydus and overlord drops User was temp banned for this post. Dno why this user was banned. Even if statistics say Zerg is the weakest race, it's not factual. If it has something to do with his signature, or history, then pardon me. Just looking at the new Spore Crawler root time, it just looks ridiculous and should not be in the game, though it's not the first time something that does not belong gets implemented. I think the balance team might be a bit too tunnel visioned on balance and is not considering what looks good aesthetically and the design of it. The biggest part of being a progamer is solving problems, let them be the problem solvers, you should merely provide the tools. | ||
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washikie
United States752 Posts
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Hularuns
United Kingdom37 Posts
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Tuczniak
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Scurvy
United States117 Posts
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Soke
United States790 Posts
On June 30 2016 04:27 ejozl wrote: Dno why this user was banned. Even if statistics say Zerg is the weakest race, it's not factual. If it has something to do with his signature, or history, then pardon me. Just looking at the new Spore Crawler root time, it just looks ridiculous and should not be in the game, though it's not the first time something that does not belong gets implemented. I think the balance team might be a bit too tunnel visioned on balance and is not considering what looks good aesthetically and the design of it. The biggest part of being a progamer is solving problems, let them be the problem solvers, you should merely provide the tools. The twitch emote he used in his post is not allowed on TL forums :s | ||
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SHODAN
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SwiftCrane
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