On April 14 2016 04:07 Jealous wrote: 3. The subjective viability of someone qualifying is not relevant to the fact that the crime was committed. He went on EU server, queued against his teammate, then left before countdown timer. This is textbook giving free wins.
So if the Rank 1 player on the ladder got queued against bronze players somehow, and instantly left, during the countdown timer, you would advocate for his disqualification?
Of course the viability of someone qualifying or not matters.
major you are a dirty liar and nobody believes you, what GM just ques a game and leaves it to "go lie down" seems like you would just GO LIE DOWN, infact major if you are reading this, you and your career should #GOLIEDOWN #GOLIARDOWN
On April 13 2016 16:15 Shortizz wrote: People are really buying his story?
His lame attempts to justify account sharing and leaving a game to gift points? Anyone whose on TL since sc2 launch would know what kind of person this guy is. Perfectly justified ban IMO, hope it stays this way too.
Not that it clouds my judgement on this topic, but i have played this guy a few times on the ladder and he is just a pure scum.
How is it giving points when he has a winning record against each player on the same day and took more points from them than they did from him ?
This keeps coming up from multiple posters so I'm going to conclusively explain it here, at least in regards to his teammate:
1. The wins were BEFORE the two losses. Then when there were 4 hours remaining, he lost 2 matches. This gives credence to the possibility that his teammate messaged him 4 hours before the end of the qualifier and said "please I just need some points man." Major had nothing to lose (or so he thought) as it's not his region's qualifier, so he thought "why not?"
2. Regardless of how many points he won earlier in the day, he still gave points. That is not debatable. As I said in a previous post, even if he took more points than he gave, it does not change the fact that he gave points. Look at it this way:
-10 points Loss somewhere in the 24 hours before deadline -10 points Loss somewhere in the 24 hours before deadline -10 points Loss somewhere in the 24 hours before deadline -10 points Loss somewhere in the 24 hours before deadline -10 points Loss somewhere in the 24 hours before deadline -10 points Loss somewhere in the 24 hours before deadline +10 points Win 4 hours before deadline (GIVEN FOR FREE BEFORE THE GAME EVEN STARTED) +10 points Win 4 hours before deadline, immediately after having left during queue, with two back-to-back cheese attempts against a player he beat soundly 6 times in a row that very day
It doesn't matter how many points changed hands. Major is still guilty of giving points for free, at least one time. That is inalienable fact.
Consequences dont matter when considering punishments? Thats a new one.
So if I cheat and lose it isn't deserving of the same punishment? You must root devious behavior out, top to bottom.
You a happy crusader now? In other news, MarineLorD said MajOr is innocent.
He's said MajOr is not complicit to the win-trading with DnS (though MajOr did have access to that account). He hasn't said anything about (and probably doesn't know the details of) the rest of MajOr's ladder behaviour.
I can just imagine Major going through this in front of his screen, "Ugh... I feel so shitty .. I'm going to queue up again! I must, even though there is no benefit to me and my laddering affects other people who are trying to qualify in this tour!"
Then, as soon as the countdown starts, he can't hold it anymore, and he stumbles his way to the bathroom, is sick, feels like shit, takes medicine, looks forlornly at his bed... "no, wey, you cannot give up, you have pointless ladder games to do."
So he forces himself to sit down at his computer once more, "ok... *burp* I'll be ok this time..."
And then this repeats over and over (by his own admission)? Rofl. Let me see that doctor's note.
The people defending Major are doing the equivalent of accepting the "my dog ate my homework" excuse. Can't be proven, can't be disproven. You are also accepting that Major knew he was too sick to play, and kept queuing anyway, in ladder games that had the potential to affect qualifiers. He ignored his condition and ended up giving two easy wins to his opponent, who just so happens to be his teammate, and doesn't think there is any sort of problem with this. Riiiiiight. If this is all true, then Major must be intellectually handicapped. If it's not true, then he is a rule-breaking liar and a cheat.
so if my internet dropped after finding a game im a cheater too? shit happens theres about 100000 stuff it can happen after u find a game. what if i had a important phone call that i had to take and was gonna lsat long? im still a cheater? it just happened to be i needed to go to the bathroom so use your brain before commenting
Internet dropping, there would be a record of it, no? Player disconnected?
F10 + P, "Sorry I gotta take this call, get the door, take a shit, make an excuse about how my dog ate my homework, write this doctor's note, and take my medicine, please wait." If the other person leaves, you get the points, ezmoney.
Oh for f sake. Reading the rest of this thread is a complete eye sore. You do realize there are other ways of disconnecting right? You don't need hacks to shake your head at that one. I knew people who used to unplug their pcs or d/c their internet/modems as they were about to lose games. Hence d/c. The fact you're using the ladder creates all kinds of fucking problems. Remember TSL guys and how bad it was to admin that kind of shit. In this situation I can only shake my head and it's funny because I haven't heard of many scenarios like this in quite a while.
Blizzard your system is a joke and you don't have the arms in frigging place to monitor all the accounts on your ladder nor should you.
I can just imagine Major going through this in front of his screen, "Ugh... I feel so shitty .. I'm going to queue up again! I must, even though there is no benefit to me and my laddering affects other people who are trying to qualify in this tour!"
Then, as soon as the countdown starts, he can't hold it anymore, and he stumbles his way to the bathroom, is sick, feels like shit, takes medicine, looks forlornly at his bed... "no, wey, you cannot give up, you have pointless ladder games to do."
So he forces himself to sit down at his computer once more, "ok... *burp* I'll be ok this time..."
And then this repeats over and over (by his own admission)? Rofl. Let me see that doctor's note.
The people defending Major are doing the equivalent of accepting the "my dog ate my homework" excuse. Can't be proven, can't be disproven. You are also accepting that Major knew he was too sick to play, and kept queuing anyway, in ladder games that had the potential to affect qualifiers. He ignored his condition and ended up giving two easy wins to his opponent, who just so happens to be his teammate, and doesn't think there is any sort of problem with this. Riiiiiight. If this is all true, then Major must be intellectually handicapped. If it's not true, then he is a rule-breaking liar and a cheat.
so if my internet dropped after finding a game im a cheater too? shit happens theres about 100000 stuff it can happen after u find a game. what if i had a important phone call that i had to take and was gonna lsat long? im still a cheater? it just happened to be i needed to go to the bathroom so use your brain before commenting
Internet dropping, there would be a record of it, no? Player disconnected?
F10 + P, "Sorry I gotta take this call, get the door, take a shit, make an excuse about how my dog ate my homework, write this doctor's note, and take my medicine, please wait." If the other person leaves, you get the points, ezmoney.
Oh for f sake. Reading the rest of this thread is a complete eye sore. You do realize there are other ways of disconnecting right? You don't need hacks to shake your head at that one. I knew people who used to unplug their pcs or d/c their internet/modems as they were about to lose games. Hence d/c. The fact you're using the ladder creates all kinds of fucking problems. Remember TSL guys and how bad it was to admin that kind of shit. In this situation I can only shake my head and it's funny because I haven't heard of many scenarios like this in quite a while.
Blizzard your system is a joke and you don't have the arms in frigging place to monitor all the accounts on your ladder nor should you.
That is all besides the point. The system being bad has no bearing on Major's actions, which Blizzard has confirmed. You can find more details here:
I can just imagine Major going through this in front of his screen, "Ugh... I feel so shitty .. I'm going to queue up again! I must, even though there is no benefit to me and my laddering affects other people who are trying to qualify in this tour!"
Then, as soon as the countdown starts, he can't hold it anymore, and he stumbles his way to the bathroom, is sick, feels like shit, takes medicine, looks forlornly at his bed... "no, wey, you cannot give up, you have pointless ladder games to do."
So he forces himself to sit down at his computer once more, "ok... *burp* I'll be ok this time..."
And then this repeats over and over (by his own admission)? Rofl. Let me see that doctor's note.
The people defending Major are doing the equivalent of accepting the "my dog ate my homework" excuse. Can't be proven, can't be disproven. You are also accepting that Major knew he was too sick to play, and kept queuing anyway, in ladder games that had the potential to affect qualifiers. He ignored his condition and ended up giving two easy wins to his opponent, who just so happens to be his teammate, and doesn't think there is any sort of problem with this. Riiiiiight. If this is all true, then Major must be intellectually handicapped. If it's not true, then he is a rule-breaking liar and a cheat.
so if my internet dropped after finding a game im a cheater too? shit happens theres about 100000 stuff it can happen after u find a game. what if i had a important phone call that i had to take and was gonna lsat long? im still a cheater? it just happened to be i needed to go to the bathroom so use your brain before commenting
Internet dropping, there would be a record of it, no? Player disconnected?
F10 + P, "Sorry I gotta take this call, get the door, take a shit, make an excuse about how my dog ate my homework, write this doctor's note, and take my medicine, please wait." If the other person leaves, you get the points, ezmoney.
Oh for f sake. Reading the rest of this thread is a complete eye sore. You do realize there are other ways of disconnecting right? You don't need hacks to shake your head at that one. I knew people who used to unplug their pcs or d/c their internet/modems as they were about to lose games. Hence d/c. The fact you're using the ladder creates all kinds of fucking problems. Remember TSL guys and how bad it was to admin that kind of shit. In this situation I can only shake my head and it's funny because I haven't heard of many scenarios like this in quite a while.
Blizzard your system is a joke and you don't have the arms in frigging place to monitor all the accounts on your ladder nor should you.
That is all besides the point. The system being bad has no bearing on Major's actions, which Blizzard has confirmed. You can find more details here:
I can just imagine Major going through this in front of his screen, "Ugh... I feel so shitty .. I'm going to queue up again! I must, even though there is no benefit to me and my laddering affects other people who are trying to qualify in this tour!"
Then, as soon as the countdown starts, he can't hold it anymore, and he stumbles his way to the bathroom, is sick, feels like shit, takes medicine, looks forlornly at his bed... "no, wey, you cannot give up, you have pointless ladder games to do."
So he forces himself to sit down at his computer once more, "ok... *burp* I'll be ok this time..."
And then this repeats over and over (by his own admission)? Rofl. Let me see that doctor's note.
The people defending Major are doing the equivalent of accepting the "my dog ate my homework" excuse. Can't be proven, can't be disproven. You are also accepting that Major knew he was too sick to play, and kept queuing anyway, in ladder games that had the potential to affect qualifiers. He ignored his condition and ended up giving two easy wins to his opponent, who just so happens to be his teammate, and doesn't think there is any sort of problem with this. Riiiiiight. If this is all true, then Major must be intellectually handicapped. If it's not true, then he is a rule-breaking liar and a cheat.
so if my internet dropped after finding a game im a cheater too? shit happens theres about 100000 stuff it can happen after u find a game. what if i had a important phone call that i had to take and was gonna lsat long? im still a cheater? it just happened to be i needed to go to the bathroom so use your brain before commenting
Internet dropping, there would be a record of it, no? Player disconnected?
F10 + P, "Sorry I gotta take this call, get the door, take a shit, make an excuse about how my dog ate my homework, write this doctor's note, and take my medicine, please wait." If the other person leaves, you get the points, ezmoney.
Oh for f sake. Reading the rest of this thread is a complete eye sore. You do realize there are other ways of disconnecting right? You don't need hacks to shake your head at that one. I knew people who used to unplug their pcs or d/c their internet/modems as they were about to lose games. Hence d/c. The fact you're using the ladder creates all kinds of fucking problems. Remember TSL guys and how bad it was to admin that kind of shit. In this situation I can only shake my head and it's funny because I haven't heard of many scenarios like this in quite a while.
Blizzard your system is a joke and you don't have the arms in frigging place to monitor all the accounts on your ladder nor should you.
That is all besides the point. The system being bad has no bearing on Major's actions, which Blizzard has confirmed. You can find more details here:
lol it is like you are earning money for the dq of Major, so bad i cant comment on your behavior because I would be banned from here.
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From the get-go, his excuses seemed suspicious. Throughout this thread I explained the reasons for my misgivings. I've remained civil. What's so wrong about my behavior? Are you implying that somehow my posting warrants a ban, whereas Major's actions are a-okay? Lol. I doubt you will be banned for disagreeing with me, that's not how it works around here.
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