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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
Get hyped for King Sejong Station, Overgrowth and Frost!!!
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51481 Posts
But nice, SPL restarting! :D | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
Maybe Kespa wants to really standardize the map pool though. Make it a bit more like BW where the same maps are used for a long time | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51481 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany15928 Posts
I'd die to have this mappool on ladder. | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On March 30 2016 18:02 Charoisaur wrote: YES YES YYYEEEEEEEEESSSSSS. I love proleague. get fucked DK and his "unique" maps To be fair SPL did more unique maps than Blizzard. Next round, FS, Bifrost in ! :p I just thought...... Imagine. IMAGINE Bifrost with flying tanks. | ||
Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
RIP Bbyong | ||
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Elentos
55511 Posts
At the same time, I'm a bit sad they didn't make new maps that are similar to them, just because we've already had months of exposure to those maps in the past. I wonder if this is based on KeSPA's own opinion of the ladder maps, or if the pro players went ahead and said "Please don't make us play on these." | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On March 30 2016 18:04 Inflicted wrote: https://twitter.com/kenzi131/status/715102355931287552 RIP Bbyong What ? BByong leaves ? | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On March 30 2016 18:04 Inflicted wrote: https://twitter.com/kenzi131/status/715102355931287552 RIP Bbyong Seriously, what is going on? Not sure if I should add that to the OP? I think we will have an extra thread of roster changes. | ||
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Estraizher
289 Posts
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Elentos
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Maybe the "health issues" that prevented him from attending his GSL group got worse. CJ is now down to 5 players, pretty much done for this year. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15928 Posts
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Makro
France16890 Posts
On March 30 2016 18:07 Elentos wrote: Maybe the "health issues" that prevented him from attending his GSL group got worse. damn that's really sad for him | ||
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
Probably still on CJ but taken off the roster | ||
TheOneAboveU
Germany3367 Posts
 Sad that Bbyong is out, CJ is in a really bad position, I had hoped they could at least get Patience into their roster. Glad round 2 is starting again so soon! | ||
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starslayer
United States696 Posts
didnt play bw but there is a reason you still see ppl playing on maps like fighting spirit still cause you get good games. lol just thought of flying tanks on kss and overgrowth XD cant wait for that and what other crazy stuff ppl are going to do oh man and mass blink strats geez. gg gl | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On March 30 2016 18:10 Arceus wrote: King Sejong & Frost are welcome but Overgrowth lol Without swarmhosts and turtle mech, Overgrowth could be epic! | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
On March 30 2016 18:07 Elentos wrote: Maybe the "health issues" that prevented him from attending his GSL group got worse. CJ is now down to 5 players, pretty much done for this year. remember when CJ used to be good | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15928 Posts
On March 30 2016 18:09 starslayer wrote: omg wow these maps are like the best maps ever made this cant be real right? frost is by far my favorite map would love to get that map back. Maybe blizzard will see that ppl would rather have standard solid maps this crazy ones. yeah if people really show they love the proleague mappool this could change blizzard stance on maps. If it's in their interest to please the community... | ||
Olli
Austria24417 Posts
Players, not maps, should dictate the game. | ||
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heaveshade
China330 Posts
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Jer99
Canada8157 Posts
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Elentos
55511 Posts
On March 30 2016 18:11 Inflicted wrote: So NaTuRal joined MVP roster. Is there no limit of 8 now or did Choya take himself off? Choya took himself off. | ||
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On March 30 2016 18:12 Olli wrote: Good. I'm fed up with Blizzard and mapmakers trying to force "variety" on players. This is a new game, how are players supposed to figure out and refine how it works if they're constantly one-upped by awful maps? Players, not maps, should dictate the game. Its not the map makers fault that Blizzard uses weird old experimental maps the map makers themselves wouldn't add to ladder | ||
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TheOneAboveU
Germany3367 Posts
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Elentos
55511 Posts
On March 30 2016 18:14 Inflicted wrote: Rosters: + Show Spoiler + https://twitter.com/official_KeSPA/status/715104667970052097 https://twitter.com/official_KeSPA/status/715104583429656577 CJ's roster is unacceptably small. They desperately need new people. With this roster they couldn't even play in the year-end playoffs if they managed to qualify (which they probably won't without Bbyong). On March 30 2016 18:20 TheOneAboveU wrote: Out: Choya; In: Pet. Kenzi's tweet mentions neither o.OThat's odd, the KeSPA tweets don't have Natural on MVP's roster - they already have 8 players, so even without Choya their roster is full. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
The fact that they're using old maps instead of creating new ones, or even adapting the old maps to LotV, is saddening and speaks volumes about the state of the game right now. On March 30 2016 18:21 Elentos wrote: CJ's roster is unacceptably small. They desperately need new people. With this roster they couldn't even play in the year-end playoffs if they managed to qualify (which they probably won't without Bbyong). Out: Choya; In: Pet. Kenzi's tweet mentions neither o.O Looks to me like CJ is slowly but surely saying goodbye to SC2 and will focus on other eSports, sadly | ||
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TheOneAboveU
Germany3367 Posts
On March 30 2016 18:21 Elentos wrote: CJ's roster is unacceptably small. They desperately need new people. With this roster they couldn't even play in the year-end playoffs if they managed to qualify (which they probably won't without Bbyong). Out: Choya; In: Pet. Kenzi's tweet mentions neither o.O Yeah I was confused for a second, since Kenzi tweeted about Natural joining the roster, but he wasn't in the list. Everything cleared up, thanks! | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
Frost is always welcome. | ||
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redloser
Korea (South)1721 Posts
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JonnySC2
Germany119 Posts
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
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Elentos
55511 Posts
On March 30 2016 18:31 Ej_ wrote: Overgrowth going to be a mess in LotV with no real way to take a 5th. Frost is always welcome. Eh, even in LotV, most PL games end before the players have to take a 5th. And I think it'll be more doable to take a 5th on Overgrowth in LotV, you just can't ever take the gold. On March 30 2016 18:35 Taf the Ghost wrote: Huh, it's March 31st over there. I thought for sure this was an April Fool's joke. It's still the 30th in Korea. | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
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GTR
51441 Posts
On March 30 2016 18:37 lichter wrote: shoulda put fighting spirit back in nah should've put in arkanoid and maze. in all seriousness while it's cool kss/overgrowth/frost are in, disappointed that lerilak and orbital shipyard remain despite not being in the ladder pool. | ||
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Elentos
55511 Posts
On March 30 2016 18:37 lichter wrote: shoulda put fighting spirit back in Time to bring back Maze. On March 30 2016 18:41 GTR wrote: nah should've put in arkanoid and maze. in all seriousness while it's cool kss/overgrowth/frost are in, disappointed that lerilak and orbital shipyard remain despite not being in the ladder pool. Those were the more acceptable maps from round 1. I can imagine some teams complaining about Ulrena and Prion Terraces. I mean, I guess they could have replaced those, too, but at least they're not as completely weird. Although I'd have been fine with Frozen Temple in Proleague. Just because. | ||
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KatatoniK
United Kingdom978 Posts
Bbyong not listed for CJ worries me given the reasons he pulled out of GSL. As for Life being removed from Afreeca's SPL roster, well, that's not a good sign at all. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On March 30 2016 18:41 GTR wrote: nah should've put in arkanoid and maze. in all seriousness while it's cool kss/overgrowth/frost are in, disappointed that lerilak and orbital shipyard remain despite not being in the ladder pool. Yeah, that's indeed a bit sad. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
Super excited to see Frost return from the grave, that map could've stuck around a little bit longer. KSS is god-tier as well. Overgrowth I'm not too stoked about. Would've liked to see Whirlwind return from map Valhalla. GOAT map. == oh and CJ is screwed. herO and ByuL better start playing like it's 2015 again. | ||
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rotta
5586 Posts
Please be back soon Bbyong! | ||
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Elentos
55511 Posts
On March 30 2016 18:44 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: HAHAHA WOW Super excited to see Frost return from the grave, that map could've stuck around a little bit longer. KSS is god-tier as well. Overgrowth I'm not too stoked about. Would've liked to see Whirlwind return from map Valhalla. GOAT map. I'm glad Whirlwind isn't coming back. We just got rid of one huge ugly green map in Ruins of Seras, I appreciate it's not being replaced in kind. Maybe next round or something. Although I'd rather they bring back Cactus Valley. | ||
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
Still hoping for the comeback of that map that had a sweet looking beach. | ||
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Elentos
55511 Posts
On March 30 2016 18:50 Salteador Neo wrote: They having the balls to basically say "fuck these new maps are too bad to be played" is great lol Still hoping for the comeback of that map that had a sweet looking beach. Gwangalli Beach?It's like Ulrena, but with a sweet beach! It only has 12 bases though. | ||
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CynicalDeath
Italy3369 Posts
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Elentos
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seemsgood
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TedBurtle
Belarus201 Posts
P.S. What is GSL's map pool? they will play lader, or lader S1? | ||
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
On March 30 2016 18:51 Elentos wrote: Gwangalli Beach?It's like Ulrena, but with a sweet beach! It only has 12 bases though. Ok in retrospect maybe it's not too well balanced, but it was so much fun to watch the twitch chat go nuts about the beach lol. It's all about that charisma. KSS being back is indeed awesome. | ||
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Elentos
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On March 30 2016 18:59 seemsgood wrote: What happend to BByong ? :O Well, last time we heard about him, it was announced he had pulled out of GSL because of "health issues". Maybe those got worse? On March 30 2016 18:59 TedBurtle wrote: give us this pool on lader, so i can stop proxy robo all day P.S. What is GSL's map pool? they will play lader, or lader S1? GSL map pool this season: Orbital Shipyard Dusk Towers Lerilak Crest Ruins of Seras Prion Terraces Sky Shield Rak'Shir Next season is completely unknown atm, they might go wild like PL, they might even keep it the same. | ||
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rotta
5586 Posts
FREE LIFE | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
CJ roster is super sad though. | ||
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NinjaToss
Austria1383 Posts
KSS hype!!! Also CJ's roster looks really bad, they should have hire HerO or something, they also have the newbie player Rookie and Nightmare but I guess they aren't good enough yet. Also Choya out of the roster is bad for my FPL Anti team Stork just basically said "fuck you, I'm actually in Code S" to his team and list himself in again | ||
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Elentos
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On March 30 2016 19:11 Phredxor wrote: Love Frost and KSS, gonna be cool. CJ roster is super sad though. Seriously. If herO and ByuL weren't world class players, that CJ roster would be as sad as Prime's roster at the end of last season. | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On March 30 2016 18:37 lichter wrote: shoulda put fighting spirit back in YES ! | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15928 Posts
On March 30 2016 18:31 Ej_ wrote: Overgrowth going to be a mess in LotV with no real way to take a 5th. Frost is always welcome. balance concerns aren't valid when we have tournaments played on prion terraces and korhal cornage knockout. whatever the balance those old maps will be in LotV, it will be better than the current mappool. | ||
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WonnaPlay
Netherlands912 Posts
Aw yeah! I will never forget that match | ||
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SidianTheBard
United States2474 Posts
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YSMS
China35 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
Interesting to see Frost, Overgrowth and KSS again. Some really good maps, but I'm not certain they will work that greatly with LotV, but we will see. | ||
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Durnuu
13320 Posts
I'm glad SPL is doing its own thing with the map pool, a bit sad about Orbital staying. Also sad that they didn't add a map or two of their own | ||
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Elentos
55511 Posts
On March 30 2016 19:49 Durnuu wrote: CJ is so screwed, only 5 players :/ I'm glad SPL is doing its own thing with the map pool, a bit sad about Orbital staying. Also sad that they didn't add a map or two of their own Hey, technically Sejong is their own map | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
If I were a mapmaker, I would now go break all the windows on Kespa headquarters by throwing chicken wings at them. Such a disgrace. | ||
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sCuMBaG
United Kingdom1144 Posts
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
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Jer99
Canada8157 Posts
On March 30 2016 20:44 Olli wrote: Next round: CLOUD KINGDOM Round after, steppes of war? | ||
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WGT-Baal
France3358 Posts
Sad for Bbyong. I hope he can come back. CJ needs a player! Get Sora back or something. | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
Scrap station. The winning strategy is rush Vipers and then pull all enemy workers to the island. | ||
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Gwavajuice
France1810 Posts
What is really disappointing though is they didn't put any effort into creating new maps, as they always did until now. That's the real issue imho. | ||
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Gwavajuice
France1810 Posts
On March 30 2016 18:51 Elentos wrote: Gwangalli Beach?It's like Ulrena, but with a sweet beach! It only has 12 bases though. and it's one of the worst map ever made too | ||
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Elentos
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On March 30 2016 21:01 Gwavajuice wrote: People really only see what they want to see, the fact SPL uses this map pool is not a middle finger toward Blizzard, SPL always had silly/fun maps because it makes the league much more interesting than if they only picked balanced and standard maps. But that's what they did. The maps they added are some of the most standard and balanced we ever had in HotS. There is nothing silly about them. Meanwhile, the maps on ladder are meant to be fun and creative (silly). And here we are, 1 of 7 ladder maps is going to be used in Proleague, and it's the macro map Dusk Towers. | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On March 30 2016 21:01 Gwavajuice wrote: People really only see what they want to see, the fact SPL uses this map pool is not a middle finger toward Blizzard, SPL always had silly/fun maps because it makes the league much more interesting than if they only picked balanced and standard maps. What is really disappointing though is they didn't put any effort into creating new maps, as they always did until now. That's the real issue imho. They're picking standards maps instead of the silly blizzard maps? Don't you see how this is the exact opposite of what you're describing ? | ||
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Elentos
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On March 30 2016 20:26 opisska wrote: If I were a mapmaker, I would now go break all the windows on Kespa headquarters by throwing chicken wings at them. Such a disgrace. What the fuck? | ||
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SuperHofmann
Italy1741 Posts
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Clonester
Germany2808 Posts
I hope it is only for this season, I cant see these maps doing well in LotV and I am also still fed up with Overg. At least KSS is historically a Kespa map. | ||
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Alluton
Finland113 Posts
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Alluton
Finland113 Posts
On March 30 2016 20:26 opisska wrote: If I were a mapmaker, I would now go break all the windows on Kespa headquarters by throwing chicken wings at them. Such a disgrace. You would go break all the windows in Kespa headquarters because of why? Because your map is in ladder and they don't use it because it is bad? Or because it isn't in the ladder and Kespa should somehow have noticed it? | ||
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KappaKingPrime
United States468 Posts
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On March 30 2016 21:52 Alluton wrote: You would go break all the windows in Kespa headquarters because of why? Because your map is in ladder and they don't use it because it is bad? Or because it isn't in the ladder and Kespa should somehow have noticed it? Because Kespa is effectively saying "the new maps are bad, the only solution we see is to use old maps that aren't even made for this game" ostensibly ignoring the vast body of other existing work of mapmakers. Hell they could have just opened the map forum on TL and polished some maps from there if they wanted to be lazy. It's really a big middle finger to the last remaining few people that still do quality maps for free. | ||
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redloser
Korea (South)1721 Posts
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zakadar
Germany409 Posts
the new maps are not to weird: frozen temple, invader and ruins of of endion are pretty standart i understand not to pick the Korhal map but these | ||
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Xenotolerance
United States464 Posts
On March 30 2016 22:00 opisska wrote: Because Kespa is effectively saying "the new maps are bad, the only solution we see is to use old maps that aren't even made for this game" ostensibly ignoring the vast body of other existing work of mapmakers. Hell they could have just opened the map forum on TL and polished some maps from there if they wanted to be lazy. It's really a big middle finger to the last remaining few people that still do quality maps for free. Yeah I mean I'm super cheesed that they didn't pull Cassiopeia instead of KSS, what were they thinking </s> Personally I'm beyond hyped, partially because of the message this sends, and part because I fucking love those three maps | ||
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DSK
England1110 Posts
I hope Bbyong is alleviated from whatever is affecting him at the moment. | ||
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wjat
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[PkF] Wire
France24193 Posts
all all-time fan favorites, what a good day | ||
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H0i
Netherlands484 Posts
On March 30 2016 20:59 opisska wrote: Scrap station. The winning strategy is rush Vipers and then pull all enemy workers to the island. Inferno pools! | ||
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Elentos
55511 Posts
On March 30 2016 22:00 opisska wrote: Because Kespa is effectively saying "the new maps are bad, the only solution we see is to use old maps that aren't even made for this game" ostensibly ignoring the vast body of other existing work of mapmakers. Hell they could have just opened the map forum on TL and polished some maps from there if they wanted to be lazy. It's really a big middle finger to the last remaining few people that still do quality maps for free. And so your response would be to bombard their HQ with chicken wings until the windows break? Do you realise how completely insane that sounds? Not to mention, what a waste of food that would be. | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On March 30 2016 23:11 Elentos wrote: And so your response would be to bombard their HQ with chicken wings until the windows break? Do you realise how completely insane that sounds? Not to mention, what a waste of food that would be. I guess I still haven't increased my posting frequency enough to get you guys to know me. Otherwise I can't explain why anyone would presume I am sane and such faulty prejudice leads naturally to misunderstanding. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On March 30 2016 23:16 boxerfred wrote: I am seriously wondering why Blizzard is even unable to deliver decent maps. Back in the days Blizzard did not suck. But games had LAN back then. Seriously, at this rate I don't even want to see the new wc3 maps they are making... | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On March 30 2016 23:16 boxerfred wrote: I am seriously wondering why Blizzard is even unable to deliver decent maps. Back in the days Blizzard did not suck. But games had LAN back then. Did we just establish the relationship between LAN technology and good maps? I think that's a huge step forward for Science. | ||
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NinjaToss
Austria1383 Posts
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ejozl
Denmark3371 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On March 30 2016 20:44 Olli wrote: Next round: CLOUD KINGDOM ...wait I thought we liked these maps? | ||
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RegnumIrae
2 Posts
Fine whine-thread though. | ||
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Elentos
55511 Posts
On March 31 2016 01:34 RegnumIrae wrote: That this is April fools is pretty obvious. Fine whine-thread though. Except it's not April 1st anywhere in the world and KeSPA isn't known for their jokes. | ||
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Clonester
Germany2808 Posts
On March 31 2016 00:08 Musicus wrote: Seriously, at this rate I don't even want to see the new wc3 maps they are making... Dont worry, I see "thehiveworkshop" being responsible for new maps | ||
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vult
United States9400 Posts
On March 31 2016 01:41 Elentos wrote: Except it's not April 1st anywhere in the world and KeSPA isn't known for their jokes. That's the argument I don't get lol. A professional organization doesn't release official documentation regarding scheduling knowing it's not true, and with it not being April Fools Day at all in the world yet, it's not "pretty obvious". Love the map pool though, would have preferreda more classic map over overgrowth, like belshir vestige or maybe like vaani research station. Something 2p and semi-standard. | ||
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ClysmiC
United States2192 Posts
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zakadar
Germany409 Posts
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Mizenhauer
United States1851 Posts
On March 31 2016 02:33 zakadar wrote: am I the only one who want the new ladder maps instead the old Yes. I've played one day on ladder and that's enough for me to know I don't want the quality players I gladly wake up at 5 a.m. to watch play limited in the strategies they chose by poorly designed maps. | ||
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Elentos
55511 Posts
On March 31 2016 02:33 zakadar wrote: am I the only one who want the new ladder maps instead the old You're definitely the only person I've seen claim that Invader and Ruins of Endion are standard maps. | ||
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Pino
1032 Posts
Best map ever | ||
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billynasty
United States260 Posts
On March 30 2016 20:26 opisska wrote: Because Kespa is effectively saying "the new maps are bad, the only solution we see is to use old maps that aren't even made for this game" ostensibly ignoring the vast body of other existing work of mapmakers. Hell they could have just opened the map forum on TL and polished some maps from there if they wanted to be lazy. It's really a big middle finger to the last remaining few people that still do quality maps for free. Blizzard did essentially the same thing by picking Korhal Carnage. That map was made 2 years ago & wasnt made for LOTV at all. I for one hope what Kespa did is for real because something needs to be done imo. | ||
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Crocolisk Dundee
870 Posts
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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Roadog
Canada1670 Posts
On March 31 2016 01:41 Elentos wrote: Except it's not April 1st anywhere in the world and KeSPA isn't known for their jokes. I'm hyped, if just to see how the pros have broken it. Even better if somehow, magically, they were all at least as balanced as they were in HotS. But that's not going to happen, right? | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On March 30 2016 23:16 boxerfred wrote: I am seriously wondering why Blizzard is even unable to deliver decent maps. Back in the days Blizzard did not suck. But games had LAN back then. Rofl. That was weak. You can do better | ||
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KT_Elwood
Germany927 Posts
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