EPT2016 WCS Challenger format announced. - Page 2
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Ronski
Finland266 Posts
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NonY
8751 Posts
On February 02 2016 01:20 ejozl wrote: Uhh sounds cool, maybe this was why David mentioned anti hack was a huge focus for them. I think this can work, but they pretty much have to remove Bonus Pool in GM right? or else the top dogs will be guys with just about spent Bonus Pool? I'm not GM so if someone can state something on this. Now I really wish you could spectate people online btw! I think the time period is too short for the "only play when you have bonus pool" strategy of topping the ladder to work. I think the strat also works better when there's less ladder activity in general, but this competition should be creating a ton of ladder activity. I'm pretty sure anyone who only plays enough to use their bonus pool, even if they have an extremely high win percentage, will get passed by people playing more games because of inflation. The inflation happens as more and more people play this season, creating more and more ladder points at the lower ranks, which filter up to the higher ranks. | ||
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FireCake
151 Posts
But... The matchmaking has been broken for months and is still broken, you can abuse the system by saving your bonus pool and use it just before the end of the qualifier. Not to mention that people can trade win very easily, it has been done many time in the past when koreans players had to play hundreds games to participate in the WCS. It would be a lot better to use MMR to rank people and not points. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On February 02 2016 01:25 Musicus wrote: It does and that's correct. http://wcs.battle.net/sc2/en/articles/2016-wcs-details-and-requirements Ok I had to do a bunch of searching to find the right page on liquipedia but this explains it a bit better: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2016_WCS_Winter_Circuit_Championship This is in place of the " Regional Challengers " 2 slots for Europe, Africa and the Middle East, 2 slots for North America (USA and Canada) At least I think that's how it works. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On February 02 2016 01:27 Dodgin wrote: I get your point but I don't think expecting pro players to play a lot creates an unhealthy lifestyle, if they can't balance it and they play 12 hrs straight its their fault. Well when someone who's not affected by a disease is having an unhealthy lifestyle is almost always his own fault, but you can encourage or discourage it with incentives. I guess that considering the lifestyle of most progamers that won't change much though. On February 02 2016 01:32 FireCake wrote: It is a good idea because almost no pro players are playing on ladder right now (the matchmaking makes the ladder useless). We might have some funny ladder games and stream might be more interesting for viewers. But... The matchmaking has been broken for months and is still broken, you can abuse the system by saving your bonus pool and use it just before the end of the qualifier. Not to mention that people can trade win very easily, it has been done many time in the past when koreans players had to play hundreds games to participate in the WCS. It would be a lot better to use MMR to rank people and not points. Yes, that's very true. MMR should be used to rank people, it's a much better indication than points. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23580 Posts
On February 02 2016 01:32 Dodgin wrote: Ok I had to do a bunch of searching to find the right page on liquipedia but this explains it a bit better: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2016_WCS_Winter_Circuit_Championship This is in place of the " Regional Challengers " 2 slots for Europe, Africa and the Middle East, 2 slots for North America (USA and Canada) At least I think that's how it works. Exactly! | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On February 02 2016 01:29 ZAiNs wrote: Actually the best way to be at the top of the ladder is to just use up your bonus pool and not play extra matches, when at the top you lose a lot of points for a loss to almost anyone and don't gain that many points. I thought GM players can't accumulate bonus pool? | ||
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Musicus
Germany23580 Posts
On February 02 2016 01:32 FireCake wrote: It is a good idea because almost no pro players are playing on ladder right now (the matchmaking makes the ladder useless). We might have some funny ladder games and stream might be more interesting for viewers. But... The matchmaking has been broken for months and is still broken, you can abuse the system by saving your bonus pool and use it just before the end of the qualifier. Not to mention that people can trade win very easily, it has been done many time in the past when koreans players had to play hundreds games to participate in the WCS. It would be a lot better to use MMR to rank people and not points. I still love the fact that they are putting this system in place. Sure there are problems with it for now, but since they are aiming at a ladder revamp anyway, it will be really cool in the long run I think. Win traders usually get caught in ladder qualifers like in Shoutcraft or Destiny I and get disqualified. | ||
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Nerchio
Poland2633 Posts
On February 02 2016 01:34 OtherWorld wrote: I thought GM players can't accumulate bonus pool? It's not perfect but still more meaningful matches is better | ||
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Dav1oN
Ukraine3164 Posts
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Big-t
Austria1351 Posts
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Ppjack
Belgium489 Posts
As a side effect I think it will help streamers get more viewers, thus more income. The last hours will be crazy exciting. Seeing how the ladder works, MMR should be ultimately the decisive factor, not ladder points. But it is a good start. | ||
Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
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Clonester
Germany2808 Posts
On February 02 2016 01:37 Nerchio wrote: It's not perfect but still more meaningful matches is better As you have already qualified, can you even play in this? | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On February 02 2016 01:53 Clonester wrote: As you have already qualified, can you even play in this? It says that he can, and if he takes top two, the player under him will get the invite. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23580 Posts
On February 02 2016 01:53 Clonester wrote: As you have already qualified, can you even play in this? Players already qualified for the WCS Circuit Winter Championship at Intel Extreme Masters Katowice will be eligible to play in their Regional Challenger, and the next eligible player will be invited should they secure a first or second place. Not sure why SGTK did not put the important parts in the OP  . | ||
The_Templar
your Country52798 Posts
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RHoudini
Belgium3632 Posts
On February 02 2016 01:41 Inflicted wrote: I count only $9800 for the prizepool, ESL pocketing that last $200 wow Free beer for the crew. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23580 Posts
I'm okay with that. | ||
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