EPTAs an aside, the bloke that ragged on Hewitt and to a lesser extent Roddick earlier in the thread needs to reassess their places in modern tennis history. Hewitt was No.1 for 80 weeks, 75 consecutive, and the youngest to ever achieve it. He defeated Sampras in that 2001 Us Open final. Roddick won a US Open and made 3 Wimbledon finals. Yes, their achievements were eclipsed by Federer/Nadal/Djokovic but that's not to say what they did achieve was insignificant, especially in regard to Hewitt. Hewitt retired a week or so ago and the accolades bestowed upon him by those 3 colossi of the sport is indicative of his influence. “He did things that no other player's ever achieved,” said Roger Federer. http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/news/federer-hewitt-australian-2016-preview
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On February 14 2016 08:59 Seeker wrote: Starting from this page on, I will be moderating more harshly toward any mention of MarineKing's name. This thread has NOTHING to do with MarineKing. Do not talk about MarineKing even if you are defending him. Just don't do it. Please no match-fixing accusations on MarineKing or any other player if it has not officially been confirmed. This goes for other players too. -The_Templar | ||
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Maestro85
Australia30 Posts
As an aside, the bloke that ragged on Hewitt and to a lesser extent Roddick earlier in the thread needs to reassess their places in modern tennis history. Hewitt was No.1 for 80 weeks, 75 consecutive, and the youngest to ever achieve it. He defeated Sampras in that 2001 Us Open final. Roddick won a US Open and made 3 Wimbledon finals. Yes, their achievements were eclipsed by Federer/Nadal/Djokovic but that's not to say what they did achieve was insignificant, especially in regard to Hewitt. Hewitt retired a week or so ago and the accolades bestowed upon him by those 3 colossi of the sport is indicative of his influence. “He did things that no other player's ever achieved,” said Roger Federer. http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/news/federer-hewitt-australian-2016-preview | ||
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palexhur
Colombia730 Posts
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Stolker
United States96 Posts
On February 01 2016 11:53 NyxNax wrote: How about Byul? I think hes a good guy and would be awesome to see him win a GSL or premier event. He's come so close.. As much as Byul and soo are good they are not Life. The reason I started watching sc2 was Life's play. Man this blows | ||
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MrMotionPicture
United States4327 Posts
Glad I picked him on my anti-team... | ||
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OkStyX
Canada1199 Posts
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OkStyX
Canada1199 Posts
On February 01 2016 14:21 Stolker wrote: As much as Byul and soo are good they are not Life. The reason I started watching sc2 was Life's play. Man this blows Right? I loved life's play and how smooth and devastating a player he is/was. | ||
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negativedge
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Advantageous
China1350 Posts
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Shortizz
Singapore129 Posts
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ErectedZenith
325 Posts
On February 01 2016 14:43 Shortizz wrote: Should ban all the proven match fixers from all related activities. Tournament, streaming etc etc, they should be banned for life. Because of people's statement like ''give them a chance'', supporting cheater's afreeca streams, this problem will never go away. Ban them for ''life'' From streaming too? Come on, that's a bit harsh don't you think? | ||
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Abacus88
10 Posts
I mean over here in the West the average Joe didn't know. Did the casters know? Did other pros know? How did the police find out? Repeated rumors are a good thing to investigate, not ignore. I wonder how many other players have rumors about them that maybe nobody talks about b/c they don't want to rock the boat. I understand the sentiment but that sort of action is really dangerous. Once someone is accused, their reputation can never be fully recovered. Much better to happen this way where an investigation has clearly taken place before making the charge. Even if he's found innocent by Korean police and cleared by Kespa, he's already taken a permanent blow. If he's found innocent of this, people will always watch his games as though they're suspicious. | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On February 01 2016 14:51 ErectedZenith wrote: From streaming too? Come on, that's a bit harsh don't you think? It's harsh to prevent them from profiting from a game they tried to destroy? | ||
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TaKeTV
Germany1200 Posts
On February 01 2016 14:43 Shortizz wrote: Should ban all the proven match fixers from all related activities. Tournament, streaming etc etc, they should be banned for life. Because of people's statement like ''give them a chance'', supporting cheater's afreeca streams, this problem will never go away. Ban them for ''life'' Death sentence doesn't stop people from killing. Same applies here. I hate it as well but it won't make it go away. | ||
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ErectedZenith
325 Posts
On February 01 2016 14:54 ZAiNs wrote: It's harsh to prevent them from profiting from a game they tried to destroy? I mean its not like Life just set Blizzard's HQ on fire or anything. He didn't destroy the game, he just lost a few games there and there. | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On February 01 2016 14:57 ErectedZenith wrote: I mean its not like Life just set Blizzard's HQ on fire or anything. He didn't destroy the game, he just lost a few games there and there. I think you can actually make a very convincing argument that arson would have done much less damage economically and socially to the promotion, sponsorship confidence, and integrity of the game when compared to a player in Life's position match-fixing. | ||
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neutralrobot
Australia1025 Posts
On February 01 2016 14:27 Shakattak wrote: Right? I loved life's play and how smooth and devastating a player he is/was. Yeah, I mean, he's in my sig for a reason.... For me, there's no zerg player who could really take his place. When he was "on", he was such a joy to watch. I guess it looks like those days are over now, barring some unexpected miracle. It's hard to know what to even compare it to, except the BW matchfixing scandal. Or maybe more personally, if Jaedong had been arrested for matchfixing in his prime in BW. | ||
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eScaper-tsunami
Canada313 Posts
On February 01 2016 14:54 TaKeTV wrote: Death sentence doesn't stop people from killing. Same applies here. I hate it as well but it won't make it go away. Death sentence doesn't stop (all) people from killing. Anyway it's sad that great players such as Life has participated in match fixing but if anything at least we know the prosecutors are taking the matter very seriously. IMO it's better to know the system is doing their best and arresting match fixer than blindly believing that match-fixing doesn't exist and do nothing about it. | ||
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Baarn
United States2702 Posts
On February 01 2016 15:16 Caihead wrote: I think you can actually make a very convincing argument that arson would have done much less damage economically and socially to the promotion, sponsorship confidence, and integrity of the game when compared to a player in Life's position match-fixing. No you can't. One of the matches in question by the witch hunters is one against solar. Like maybe solar legit won it? I mean is he so awful he has no chance against a player like life, ever? Not everyone plays their absolute best all the time but I guess koreans think if your such a badass like life then you have to win every match against what they view as a lesser opponent. Can never be an underdog according to these people. Then again he could be guilty and they are right. Still one proleague match is nothing close to arson. Nobody will even care after lotv is released and interest in the game picks back up if life is convicted or not. Look at how much saviour cheated and how broodwar had more money than sc2 when it started involved. Give me a break. Oh and btw kespa still survived even years after gomtv became a nonfactor in broadcasting starcraft coverage for the second game. Just like how they survived after the first game. Starcraft 3 comes kespa will probably still be there. | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
On February 01 2016 16:10 eScaper-tsunami wrote: Death sentence doesn't stop (all) people from killing. Anyway it's sad that great players such as Life has participated in match fixing but if anything at least we know the prosecutors are taking the matter very seriously. IMO it's better to know the system is doing their best and arresting match fixer than blindly believing that match-fixing doesn't exist and do nothing about it. Death sentence does stop the person who killed already from killing more though.  | ||
Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
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