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On February 14 2016 08:59 Seeker wrote:
Starting from this page on, I will be moderating more harshly toward any mention of MarineKing's name. This thread has NOTHING to do with MarineKing. Do not talk about MarineKing even if you are defending him. Just don't do it. Please no match-fixing accusations on MarineKing or any other player if it has not officially been confirmed.


This goes for other players too. -The_Templar
JackONeill
Profile Joined September 2013
861 Posts
February 01 2016 01:55 GMT
#661
So is he just accused, or is it pretty certain from now on that he participated in matchfixing?
NyxNax
Profile Joined March 2014
United States227 Posts
February 01 2016 01:57 GMT
#662
On February 01 2016 10:49 WidowMineHero wrote:
I am shocked, did the KT afreeca line up switch had anything to do with this?


Its reported that it was unrelated and neither team had any clue
Grizvok
Profile Joined August 2014
United States711 Posts
February 01 2016 01:57 GMT
#663
On February 01 2016 10:44 TRaFFiC wrote:
Catz said on stream he spoke to Hydra who heard rumors of this before. They both think he's going down. I have to wonder, while it's wrong to falsely accuse someone, if it's best to suppress these rumors. I mean over here in the West the average Joe didn't know. Did the casters know? Did other pros know? How did the police find out? Repeated rumors are a good thing to investigate, not ignore. I wonder how many other players have rumors about them that maybe nobody talks about b/c they don't want to rock the boat.


Uh yeah they definitely didn't decide to arrest one of if not the highest profile players on some whim.
NyxNax
Profile Joined March 2014
United States227 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-01 02:00:56
February 01 2016 01:58 GMT
#664
On February 01 2016 10:55 JackONeill wrote:
So is he just accused, or is it pretty certain from now on that he participated in matchfixing?


Someone else mentioned there is a 98% conviction rate, one can assume then that they wouldnt arrest him without a slam dunk.

Like someone else pointed out, theres no details as to what the match fixing was. It could be something as simple as a specific timing or as bad as taking a loss. Either way it sounds almost certain money was passed for some sort of manipulation of the game.
Grizvok
Profile Joined August 2014
United States711 Posts
February 01 2016 02:01 GMT
#665
On February 01 2016 10:55 JackONeill wrote:
So is he just accused, or is it pretty certain from now on that he participated in matchfixing?


It depends on your level of intelligence. Are you like the majority of users here it seems and feel the need to keep posting things like "innocent until proven guilty" or some other "this is a misunderstanding" or are you logical and realize there was likely some pretty hard evidence to arrest and charge one of the highest profile players we have.


User was warned for this post
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
February 01 2016 02:01 GMT
#666
On February 01 2016 10:58 NyxNax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 10:55 JackONeill wrote:
So is he just accused, or is it pretty certain from now on that he participated in matchfixing?


Someone else mentioned there is a 98% conviction rate, one can assume then that they wouldnt arrest him without a slam dunk.

Like someone else pointed out, theres no details as to what the match fixing was. It could be something as simple as a specific timing or as bad as taking a loss. Either way it sounds almost certain money was passed for some sort of manipulation of the game.


The announcement specifically says he was arrested for receiving money. You don't say that publicly without being damn sure.
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JackONeill
Profile Joined September 2013
861 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-01 02:09:00
February 01 2016 02:06 GMT
#667
On February 01 2016 11:01 Grizvok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 10:55 JackONeill wrote:
So is he just accused, or is it pretty certain from now on that he participated in matchfixing?


It depends on your level of intelligence. Are you like the majority of users here it seems and feel the need to keep posting things like "innocent until proven guilty" or some other "this is a misunderstanding" or are you logical and realize there was likely some pretty hard evidence to arrest and charge one of the highest profile players we have.



I'm just interested to know if the little fucker did participate in matchfixing, and thus tainted the SC2 esport scene.

If he did, it's kind of outrageous. I mean Yoda and BbongBbong weren't absolutly dominant players, so yeah I could at least understand somehow that they might let themselves recieve money to throw games. But man, Life must have gathered so much cash from his performences, why screw up both his career and his legacy while things were still going nicely?
Nixer
Profile Joined July 2011
2774 Posts
February 01 2016 02:07 GMT
#668
On February 01 2016 11:01 Grizvok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 10:55 JackONeill wrote:
So is he just accused, or is it pretty certain from now on that he participated in matchfixing?


It depends on your level of intelligence. Are you like the majority of users here it seems and feel the need to keep posting things like "innocent until proven guilty" or some other "this is a misunderstanding" or are you logical and realize there was likely some pretty hard evidence to arrest and charge one of the highest profile players we have.

But.. Innocent until proven guilty.
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thePunGun
Profile Blog Joined January 2016
598 Posts
February 01 2016 02:09 GMT
#669
On February 01 2016 11:01 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 10:58 NyxNax wrote:
On February 01 2016 10:55 JackONeill wrote:
So is he just accused, or is it pretty certain from now on that he participated in matchfixing?


Someone else mentioned there is a 98% conviction rate, one can assume then that they wouldnt arrest him without a slam dunk.

Like someone else pointed out, theres no details as to what the match fixing was. It could be something as simple as a specific timing or as bad as taking a loss. Either way it sounds almost certain money was passed for some sort of manipulation of the game.


The announcement specifically says he was arrested for receiving money. You don't say that publicly without being damn sure.


I have a prosecutor in my family (brother) and I can tell you, that you will not get arrested unless the evidence is rock solid.
Just to be clear I'm not american (no redneck laws over here)
"You cannot teach a man anything, you can only help him find it within himself."
Grizvok
Profile Joined August 2014
United States711 Posts
February 01 2016 02:10 GMT
#670
On February 01 2016 11:06 JackONeill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 11:01 Grizvok wrote:
On February 01 2016 10:55 JackONeill wrote:
So is he just accused, or is it pretty certain from now on that he participated in matchfixing?


It depends on your level of intelligence. Are you like the majority of users here it seems and feel the need to keep posting things like "innocent until proven guilty" or some other "this is a misunderstanding" or are you logical and realize there was likely some pretty hard evidence to arrest and charge one of the highest profile players we have.



I'm just interested to know if the little fucker did participate in matchfixing, and thus tainted the SC2 esport scene.

If he did, it's kind of outrageous. I mean Yoda and BbongBbong weren't absolutly dominant players, so yeah I could at least understand somehow that they might let themselves recieve money to throw games. But man, Life must have gathered so much cash from his performences, why screw up both his career and his legacy while things were still going nicely?


Yes, he did.
MaCRo.gg
Profile Joined June 2015
Korea (South)860 Posts
February 01 2016 02:16 GMT
#671
On February 01 2016 06:13 Samba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 05:32 MaCRo.gg wrote:
On February 01 2016 04:52 bduddy wrote:
So does anyone else think that KT - a massive corporation, formerly government-owned - might have been tipped off about the investigation, thus the trade? And perhaps Life's arrest was even held off until it was done? Given how close the big Korean companies are to the government...

Most definitely. KT has been shaky recently, even getting an ex president getting arrested for embezzlement.



In the other thread it was alrdy said, that the trade was initiated by Life himself and that neither KT nor Afreeca knew anything about this.
But anyway, this is just really bad, i fear for a remake of the BW downfall...



KT a top 9 Korean company definitely has some serious ties with the government, especially considering it was privatized not so long ago. Either Life was hoping that Afreeca will let him stream despite KeSPA match fixing policies and demanded the trade or KT has a seer working for them or they knew about the arrest incoming. Lots of circumstantial evidence points to them knowing before hand.
EngrishTeacher
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Canada1109 Posts
February 01 2016 02:16 GMT
#672
On February 01 2016 11:10 Grizvok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 11:06 JackONeill wrote:
On February 01 2016 11:01 Grizvok wrote:
On February 01 2016 10:55 JackONeill wrote:
So is he just accused, or is it pretty certain from now on that he participated in matchfixing?


It depends on your level of intelligence. Are you like the majority of users here it seems and feel the need to keep posting things like "innocent until proven guilty" or some other "this is a misunderstanding" or are you logical and realize there was likely some pretty hard evidence to arrest and charge one of the highest profile players we have.



I'm just interested to know if the little fucker did participate in matchfixing, and thus tainted the SC2 esport scene.

If he did, it's kind of outrageous. I mean Yoda and BbongBbong weren't absolutly dominant players, so yeah I could at least understand somehow that they might let themselves recieve money to throw games. But man, Life must have gathered so much cash from his performences, why screw up both his career and his legacy while things were still going nicely?


Yes, he did.


Life is most likely guilty, I wouldn't make posts advocating his innocence, but I wouldn't go around proclaiming his guilt with such arrogance either.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
February 01 2016 02:18 GMT
#673
On February 01 2016 11:01 Grizvok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 10:55 JackONeill wrote:
So is he just accused, or is it pretty certain from now on that he participated in matchfixing?


It depends on your level of intelligence. Are you like the majority of users here it seems and feel the need to keep posting things like "innocent until proven guilty" or some other "this is a misunderstanding" or are you logical and realize there was likely some pretty hard evidence to arrest and charge one of the highest profile players we have.


"It depends on your level of intelligence"

That is a very dumb statement.
Grizvok
Profile Joined August 2014
United States711 Posts
February 01 2016 02:21 GMT
#674
On February 01 2016 11:18 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 11:01 Grizvok wrote:
On February 01 2016 10:55 JackONeill wrote:
So is he just accused, or is it pretty certain from now on that he participated in matchfixing?


It depends on your level of intelligence. Are you like the majority of users here it seems and feel the need to keep posting things like "innocent until proven guilty" or some other "this is a misunderstanding" or are you logical and realize there was likely some pretty hard evidence to arrest and charge one of the highest profile players we have.


"It depends on your level of intelligence"

That is a very dumb statement.


Very well thought out post. Great content.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 01 2016 02:26 GMT
#675
This was probably what Wolf meant.
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Grizvok
Profile Joined August 2014
United States711 Posts
February 01 2016 02:31 GMT
#676
On February 01 2016 11:16 EngrishTeacher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 11:10 Grizvok wrote:
On February 01 2016 11:06 JackONeill wrote:
On February 01 2016 11:01 Grizvok wrote:
On February 01 2016 10:55 JackONeill wrote:
So is he just accused, or is it pretty certain from now on that he participated in matchfixing?


It depends on your level of intelligence. Are you like the majority of users here it seems and feel the need to keep posting things like "innocent until proven guilty" or some other "this is a misunderstanding" or are you logical and realize there was likely some pretty hard evidence to arrest and charge one of the highest profile players we have.



I'm just interested to know if the little fucker did participate in matchfixing, and thus tainted the SC2 esport scene.

If he did, it's kind of outrageous. I mean Yoda and BbongBbong weren't absolutly dominant players, so yeah I could at least understand somehow that they might let themselves recieve money to throw games. But man, Life must have gathered so much cash from his performences, why screw up both his career and his legacy while things were still going nicely?


Yes, he did.


Life is most likely guilty, I wouldn't make posts advocating his innocence, but I wouldn't go around proclaiming his guilt with such arrogance either.


I'm not being arrogant. It's called being real. These things aren't happening because of a rumor as someone literally just proclaimed. That's my point. You still have loads of people saying things like that which given all we've heard is absurd.
NyxNax
Profile Joined March 2014
United States227 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-01 02:38:01
February 01 2016 02:31 GMT
#677
On February 01 2016 11:26 stuchiu wrote:
This was probably what Wolf meant.


I mustve missed it, did Wolf warn of some impending doom?
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
February 01 2016 02:35 GMT
#678
On February 01 2016 11:31 NyxNax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 11:26 stuchiu wrote:
This was probably what Wolf meant.


I mustve missed it, did Wolf warn of some impending doom?

When the Prime thing broke he did a Twitch session where he said that he'd heard names that would shock people
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
February 01 2016 02:48 GMT
#679
On February 01 2016 11:35 showstealer1829 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 11:31 NyxNax wrote:
On February 01 2016 11:26 stuchiu wrote:
This was probably what Wolf meant.


I mustve missed it, did Wolf warn of some impending doom?

When the Prime thing broke he did a Twitch session where he said that he'd heard names that would shock people


Yeah he said he saw a list or something of names that would be a really big deal.
DuB phool
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1003 Posts
February 01 2016 02:49 GMT
#680
NO.

NO.

Uggggghhhhhh...........
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