EPTLife arrested on match-fixing charges - Page 30
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On February 14 2016 08:59 Seeker wrote: Starting from this page on, I will be moderating more harshly toward any mention of MarineKing's name. This thread has NOTHING to do with MarineKing. Do not talk about MarineKing even if you are defending him. Just don't do it. Please no match-fixing accusations on MarineKing or any other player if it has not officially been confirmed. This goes for other players too. -The_Templar | ||
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
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Elentos
55555 Posts
On February 01 2016 05:58 Silvana wrote: I meant the hypothetical head man of KT. Replace with CEO or any other high figure from the company. I was hoping you would come up with a cool backstory, now I'm disappointed  | ||
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Silvana
3713 Posts
On February 01 2016 05:59 Elentos wrote: I was hoping you would come up with a cool backstory, now I'm disappointed See my edit. Is that cool enough? The more I try to explain, the more messy I get  | ||
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pure.Wasted
Canada4701 Posts
Maybe if this - or another blow just like it, further down the road - kills Korean SC2, then I'll be angry. What a shame. | ||
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Samba
Germany452 Posts
On February 01 2016 05:32 MaCRo.gg wrote: Most definitely. KT has been shaky recently, even getting an ex president getting arrested for embezzlement. In the other thread it was alrdy said, that the trade was initiated by Life himself and that neither KT nor Afreeca knew anything about this. But anyway, this is just really bad, i fear for a remake of the BW downfall... | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7031 Posts
On February 01 2016 05:37 RvB wrote: WHy? They made the money themselves. If you work as a minor you also get your wages personally. Not getting access to the funds until you're 18 (which most pro players are anyway) won't make them more financially responsible. I guess you could make the case that team houses should teach the players to be more responsible with money since they drop out of school so young. k, I'm sure it's a great idea to give kids access to 100k in prize money, nothing bad can ever happen. http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/01/lottery-winners-research/423543/ Winning prize money has both features of gambling and lotteries, gambling because players think it's repeatable and lotteries because of the high amount of money appearing from seemingly nowhere. Now, I'm not saying that if a pro-gamer dreams for years of winning money, tries his hardest, is a responsible person, gives it a lot of thought and planning etc. that things will necessarily go wrong. But if you find yourself at the age of 14 in a new game to have sudden and unexpected access to vast potential sums of prize money, don't you think that could have negative consequences? It can be too much responsibility and pressure. Would you have wanted a million dollars when you were 14 or would you rather have it in 10 installments of $100k starting from when you were 20? I would choose the latter now, but I don't know if I would have made the same decision when I was 14 myself. Maybe sometimes people have to be protected against themselves? | ||
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SharkStarcraft
Austria2242 Posts
On February 01 2016 05:29 Superbanana wrote: At first i thought it was all a lie, "those guys saying he match-fixed should get a Life" Then i got angry, i was hoping he would take a Life sentence for breaking the heart of the swarm. I hoped Life would find a way, maybe he was innocent all along or maybe he did it under a Life threat. After the confirmation i got sad, i felt like giving up on Life. Now everything is clear, there is no Life left on this game. So now i make jokes about it. i hate to break it to you but you're not funny | ||
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BeStFAN
483 Posts
On February 01 2016 05:44 TronJovolta wrote: I fucking hate how people just assume this is all what went down. This pitiful mentality of modern humans. So quick to just believe what the powers that be tell us and to witch hunt people, acting like they thoroughly understand a situation they don't know a jackfuck about. Think about it. For all we know, the dark underworld of organized crime over there could have gangsters threatening and forcing players to fix matches. They could have so much power that they even control part of Kespa or certain police. People with power and money have been running the show since day one folks. Wake the fuck up. There's always more at play than what we're told from the media and the government. Always question what you hear and ponder the alternative possibilities. Now is it likely? Maybe not. We don't fucking know. Anybody claiming to who isn't directly involved in the business or the case doesn't know, and even they can stand to lose or gain something, so you can never know what they say is the truth. Now, is it possible he did just match fix and that's it? Yes. We can't possibly know the truth. Even if they put convict him. Many innocent people have spent their lives indicted of something they didn't do. pitiful! | ||
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Arvendilin
Germany1878 Posts
On February 01 2016 06:26 SharkStarcraft wrote: i hate to break it to you but you're not funny Shhh everyone deals with the pain differently | ||
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bObA
France300 Posts
Life is such a great player... | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6248 Posts
On February 01 2016 06:22 Grumbels wrote: k, I'm sure it's a great idea to give kids access to 100k in prize money, nothing bad can ever happen. http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/01/lottery-winners-research/423543/ Winning prize money has both features of gambling and lotteries, gambling because players think it's repeatable and lotteries because of the high amount of money appearing from seemingly nowhere. Now, I'm not saying that if a pro-gamer dreams for years of winning money, tries his hardest, is a responsible person, gives it a lot of thought and planning etc. that things will necessarily go wrong. But if you find yourself at the age of 14 in a new game to have sudden and unexpected access to vast potential sums of prize money, don't you think that could have negative consequences? It can be too much responsibility and pressure. Would you have wanted a million dollars when you were 14 or would you rather have it in 10 installments of $100k starting from when you were 20? I would choose the latter now, but I don't know if I would have made the same decision when I was 14 myself. Maybe sometimes people have to be protected against themselves? Life was exceptionally young for winning this much money. Comparable to Flash I guess who won his OSL when he was 15. Most are already a bit older. The point I was trying to make is that withholding the cash for a few years isn't going to make them more responsible with it. Though educating them in the team house or something might. I agree that making a lot of cash at a young age has negative consequences for some. Just look at all the football players who spend money like crazy and often go personally bankrupt only a few years after retirement. And these guys make a lot more in a year than life did in his career until now. Again though I doubt witholding the cash or giving it in instalments is going to make them responsible with it. | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
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NinjaToss
Austria1383 Posts
Now that I calmed down, I can only prayed, and hope for the best, and wish that there aren't any more players involved in this incident. It's already bad enough as it is | ||
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NinjaToss
Austria1383 Posts
On February 01 2016 06:42 Iplaythings wrote: If it's true, KT got their first match fixer back in the time of BW, there was already a KT matchfixer :/ I think Life fixing would come from the time when he's in StarTale Or at least he isn't in KT now, so KT's name might be clean? | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
On February 01 2016 06:43 NinjaToss wrote: when I read this news in the morning, I broke out crying like a little kid, for the whole morning Now that I calmed down, I can only prayed, and hope for the best, and wish that there aren't any more players involved in this incident. It's already bad enough as it is wow damn | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On February 01 2016 06:44 NinjaToss wrote: back in the time of BW, there was already a KT matchfixer :/ I think Life fixing would come from the time when he's in StarTale Or at least he isn't in KT now, so KT's name might be clean? Oh right Fucking luxury. | ||
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Grizvok
United States711 Posts
On February 01 2016 05:44 TronJovolta wrote: I fucking hate how people just assume this is all what went down. This pitiful mentality of modern humans. So quick to just believe what the powers that be tell us and to witch hunt people, acting like they thoroughly understand a situation they don't know a jackfuck about. Think about it. For all we know, the dark underworld of organized crime over there could have gangsters threatening and forcing players to fix matches. They could have so much power that they even control part of Kespa or certain police. People with power and money have been running the show since day one folks. Wake the fuck up. There's always more at play than what we're told from the media and the government. Always question what you hear and ponder the alternative possibilities. Now is it likely? Maybe not. We don't fucking know. Anybody claiming to who isn't directly involved in the business or the case doesn't know, and even they can stand to lose or gain something, so you can never know what they say is the truth. Now, is it possible he did just match fix and that's it? Yes. We can't possibly know the truth. Even if they put convict him. Many innocent people have spent their lives indicted of something they didn't do. Sorry homie but the outrageous scenarios you just painted are far more outlandish than Life simply taking bribes to fix a match. Logic > storytelling | ||
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Akimbo
Canada104 Posts
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
On February 01 2016 06:51 Grizvok wrote: Sorry homie but the outrageous scenarios you just painted are far more outlandish than Life simply taking bribes to fix a match. Logic > storytelling But conspiracies are fun! | ||
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ivancype
Brazil485 Posts
On February 01 2016 05:44 TronJovolta wrote: I fucking hate how people just assume this is all what went down. This pitiful mentality of modern humans. So quick to just believe what the powers that be tell us and to witch hunt people, acting like they thoroughly understand a situation they don't know a jackfuck about. Think about it. For all we know, the dark underworld of organized crime over there could have gangsters threatening and forcing players to fix matches. They could have so much power that they even control part of Kespa or certain police. People with power and money have been running the show since day one folks. Wake the fuck up. There's always more at play than what we're told from the media and the government. Always question what you hear and ponder the alternative possibilities. Now is it likely? Maybe not. We don't fucking know. Anybody claiming to who isn't directly involved in the business or the case doesn't know, and even they can stand to lose or gain something, so you can never know what they say is the truth. Now, is it possible he did just match fix and that's it? Yes. We can't possibly know the truth. Even if they put convict him. Many innocent people have spent their lives indicted of something they didn't do. by modern humans you mean human for the past 10 thousand years right? | ||
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