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On February 14 2016 08:59 Seeker wrote:
Starting from this page on, I will be moderating more harshly toward any mention of MarineKing's name. This thread has NOTHING to do with MarineKing. Do not talk about MarineKing even if you are defending him. Just don't do it. Please no match-fixing accusations on MarineKing or any other player if it has not officially been confirmed. This goes for other players too. -The_Templar |
Fuck its amazing the extent of retardation; people whining about blizzard not making polished game. Cant make one fucking post about the ownership they should be taking to eliminate the potential Harassment players have endured because of this ring they're in. Blizzard if not having been aware should have had a relationship with KESPA to degree they would be informed of this kind of underlying issue outside in the real world.
KESPA should be held responsible for not providing an atmosphere for players to feel safe and secure. Police should have had more interaction with KESPA before with the SC:BW issue and even as of late policies for player security should have been in contest vs the current norm. Saying they Cant do this or that to provide secure environments, is nonsense. If it is true they cant, if KESPA wasnt reliable, maybe the Federation may have endured.
Im appauled people talking arent holding either of these 2 more resposible, we're talking about kids in contracts with large companies... Using the word Pro is a great fluff term for describing sitting at a computer with high focus, and executing actions at high speeds. The Professionals that run the companies that are employing sponsoring and exploiting these players, should have been in the know, and had some potential compassion for young-people being in a world as corrupt as we have seen of late. These are fucking kids. I feel for the parents.
The way this has been discussed, bunch more fluff.
not all, but too much that it's no wonder this game's going to shit. the average mentality of people is stifled from reality.
More people need to ladder less and read more.
exploiting kids has been a big issue for Companies like shoe makers and large retail stores... why are these companies not held to the same degree. People playing these games for a living under contract deserve some respect for wasting valuable time in a corrosive environment. Given a new environment where corrupt outsiders could not influence younger people to bend to their will, assuming such exists would players like Life, Yoda ect still be a hazard for corrupt behavior?
They can plead responsibility, but if KESPA/Blizzard cant afford assistance due to their negligence each, then who even regulates players in the future,
my thought is that if thugs think they can jack the system (exploit players) why cant blizzard and KESPA do the same and remain silent when they could very well take responsibility; because they're providing the conditions for this shit to happen..
Fucking gross
To each player who's guilty in this, all the best in the future, and peace. I Hope you can be absolved with compassion and fairness.
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This community isn't consistent in the slightest. Marineking who was investigated and found innocent is still derided as a match fixer. Yet here people are saying we shouldn't jump to conclusions. I agree we shouldn't jump to conclusions I just wish marinking got the same benefit.
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So I guess it would be considered a wonder at this point if they release him and say that they found nothing suspicious and it was just a misunderstanding... ? 
Don't even know what to say honestly. Life was my favorite player, ever since 2012.
I have this weird feeling of emptyness in me right now. Like when a close friend suddenly betrays you and you don't if you want to be angry or start crying.
Not sure I'll be able to follow SC2 after this. This might just have been the Coup de Grace to the korean sc2 scene.
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Bet innovation is laughing his ass off right now, life and him got some beef with each other :D
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On February 01 2016 07:08 royalroadweed wrote:
This community isn't consistent in the slightest. Marineking who was investigated and found innocent is still derided as a match fixer. Yet here people are saying we shouldn't jump to conclusions. I agree we shouldn't jump to conclusions I just wish marinking got the same benefit.
I think that's solely because of just how bad that one game of his looked. If Life had a game as dodgy looking as that I imagine everyone would be all over him.
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On February 01 2016 07:17 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2016 07:08 royalroadweed wrote:
This community isn't consistent in the slightest. Marineking who was investigated and found innocent is still derided as a match fixer. Yet here people are saying we shouldn't jump to conclusions. I agree we shouldn't jump to conclusions I just wish marinking got the same benefit. I think that's solely because of just how bad that one game of his looked. If Life had a game as dodgy looking as that I imagine everyone would be all over him.
Combined with the voided bet.
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This had better turn out to be nothing. Life is too much of a badass to matchfix...really? That's almost as bad as accusing Jaedong of matchfixing...ugh.
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On February 01 2016 07:22 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2016 07:17 Phredxor wrote:On February 01 2016 07:08 royalroadweed wrote:
This community isn't consistent in the slightest. Marineking who was investigated and found innocent is still derided as a match fixer. Yet here people are saying we shouldn't jump to conclusions. I agree we shouldn't jump to conclusions I just wish marinking got the same benefit. I think that's solely because of just how bad that one game of his looked. If Life had a game as dodgy looking as that I imagine everyone would be all over him. Combined with the voided bet.
Ah yes, that too!
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On February 01 2016 07:07 I wasbanned fromthis wrote:
Fuck its amazing the extent of retardation; people whining about blizzard not making polished game. Cant make one fucking post about the ownership they should be taking to eliminate the potential Harassment players have endured because of this ring they're in. Blizzard if not having been aware should have had a relationship with KESPA to degree they would be informed of this kind of underlying issue outside in the real world.
KESPA should be held responsible for not providing an atmosphere for players to feel safe and secure. Police should have had more interaction with KESPA before with the SC:BW issue and even as of late policies for player security should have been in contest vs the current norm. Saying they Cant do this or that to provide secure environments, is nonsense. If it is true they cant, if KESPA wasnt reliable, maybe the Federation may have endured.
Im appauled people talking arent holding either of these 2 more resposible, we're talking about kids in contracts with large companies... Using the word Pro is a great fluff term for describing sitting at a computer with high focus, and executing actions at high speeds. The Professionals that run the companies that are employing sponsoring and exploiting these players, should have been in the know, and had some potential compassion for young-people being in a world as corrupt as we have seen of late. These are fucking kids. I feel for the parents.
The way this has been discussed, bunch more fluff.
not all, but too much that it's no wonder this game's going to shit. the average mentality of people is stifled from reality.
More people need to ladder less and read more.
exploiting kids has been a big issue for Companies like shoe makers and large retail stores... why are these companies not held to the same degree. People playing these games for a living under contract deserve some respect for wasting valuable time in a corrosive environment. Given a new environment where corrupt outsiders could not influence younger people to bend to their will, assuming such exists would players like Life, Yoda ect still be a hazard for corrupt behavior?
They can plead responsibility, but if KESPA/Blizzard cant afford assistance due to their negligence each, then who even regulates players in the future,
my thought is that if thugs think they can jack the system (exploit players) why cant blizzard and KESPA do the same and remain silent when they could very well take responsibility; because they're providing the conditions for this shit to happen..
Fucking gross
To each player who's guilty in this, all the best in the future, and peace. I Hope you can be absolved with compassion and fairness.
What, exactly, would you have KESPA and/or Blizzard do?
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Life: "I am become sAviOr, destroyer of StarCrafts."
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Still waiting on Kespa to make good on their commitment to assume "guilty until proven innocent" and ban Life on the basis of him being charged.
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so much say Kespa did not their job but arent they doing it by charging prime and even stars like life
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OMG Poor Life. He would have been a really bright future. the Heck
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On February 01 2016 07:36 [OGN]Remmy wrote:
OMG Poor Life. He would have been a really bright future. the Heck
poor Life? wth
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How long does this shit normally take until we know if he's convicted or not?
I mean, he'd have to play his Code A match quite soon.
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On February 01 2016 06:43 NinjaToss wrote:
when I read this news in the morning, I broke out crying like a little kid, for the whole morning
Now that I calmed down, I can only prayed, and hope for the best, and wish that there aren't any more players involved in this incident. It's already bad enough as it is
/me huggles NinjaToss
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On February 01 2016 07:39 Swisslink wrote:
How long does this shit normally take until we know if he's convicted or not?
I mean, he'd have to play his Code A match quite soon.
I'm under the impression once the arrest has been made, it's pretty much "gg no re".
They'd face tremendous backlash by nonchalantly arresting progamers for match fixing. As others have mentioned, it ruins the person's career even when there is only speculations of match fixing (i.e. MKP).
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On February 01 2016 07:07 I wasbanned fromthis wrote:
Fuck its amazing ................
KESPA should .........................
Im appauled.....................
Fucking gross
To each player who's guilty in this, all the best in the future, and peace. I Hope you can be absolved with compassion and fairness.
geeez, do you want fries with that rant?
Opinions matter little at this point, what this situation needs is a legal frame work, that neither KESPA nor Blizzard can provide...obviously.
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On February 01 2016 07:39 Swisslink wrote:
How long does this shit normally take until we know if he's convicted or not?
I mean, he'd have to play his Code A match quite soon.
At this point I think it's pretty safe to say Bunny is going to advance via Forfeit, whether it's KeSPA enforced or not
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On February 01 2016 07:35 zakadar wrote:
so much say Kespa did not their job but arent they doing it by charging prime and even stars like life
It's not KeSPA's job to press charges, that's law enforcement's, but KeSPA is obligated to report suspected matchfixing to the authorities. I don't really get why so many people here are angry at KeSPA, I guess they're just looking for someone to blame other than Life and the faceless gamblers. I mean what is KeSPA supposed to do to prevent this kind of behavior? Hold Life's hand and monitor all of his computer activities 24/7?
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