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Moonsalt
Profile Joined May 2011
267 Posts
December 27 2015 20:55 GMT
#201
bw > sc2

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Feisty
Profile Joined December 2013
Vatican City State35 Posts
December 27 2015 20:57 GMT
#202
This is sad but not a suprise to see all these retirements. Terran feels terrible to play in lotv and its been obvious through most of the beta. The wcs system is bad for Koreans. At least we have more players like Lilbow who will be in the finals next year to show off the game while the most skilled players who make the game exciting to watch and inspire people to play are quitting.
Polt why so God
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2266 Posts
December 27 2015 21:05 GMT
#203
Guys, its not that surprising. Fantasy's SC2 play was nothing in comparison with his BW play. In BW he was absolutelly genious, and that was clear for anyone not blinded by his time-to-time slopy play. In SC2 his play was amusing, but his greatness hasnt really seen there. When in play against very best BW players I never felt he was completelly helpless against anyone (the player who was the closest to give me that impression was Soulkey, and still i think Fanta wasnt really that outclassed in most of his games against him). But in SC2 i had the impression he is tore apart so many times i cant even count.

GW, WP Fanta, wish you best of luck.
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WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3352 Posts
December 27 2015 21:06 GMT
#204
Noooo!
Thanks for all the great moments Fanta!
Good luck with whatever you do next!
Horang2 fan
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
December 27 2015 21:31 GMT
#205
I became a huge Fantasy fan almost from the moment he got a spot in the T1 line up for the first time. His fantastic micro made him such an entertaining player. His duells with Flash are the ones that stand out the most.

Goodbye Fantasy and thanks for everything!
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Dark_A
Profile Joined August 2015
Lithuania5 Posts
December 27 2015 21:32 GMT
#206
Fanta ? :DDD okey "Fanta" time to back home ... nice to see you btw !
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
December 27 2015 21:38 GMT
#207
I've been a BW fan for many years, but it's in bad taste to celebrate a player's retirement for the off chance that he comes to the Afreeca scene. Keep it on the BW forums at least.

The WCS changes probably did push Fantasy to retire, since he's one of the few non-Koreans competing in the foreign circuit that isn't good enough to consistently qualify for GSL/SSL. The increased prizepool for lower finishes in GSL/SSL hopefully will still make most Korean pros better off under the new system.
johax
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden165 Posts
December 27 2015 22:01 GMT
#208
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JabuSeika
Profile Joined February 2014
United States607 Posts
December 27 2015 22:02 GMT
#209
I called it when the new WCS was announced.

Rain, PartinG, and Fantasy would be the top 16 from last year that would be the most affected.

There's no more place for mid-tier koreans, without Kespa teams.

PartinG might be next, if he can't get into GSL or SSL. Then Hyun and all the rest that can't get visas to play the WCS circuit.
FromtheAbysS
Profile Joined August 2013
32 Posts
December 27 2015 22:02 GMT
#210
On December 28 2015 05:57 Feisty wrote:
Terran feels terrible to play in lotv and its been obvious through most of the beta. The wcs system is bad for Koreans.


I don't think he leaves because of your first sentence. This guy is so gifted about microing units, and LOTV is way more micro oriented than HOTS. As I read in a commentary "MediTank play" was made for him.

After, the new WCS system is death for so many pro Koreans. Koreans tournaments (GSL, SSL) will be ridiculously hard, and foreign tournaments will be reserved for foreign scene. To this point, not a surprise at all that some pro koreans players decide to retire.

ATM I am unable to hope some good things from the next SCII year
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 27 2015 22:04 GMT
#211
that's too bad. best of luck to him
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
December 27 2015 22:08 GMT
#212
When i saw his face in GTR's pictures of FlaSh ceremony that's what i thought.

Sad to see them all go. Stork is already gone in a way now that he is part coach. JD is doing nothing (i think). Hope they can offer us a little more games before they go too.
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Mistakes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1102 Posts
December 27 2015 22:14 GMT
#213
so sad
Merry f**king Christmas.
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bjornkavist
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1235 Posts
December 27 2015 22:18 GMT
#214
Sad to hear Gl Fantasy, I will always remember your OSL final against Stork, and Stork finally winning that sweet sweet gold
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corydoras
Profile Joined November 2013
161 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-27 22:20:54
December 27 2015 22:19 GMT
#215
On December 28 2015 05:57 Feisty wrote:
This is sad but not a suprise to see all these retirements. Terran feels terrible to play in lotv and its been obvious through most of the beta. The wcs system is bad for Koreans. At least we have more players like Lilbow who will be in the finals next year to show off the game while the most skilled players who make the game exciting to watch and inspire people to play are quitting.


The numbers don't support the theory that Terrans are likely to retire. Terrans and Protosses have been retiring in almost even numbers during the last couple of months. Some notable Terrans retired (Flash, MMA, Fantasy), but notable Protoss players did that too (Rain, MC).

WCS - yep, this could be a factor. Quite depends on what the Korean scene can offer this year besides GSL/SSL/SPL.
Adun toridas!
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-27 23:18:37
December 27 2015 22:22 GMT
#216
Best of luck to him. I was a big fan of him in BW and SC2.

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FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
December 27 2015 22:38 GMT
#217
On December 28 2015 07:19 corydoras wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 05:57 Feisty wrote:
This is sad but not a suprise to see all these retirements. Terran feels terrible to play in lotv and its been obvious through most of the beta. The wcs system is bad for Koreans. At least we have more players like Lilbow who will be in the finals next year to show off the game while the most skilled players who make the game exciting to watch and inspire people to play are quitting.


The numbers don't support the theory that Terrans are likely to retire. Terrans and Protosses have been retiring in almost even numbers during the last couple of months. Some notable Terrans retired (Flash, MMA, Fantasy), but notable Protoss players did that too (Rain, MC).

WCS - yep, this could be a factor. Quite depends on what the Korean scene can offer this year besides GSL/SSL/SPL.


Well, it supports it in the sense that the last high profile Zerg that retired was Revival. Cause if in regards to balance the Terran/Protoss retired, the Zerg would be less likely to retire. Though Terran seems to be doing decently well versus Zerg, so who knows? Also....is MC actually retired? At Homestory, they said he still plays a several hours a day.
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
December 27 2015 22:47 GMT
#218
On December 28 2015 03:42 FrkFrJss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 02:01 Rollora wrote:
On December 28 2015 00:13 Poopi wrote:
Why are they banned from Kespa?

On topic:
fuck why all terrans stopping just make some z/p retire (except Jaedong he is a legend so we need to keep him) already.
80% of GM EU terrans are in the 170-200 range, almost no terran left to look up to.


Skillwise there are enough left, but LOTV isn't balanced yet or the meta hasn't evolved enough. Therefore you can get cheesed down as terran, since terran play is much more preditable then for instance protoss play. It will take some time to figure the game out. Its like 2014 again, when no terran besides taeja and flash won premier tournaments and 90% of the wins were toss or zerg. This will be the case for the next 12-18 monts again, and then either the meta evolves finally or blizzard agrees that there have to be some changes.


Actually, in 2014 Terran won 12 premier tournaments and Protoss won 15. Terran had 13 second place finishers, and Protoss had 13 as well. Zerg won 8 with 9 second place finishers. So to say that 90% of the tournaments were won by the two other races is completely false because two races should win more than one race, and Terran won three less than Protoss.

I agree, i had the numbers wrong: I meant that most terrans dropped out prematurely (or whatever the term is) like we had 2-3x RO16 with 1-2 Terrans in GSL and other tourneys. That there still was a terran victory is basically even more proof how great these players (Taeja, Flash...) were
Feisty
Profile Joined December 2013
Vatican City State35 Posts
December 27 2015 22:50 GMT
#219
On December 28 2015 07:19 corydoras wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 05:57 Feisty wrote:
This is sad but not a suprise to see all these retirements. Terran feels terrible to play in lotv and its been obvious through most of the beta. The wcs system is bad for Koreans. At least we have more players like Lilbow who will be in the finals next year to show off the game while the most skilled players who make the game exciting to watch and inspire people to play are quitting.


The numbers don't support the theory that Terrans are likely to retire. Terrans and Protosses have been retiring in almost even numbers during the last couple of months. Some notable Terrans retired (Flash, MMA, Fantasy), but notable Protoss players did that too (Rain, MC).

WCS - yep, this could be a factor. Quite depends on what the Korean scene can offer this year besides GSL/SSL/SPL.

MC has been semi retired for a while now. Rain retired because of a unique situation with his father. MMA and Fantasy were pushed out because of the WCS changes. I think Flash retired because he's never liked SC2 as much as BW and he didn't like the direction that Blizzard took with Terran in SC2. Flash isn't that old, was on a Kespa team, and was still one of the better Terran's, so the timing of his retirement says to me that he didn't like the game very much.
Polt why so God
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
December 27 2015 22:50 GMT
#220
He may be gone, but his GG timing will live forever
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